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This book is a must have for doubting christians!,
This review is from: Biblical Nonsense: A Review of the Bible for Doubting Christians (Paperback)
After I had done much bible studying as a christian and became gradually overwhelmed by the lack of consistency, out of a desperate need for answers I decided to level the playing field and venture into the world of skeptical biblical scholarship including my study of the writings of former christians, ministers, and pastors who have left Christianity, including this book by Dr Long, Biblical Nonsense. I knew that if the bible is the remarkable document it is heralded to be, surely it can stand up to the most rigorous critical analysis. After pouring over thousands of pages of information from both sides of the issues including this book by Dr. Long, I have learned that the average skeptic has a much deeper and broader knowledge of the Bible than most average people who claim to be christians. An exhaustive reading of the comparative literature from both believers and former believers that is widely available in print and on the internet for all to see, proves this to be true. The real truth of the bible skeptic is that he is ultimately led by a search for the truth, not for the blatantly dishonest reasons parroted by the likes of JP Holding and other christian apologists. I have discovered for myself that Christian apologists will begin with the fundamentalist-driven conclusions or assertions (that the bible is inerrant, the bible is the spirit-written word of god, every word in the bible is true) and try to find any facts or evidence in support of these three assertions(and many others), conveniently ignoring strong and often irrefutable evidence that contradicts their haughty preconceptions. At the very least, this mannner of biblical analysis only seeks to support an intelectually dishonest and uncompromising foregone conclusion.
The hungry truth-seeker reads the bible from an objective, unbiased viewpoint, eventually discovering for himself what the text says, not what smooth talking evangelicals assert it says, thereby drawing his own conclusions and comparing them to a wide range of commentary and areas of well established facts. Considering the many different denominations in the apologetic business that quibble over what they think the bible says and means, this is a very wise approach to bible reading.
Virtually all of Dr. Long's many points raised as to the demonstrable fallibility of the bible just simply cannot be honestly, successfully refuted. The arrogant, highly disrespectful leaders of the modern apologetic movement such as Jason Gastrich and James Patrick Holding(Robert Turkel) can only resort to evasion, circular reasoning, endless question begging, endless how-it-could-have-been scenarios filled with nothing but conjecture, flawed and even intentionally deceptive biblical interpretation, outright dishonesty, and even rank personal insults when attempting to smear any scholars with opposing viewpoints like Dr. Long in their increasingly futile attempts to keep afloat the thoroughly debunked myth of biblical inerrancy. This book is an absolutely must read for any struggling christian not able to believe in the dogma of fundamentalist christianity.
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Initial post: Jun 22, 2007 12:09:18 PM PDT
D. Rose says:
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 20, 2007 1:58:22 AM PDT
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Jeremy M. Galjour says:
Did you make it your business to take pot-shots at any reviewer of this book who said something you didn't like? This comment in particular is devoid of worth on any conceivable level. I would venture to guess that you felt particularly disturbed over this review, and in the absence of having anything substantial to say, resorted to a cheap attack. I'm sure that God is proud of all the work you do to clear His good name.
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 1, 2008 10:07:54 AM PST
>>>Virtually all of Dr. Long's many points raised as to the demonstrable fallibility of the bible just simply cannot be honestly, successfully refuted.
It would be very helpful if just ONE positive reviewer was able to share just a couple of the "many pointes raised".
But since not a SINGLE positive reviewer has mentioned one of these points what is a honest individual to conclude?
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 31, 2008 7:42:28 PM PDT
Paul Beaird says:
The thing to conclude is: if the subject interests you, read the book!
Posted on Aug 15, 2010 4:45:15 PM PDT
I haven't read the book, so all I have are the reviews as Amazon's not giving this one a 'look inside'.
My main interest in books like this is, is it based on archeological evidence (or lack thereof) of 'historical biblical events' and does the book look at the contradictory claims of authorship of books in the bible, when they were published as well as why certain books were included in the canon & others left out (Elaine Pagels does a good job of this, though limited in scope, in her book "The Gnostic Gospels").
Mainly what I'm looking for is scientific & archeological refutation of biblical claims (historical events, authorship, relationship to other cultural myths, etc.) Would you say the book addresses these issues or is it more of a social commentary? Thanks!
In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 7:44:52 AM PDT
The human faces of god goes over the archaeological claims briefly for the book of Joshua. The Mythic Past: Biblical Archaeology and the Myth of Israel as well as Kenneth Feder's book on Frauds in archaeology which goes over bogus young earth creationist material.
Posted on Oct 11, 2011 1:18:40 PM PDT
Wendy Mahon says:
I will have to read this book. I haven't read it yet, but I have been questioning my Christian faith, and some of the objective claims you been mentioning. I have trouble when life contradicts the objective claims in Christianity, and the two don't match up. Also because of that I am vague to how Christianity applies to real life, and why real life and Christianity do not match up, or what you are suppose to even do in real life.
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 7, 2012 3:19:45 AM PST
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Wendy your comment applies to my life. I was a fundamentalist christian for 9 years and am now barely hanging on by a thread. Life contradicting the objective claims of christianity goes beyond any evidence that could be shown on either side. Finding what to live for in the post christian life is difficult and is a constant battle in the mind. The only thing I can advise is to seek truth in spite of where it leads. Even God is subject to the truth.
Posted on Jun 27, 2012 6:48:09 AM PDT
This book looks interesting. It probably would have been helpful when I went through my deconversion process. Of course, I just went ahead and read the bible and was flabbergasted. As I write in my book, the bible itself is the primary cause of me becoming an atheist. As soon as I finish the books I'm reading, I'm going to read this one.
In reply to an earlier post on Nov 1, 2012 3:32:40 PM PDT
Read the damn book and find out for yourself!