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Excellent software - Pretty good upgrade,
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This review is from: Adobe Photoshop Elements 12 (DVD-ROM)
We've been using Photoshop Elements for years, and just upgraded from version 11 to version 12 a few days ago.
After the big changes in version 11, I wasn't expecting much in 12 - and I had to dig a bit to find anything that had changed at all. Because of that, I suspect most people will probably be perfectly happy sticking with version 11 - but here are the features that may tempt you to upgrade:
1) RAW file support. For those who are using RAW files, this will finally make Elements usable - and would justify as an excellent reason to upgrade. I suspect the vast majority of Elements users won't care about this; but, it is there.
[** UPDATE 10/10/13 **] Apparently it was possible to edit RAW files with a plug-in in the previous versions of Elements, but I wasn't aware of that. I will say that the RAW file support is obvious & easy to access without a plug-in in the new version. ;)
2) The content-aware move tool is excellent! The quick selection tool also seems to be improved - which makes the content-aware move tool even better.
Basically, you just select a section of your picture and can move it around using this tool - and Elements will take care of fixing up the background. This is a huge time-saver for removing unwanted elements from a photo, and I've found it to be easy and effective.
3) New effects tab when in Quick-Edit mode. This is OK; but, I guess I'm just not a huge effects user in most cases - and I tend to work in expert mode anyway just because that's what I'm used to.
Aside from those features, I wasn't able to dig up much else. I needed a new license anyway (which is why I bought this version); but, we'll be perfectly happy letting versions 11 & 12 co-exist on our PCs just because they are so similar.
I will say that we've messed with several photo editing programs over the years, and I think Elements is the absolute best for an average home user. It's extremely easy to use and has all the functions a typical user would need to accomplish just about anything.
Overall, I would base my recommendation on what you're currently using:
- If you don't have any photo editing software, or are using something else, I would highly recommend Photoshop Elements!
- If you are an existing Elements user who has been waiting for RAW support (I can't imagine there are more than a handful in this category), then you've probably already upgraded. :)
- If you're an existing Elements user who is just wondering if the upgrade is worth it, I'd probably recommend taking a pass unless you just want the newest version. If you do decide to upgrade, be sure to play around with the content-aware move tool!
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Initial post: Oct 7, 2013 2:23:08 AM PDT
I thought version 11 had raw editing? I've seen tutorials on it on YouTube.
In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2013 5:59:59 AM PDT
NW Minnesota Dad says:
I use Elements 10, and it indeed has Camera RAW support. I don't know if I'll ever upgrade from 10. Adobe obviously is holding back all it has and piecemeal releasing bit by bit every flippin' year or other year at a premium cost. Totally worthless to upgrade since 10, and I found the demo of 11 I downloaded was less intuitive to use than 10 with only a half dozen so-called "improvements." Maybe I'll upgrade when it reaches Elements 20 or 25. I'm just amazed people keep plunking down hard-earned cash to have "the latest." I've got Lightroom 4 too, and the "changes" in version 5 are negligible at best and again totally not worth upgrading to. It's like Adobe stole a page out of Microsoft's playbook (planned obsolescence) to maximize profit and minimize customer satisfaction. So in a nutshell, folks, stick with Element 10! Heck, even Elements 7 does the vast majority of what 10 does.
Posted on Oct 9, 2013 6:04:57 AM PDT
NW Minnesota Dad says:
"Pretty good upgrade??" You haven't told us why it's worth a five-star rating and the characterization of "pretty good." I've been using Elements 10 now for the past two years, and it does at least 99 percent of what 12 does. Why would anyone want to spend the full cost of $90 to upgrade what doesn't need upgrading? Money would be far better spent on taking better photos to begin with (without annoying backgrounds, inappropriately spaced subjects, etc.). In short, people need to pay money to learn how to be better photographers, not subsidized the yacht maintenance funds of Adobe execs. It's planned obsolescence at its finest, and whoever upvoted this review is buying into it hook, line, and sinker. Stick with Elements 9 or 10 and tell Adobe to make some "real" changes to their software for a change. That or switch to something free like Gimp.
Posted on Oct 9, 2013 8:31:05 AM PDT
Elements 9 supports RAW files. Just get the plug in/fix.
In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2013 10:47:14 AM PDT
Yeah, but it's not possible to get Latest NIKON RAW ( NEF )update, and install into PSE9.
No Can Do. But raw manipulation is nowhere near the incredible capability of Lightroom 4 or 5. Which I probably will be switching to asap.
Just check out some of the videos on YouTube, how LR can manipulate RAW files! WOW!
In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2013 11:18:15 AM PDT
Sorry. I should have stated I use Canon equipment and PS Elements 9 can convert Canon RAW.
I shouldn't have painted with such a wide brush.
Any chance you could post a link to the LR files on YouTube? Not a big YouTube user so not sure how to search for them.
In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2013 12:04:00 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 9, 2013 12:07:14 PM PDT
This is all new to me. I'm just discovering what works with my new Nikon D5200. Following the paths I'm lead onto. LOL!
This video is long, but it will amaze you if you are a photographer. Set some time aside, you probably will have an "Ah, ha" moment. This is just RAW only. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGREWqMSUJ
Also Flickr is a good site to visit. It has every camera, and what people from all over the world are producing with it, combined with every lens possible! Cool stuff!
Let me know what you think, ok?
In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2013 12:17:10 PM PDT
Thanks! I'll check into it.
Posted on Oct 10, 2013 3:23:46 AM PDT
I believe I have Elements 10 on my other computer. I use it to edit photos, such as red eye and cleaning up adorable little kid faces, and pet fur off the sofa and such in family pictures. I also use element though a lot to add text to photos and make things like Banners on web pages. I am guessing I could still do all those things with Elements 12. However I heard Lightroom was better so silly me got the newest Lightroom and I am lost. Can I use Lightroom to add text to photos and make Banners and such too or should I just get Elements 12 for this computer and go back to what I mostly know? You seem like you know a lot about these products so I thought I would ask you!
In reply to an earlier post on Oct 10, 2013 4:41:04 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 10, 2013 4:47:11 AM PDT
No, lightroom is for photographs. Photoshop and Elements are for manipulating photographs. i.e. switching heads, adding a tree, making a advertisement with extra graphics and text etc. Photoshop was in existence before digital cameras. All the tricks/tools in the book, are contained in Photoshop. Elements is a stripped down version.
Now Lightroom was created for photographers, to help create photographs. Keep the clouds white, while darkening the blues sky, and balancing it with the scenery. Or working on a models face, sharpening eyes and hair while softening complexion. etc. It enhances your digital camera's abilities.
Well, kinda, sorta, quasi, pseudo, semi, maybe, perhaps... Heck, it's all a crap shoot anyway.