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This review is from: Panasonic HDC-SD60K SD Based Hi-Def Camcorder with 35X Intelligent Zoom (Black) (Electronics)
I first purchased the Sony HDR-CX110, in the same price/feature class as this Panasonic. If you are considering each camera, here's what I can tell you. Be forewarned that I have only had today to play with the Panasonic, and I have only used each model in Automatic mode. I will post updates if I discover anything significant:SONY HDR-CX110: Wins: +Size - the Sony is much smaller, easily fitting into my cargo/tactical pants pockets; +Image quality - the Sony has much better [on fully auto mode] color and contrast; +Both an HD and an SD camcorder - Can make AVCHD or MPG, in-camera!; +10mm Threaded Filter compatible - The Sony has a manual lens cap, and a filter thread on the outside of this. While you won't be able to protect your filter with the cap, you can at least keep your lens protected; +Manual Lens Cap - User preference, but I like having fewer "automatic" moving parts to break-down. Looses: -Image Stabilization - not strong enough for my hand held video needs - I believe the IS on this model is digital only - you can spend a couple hundred $ more for the CX300, which has Optical IS, you might find better IS [out of my price range]; -Artifacts - I noticed several blocks in my video test. I don't know if this was from the digital image stabilization trying to figure out how to handle lake water on a windy day, or something else. I did not notice this in the Panasonic, but have only done limited testing. Panasonic HDC-SD60: Wins: +Lighting - Panasonic SD60 has built-in video light and still flash - these will probably be of limited use, in only close quarters, but there if you need it. In preliminary testing, these both worked fairly well; +Image Stabilization in this model is optical, and includes two modes - regular, for simple hand-held video, and "active" for filming while moving. Both worked well, much better than the Sony, but will not completely eliminate camera shake. Looses: -Size - While still quite small, this camera is large when compared to the Sony [longer and heavier]. I probably won't be carrying it in my cargo/tactical pants; -Automatic Scene Mode - It takes much too long for the camera to adjust to lighting conditions, and it cannot seem to find the right color temperature for indoor lighting - I have not played with manual mode, yet, but many reviewers write that the manual mode is much better; -No SD mode - only writes AVCHD files; -Automatic Lens Cap - User preference, but this seems to be another piece to breakdown; -No Filter Threads - Can this really cost much to implement? I can't install a polarizer, UV or any other filter to enhance my video or to protect the lens. Conclusion: I tried the Sony first, because of the ability to change it from an HD to an SD camcorder at the push of a button - Writing either AVCHD, or Standard-Def .MPG files, when appropriate. After I discovered that the Sony IS was limited in its ability, I returned the Sony for the Panasonic. The Panasonic's IS is much better, but the Sony does seem to have much better image quality [Automatic modes tested, only!]. Overall, I'd choose the Sony, but only if using a tripod most of the time. I'll keep the Panasonic for hand-held videoing. Comments
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Oct 21, 2010 3:43:17 PM PDT
Jason Karuza says:
Is there any sort of loss of recording time associated with the 4GB file-size limit of FAT32? I have read that the Sanyo VPC-FH1, for example, requires between 5 and 10 seconds to save the first file and start recording to a second file when the 4GB limit is reached. During that time period, footage is actually lost, so there will be a gap every 22 minutes or so when filming in 1080p for 5 to 10 seconds where nothing is recorded. Is this issue present for the Panasonic SD60?
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Oct 23, 2010 1:26:02 PM PDT
S. Epstein says:
Jason,
That sounds like a great question, but I am clueless on this. Please let us know if you get a good answer - this sounds like quite a limitation.
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Dec 11, 2010 5:16:04 PM PST
Anthony Ambrose Bullard says:
Can the Panasonic shoot in 720p also?
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Dec 12, 2010 10:33:01 AM PST
S. Epstein says:
Per the Panasonic website, these are the recording modes available:
Recording Mode HA (17Mbps/VBR) (1920 x 1080), HG (13Mbps/VBR) (1920 x 1080), HX (9Mbps/VBR) 1920 x 1080), HE (5Mbps/VBR) (1440 x 1080)
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Jan 28, 2011 12:25:35 PM PST
C. Miller says:
Great review! I've narrowed my search down to the Panasonic SD60 and the Sony CX110, so your comparison was tremendously helpful. Thank you! I think I'll probably go with the Sony and take my chances with the IS issues.
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Jan 28, 2011 1:00:33 PM PST
S. Epstein says:
Good luck with your purchase. I have found that I just don't edit anything in HD. I shoot HD, convert to SD and edit. I have the HD video for "the future", when mankind discovers a way to edit it, on a PC!
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Jan 29, 2011 6:13:35 AM PST
S. Epstein says:
Updated 01/29/2011 - Regarding the Manual color temp settings - this is very easy to set, with a dedicated button, and works much better than the automatic setting. Very happy with the color results when using manual.
As I responded to a question, below, I don't even try to edit HD video, any more. This camera has an SD conversion utility to convert the HD video in the camera to SD before transferring to the computer. This is time consuming, but much less frustrating than trying to manipulate AVCHD files. I am keeping significant HD files for someday, when mankind discovers a was to edit these on a PC ;) I am also beginning to wonder, recently, why one needs a dedicated video camera. If you don't need a dedicated Video cam, consider a good still camera with video. The new Canon G12, I understand, can now zoom during filming. I have an older version and love it, but no zoom.
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Mar 2, 2011 5:12:28 AM PST
GKCMilner says:
Thanks for the review. Does it rate only 3 stars because of the white balance? Do you think it's worth it to spend more on a camera with a better WB? Thanks.
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Mar 2, 2011 5:10:00 PM PST
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S. Epstein says:
GKC -
As I originally posted, the following concerns were factors in the three star rating: Looses: -Size - While still quite small, this camera is large when compared to the Sony [longer and heavier]. I probably won't be carrying it in my cargo/tactical pants; -Automatic Scene Mode - It takes much too long for the camera to adjust to lighting conditions, and it cannot seem to find the right color temperature for indoor lighting - I have not played with manual mode, yet, but many reviewers write that the manual mode is much better; [Update - I have used the Manual color temp mode, and it works very well - it is just an extra step that would be nice not to need, but not too much trouble to use.] -No SD mode - only writes AVCHD files; -Automatic Lens Cap - User preference, but this seems to be another piece to breakdown; -No Filter Threads - Can this really cost much to implement? I can't install a polarizer, UV or any other filter to enhance my video or to protect the lens. These issues may not be significant to your use. If you will be using a tripod, I would go for the Sony. If not... the Panasonic. Remember, however, it has been several months since my review, and who knows what the market holds, today. Also, as I mentioned, I don't know if I really need a dedicated video camera, anymore. You might consider using the money toward the Canon G12 - an awesome still camera with nice HD video capabilities. Either way, video cameras are pretty inexpensive [compared to 10-years ago], and any one of them is amazing compared to what we were once using. For a low-end purchase, the Panny is a good deal. Good luck!
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Mar 3, 2011 7:59:57 AM PST
GKCMilner says:
So you bought it knowing it was a 3-star camera in your eyes (except for the white balance). I thought there might be other issues that weren't in the camera specifications I should be concerned about. Thanks.
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