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Indiscrepancies in zoom lens is reason why it works or it doesnt,
This review is from: Zoom for Kinect - Xbox 360 (Accessory)
There is a definite lack of quality control on the part of Nyco which explains why some say the zoom works whilst others say its absolute rubbish.
I tested this out for myself (coincidentally) and came to this realisation.
I tried 1 Nyco zoom and found it great! It worked fine in 8 games I tested. Calibration and setup worked fine. The kinect unit could see me fine and could track my head, arms, hands, torso and feet just fine. I was quite impressed and couldnt understand why people would say it didnt work. Only issue I had found was that you had to slow down your gestures in XBOX dashboard as movements would be amplified. Quite straightforward to understand as it is a wide angle lens and would have the fish eye effect.
I then noticed a tiny little speck behind the camera lens that was encapsulated and no way to get to it. So being picky I took it back to the store lol and got a replacement.
Guess what? The brand new replacement is complete rubbish!!!!!
Kinect's view (as seen in tracking screen via setup) was different from the lens before. It had a less expanded view, more dark spots and quite clearly could not track me very well.
When trying to setup the unit kinect could not see the floor (a problem it does not have on its own nor with the previous zoom lens).
When trying to use in dashboard it was virtually useless and quite random.
Gameplay was obviously affected by lack of accuracy, kinect losing track of me and inability to interact with components properly.
It was only then that I understood why people could say its rubbish and waste of money.
Clearly if I had only tried the 2nd unit I would have had the same opinion or alternatively if I had only tried the first unit I would have been happy. But Having tried BOTH units I can see for myself the massive difference between the 2 and why some may hate it and think its rubbish whilst some may like it.
It is because there is an obvious lack of quality control on the part of nyco and hence not all zooms are equal. You may get one that works quite well or you may get a complete dud.
What Nyco should do is change the lens to proper glass optical lenses (to reduce the massive distortion and degradation caused by the cheap plastic ones) and improve its quality control measures thereby producing a product that actually works quite well and does so consistently. Ofcourse it may then want to charge slightly more(mainly because of glass optical lens) but Im sure most would be happy to pay that extra bit more for a product that actually works and works quite well.
I hope this helps explain it all and I really hope nyco pays attention as in the long run it is to its benefit to actually produce a product that works well and that people would actually buy and spread the good word about.
UPDATE: I went out and replaced the 2nd zoom lens with another one. ie a 3rd one.
Nyko 1000% is not controlling the end quality of this product.
This 3rd lens has blotches on the reflective coating on one of the lenses and has a smaller (than 1st zoom) spec behind the lens.
This however did work and games were again playable and dashboard was useable. Kinect could see the floor and able to track movements etc.
Exact same conditions including clothing, lighting, setup, calibration etc was used to keep the it fair and equal and thereby only 1 variable the zoom itself.
Nyko needs to get its act together!
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Initial post: Jan 29, 2012 12:18:57 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 29, 2012 12:19:24 AM PST
Jennifer Gibson says:
This is a fascinating theory, and I think it's probably spot on. Anyone who knows anything about optics knows that plastic lenses are notoriously inconsistent, even if they come from the same machine. Everything I know about optics comes from telescopes, and even a tiny defect in a lens can make a big difference in the image it projects. I agree with you that an improvement in the product to include real glass optics would definitely be worth a modest increase in price.
Thanks for such an even-handed and thorough review! Hopefully, TPTB at Nyko will see this and re-evaluate their product.
Posted on Nov 25, 2012 7:31:08 PM PST
Just wondering where your sensor was placed, above or bellow tv?
Posted on Dec 18, 2012 9:36:07 PM PST
David Miller says:
This may sound dumb but did you try to take the lens off and put it back on a few times and did you clean your sensor for dust? Out of the three friends I've had complain about this zoom unit making gameplay, 'unbearable', all three of them had either mounted the zoom over half the sensor lens or had not cleaned the dust off of it. The latter being insanely important if your kinect, previously did as mine, and sat there for months without being used other than for Voice netflix.
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 14, 2013 5:01:59 PM PST
Rocklin Doc says:
If the Kinect uses infrared wavelengths of light there can be a problem with their ability to pass through glass. That may be the reason behind the use of plastic. :)
I am not excusing the fact that their company should have better QC though!
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