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This review is from: Spider-Man: The High Definition Trilogy (Spider-Man / Spider-Man 2 / Spider-Man 3) [Blu-ray] (Blu-ray)...since the movies in the trilogy deserve their own reviews and have been done to death already. The low cost (even lower by $10 since I bought it) is what motivated me to buy this blu-ray disc set. I already have the special editions of all three Spiderman movies on DVD, so I wanted to see what blu-ray would bring to the home theater table, having recently bought a PS3. True, the picture quality is awesome and the audio certainly will blow you away. However, there are hardly any special features - only the third disc has any to speak of. This is an underwhelming effort, considering the massive amount of space availalble on blu-ray discs. Compare, for example, the featurettes and even mini-movies on "I Am Legend".
One thing I discovered about audio selection: if you choose PCM and your receiver is not capable of processing uncompressed signals (my Onkyo only does HDMI pass-through), all you'll get is simulated surround (e.g. Dolby ProLogic). So I ended up with 5.1 and although it may not be true HD, it's good enough for my 7.1 setup. But if you're an audiophile you would have known about this already.
My summary - HD picture quality: a strong 4 stars, audio quality and options: 4 stars, special features: a dismal 1 star - hence the overall 3 star rating. I guess for the price, this set is not too bad, but considering the wealth of possibilities for the Spiderman franchise, it fell short of my expectations.
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Initial post: Jun 11, 2008 11:44:01 PM PDT
T. Pavey says:
That's quite how the audio stuff works. I want to clear something up for some others who may be reading this.
The reason you use PCM output is because both Bluray and HD-DVD mix extra audio tracks on top of the nomal track for special features, comentary, menu sounds, etc... so if you set your player to output PCM then yes, you will see the wonderful DTS or DolbyDigital icons on your reciever. The ProLogic display is likely because you have some DSP effect turned on in your AVR. If you make your receiver do straigh sound without processing that ProLogic icon will go away.
There is nothing magical though. Your player can decode just as well as your receiver. You may have a setting in your player to down mix the sound to stero or something odd, again, this is not the receiver's fault. If you receiver can do 5.1 sound, it can handle 5.1 PCM. You player just isn't outputing it properly.
If you are talking picking the PCM setting on the actual movie.. then yeah, that may be in stereo. To properly set up your system your Blu-ray player should be set to output PCM across the HDMI and then you pick the best audio track on the movie itself.
Posted on Jul 2, 2008 9:45:57 PM PDT
David T. Catmull says:
I got the set a while ago, and just recently got around to watching Spider-Man 2.1; I hadn't seen the additional scenes before. That was all good and interesting, but I was surprised and disappointed that none of the DVD features were present. They don't even make it easy to find the scenes that are new in 2.1. If Spider-Man 2 were available as a separate Blu-ray, with all the extras, I'd be tempted to buy it and give this one to someone who just wants the movie.
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2008 3:29:05 PM PST
Peter A. Mrozik says:
I don't think this is quite right. On my PS3 / Onkyo system, I have to have the PS3 set to output Audio via PCM. The Onkyo then plays the multi-channel decoded audio using the "mutichannel" option. The PS3 does NOT have the ability to send the Lossless signals (True-HD, etc) in Bitstream format which is what would turn the TrueHD and other icons on the receiver on. I believe that functionally, there is no difference between having the Player do the decoding versus having the receiver do it. Either way, the difference provided with lossless audio should blow you away.
Posted on May 24, 2009 6:37:18 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 29, 2009 12:57:57 PM PST
Razr Maxx says:
I would alsso add that if your player, in this case a PS3, can do multi-channel analog out, hooking up 3 or 4 regular red/white audio cables to your multi-channel analog inputs on your receiver, your receiver will output any kind of uncompressed audio signal the movie in encoded in, beit PCM, DolbyTrue HD or DTS-MA, (with the latter being if your player decodes those HD tracks). My current receiver, a 4-5 year old model that only has DTS decoding. I can get DTS-MA out of it via the multi-channel analog inputs, as my Oppo BD-83 internally decodes all known audio tracks.
Posted on Jan 13, 2010 10:12:31 AM PST
Andrew H. Mcdonald says:
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 12, 2010 8:42:52 AM PST
Razr Maxx says:
That's only the case with 25 GB discs. With 50 GB discs, they can include not only the movie, but extras as well. But of course, a lot of the times, with older catalog titles, the extras are the old SD ports from the DVd editions. But still, 50 GB discs can and do support 2 hour films along with HD extras, including U-Control and Maximum Movie Mode.
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 21, 2010 1:12:58 PM PDT
M. Rodriguez says:
This is the dumbest thing I heard. Blu-ray does not do PCM because they mix extra tracks on top of the normal track. There is a difference in these tracks. PCM is uncompressed audio. PCM is as different as Dolby Digital is to HD-Master. If you see ProLogic, it's because your receiver is not outputting HD audio. I have a Denon receiver and It is set to automatic, so it puts out the correct audio all the time. There is a huge difference in sound from the non HD sound and the HD sound. If your receiver is showing ProLogic, you are not outputting HD.
Posted on Nov 11, 2010 6:08:16 PM PST
I appreciate the review because we are trying to figure out which format to get. Sounds like Blu Ray in this case is actually better. Thanks.
Posted on Jul 12, 2011 4:46:18 PM PDT
M. Chung says:
I dont know what version of PS3 you have, since the post is back in 2008, but PS3 now is able to decode Dolby TrueHD. If you hook up PS3 to Onkyo receiver via HDMI cable ( I assume 1.3b since that should be what everyone has), then your PS3 (set to auto mode) should decode the DB TrueHD audio and send out 5.1 PCM loseless signal. On your receiver end, you would only see PCM 5.1 (use multi-channel, not anything else) without any TrueHD or Dolby or whatsoever lit on because the audio signal is already decoded! Now, if you really want to see those fancy icons, configure your PS3 to not decode the audio. You should able to see those icons on your receiver. IMO, there is no difference between decoding on PS3 and receiver.