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Walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, it's a duck.,
This review is from: Not Your Kind Of People [Deluxe] (Audio CD)
First of all, I think this is an excellent album, overall. An excellent Garbage album, that is. Yes, there are some things which I would have done differently, had I produced it. And, sure, there are some things which don't grab my attention and make me respond with unbridled joy.
For example, `Auto Sys Habit' is a bit too poppy, for me. `Blood For Poppies', after that nice guitar line, goes into this major key chorus. For me, that sounds awkward. But I love the broken up middle. See? Nobody likes everything.
But the criticisms I read here, and elsewhere, are the very points I use to recommend the album.
1. "Shirley using too many vocal takes, too much signal processing". I say, that's Shirley, and she has always used signal processors on her voice; she has always overlaid vocal tracks. This is Garbage and Shirley Manson, not Sarah Brightman.
2. "The album is over-produced". I say a big production is the signature of a Garbage album. The production of a Garbage record is always complex and the sound is huge. Always.
3. "Derivative." "Cliched". "No risk". "Comfort zone". I say, this is Garbage, NOT Kaiser Chiefs or Pink Floyd or Pixies or whomever. This is Garbage. This is a rock band. And, by the way, Shirley is 45, not 23; Duke Erickson is now 61; come on. They are doing what Garbage does. After a 7 year pause, they have done it very well.
4. "Stuck in the 90s". "Never outgrew angst". "Dated". I say, It's a Garbage album, for crying out loud!!! What do you expect? Who can imagine Shirley singing a song sounding like Diana Krall or Joss Stone? Angst is in her blood.
5. The tunes are `unimaginative', `tired', `lame'. I say, This is ridiculous. There is so much going on in these tunes (evil big production, remember) that one must listen to the thing a few times to catch it all. It is lush, it is noisy; it's melodic and grating and clashing; it is packed with sounds and ambient stuff; it's typically Garbage-style dark and melancholy and edgy (most of the time). And often it rocks like anything they ever did.
So if you like Garbage, you'll like this new record. If you're seeking some incarnation of a Garbage that has changed into something besides Garbage, then you're out of luck.
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Initial post: Jun 2, 2012 10:07:05 AM PDT
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 7:36:43 PM PDT
Ha. Of course it's a response to other reviews! Including your pointy-headed execrable nitpicking over comparisons of apples and plums and pears. But don't be mad . . .
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 4:06:47 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 3, 2012 4:10:00 AM PDT
Posted on Jun 28, 2012 6:46:33 PM PDT
T. Fortune says:
I agree with you 100%.
I think that the underlying sound is definitely Garbage's style & yet the music is fresh. I love how they use electronics to their advantage- they totally rock!
<3 Shirley & Garbage!
Posted on Jul 7, 2012 9:02:19 PM PDT
John Salerno says:
I have to say, while I love when bands take new directions and experiment with their sound, my heart always sinks a little when I read a review that describes a band's new album as something very different than what I like about them, and admonishes everyone for wanting the band to keep "putting out the same album" every time.
So I was excited when you said that this album is what Garbage has always been! Sure, if they went in a new direction, I'd respect that and give it a listen, but to know this is similar to their first couple of albums is pretty nice, too. :)
Posted on Jul 25, 2012 9:24:23 AM PDT
C. Gerace says:
Now people are reviewing reviews. This review is 100% spot on. The new Garbage CD is awesome to Garbage fans. This reviewer does rebut other reviewer comments, which highlights what Frank Zappa said; "Music critics are the worst kind of sleaze!" I agree, as most do not have any music talent of their own. As a music reviewer, I try to find the good in everything published. Music is so personal and unique, it's like saying one person's fingerprints aren't as good as another's. Or worse! Your fingerprints used to be great but now they suck. The cliched critiques mentioned by this reviewer just reveal people's "blowing hard" like they have some entitlement to decide which music is good and "not up to par." In the end, none of us have the right to condemn anyone's music as it is a unique creation.
Two people view a painting in an art gallery. One person loves it, the other hates it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, not "entitled" to condemn the artist, or the painting lover. Jog on!
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 25, 2012 3:00:53 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 25, 2012 3:01:18 PM PDT
John Salerno says:
"In the end, none of us have the right to condemn anyone's music as it is a unique creation."
Actually, every one of us has the right to condemn anything we want, including music. Sure, one person may love a particular album and another person may hate it, but as long as they both can provide valid reasons for their opinions, who are you to say that all music should be appreciated or only found to be good? Or I suppose, if you think people dislike something, they should just keep it to themselves and not speak up?
The point of these reviews is to provide individual opinions, hopefully with reasons that other people find useful -- not just to hand-hold the artist and tell them they were great for even trying.
Posted on Jul 26, 2012 4:29:20 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 26, 2012 4:30:45 AM PDT
Posted on Jul 26, 2012 1:41:00 PM PDT
C. Gerace says:
To John S. & Man Without,
Both of your replies provide balanced perspective. Insightful and intelligent. Touche'!
Posted on Aug 19, 2012 11:25:20 PM PDT
Thank you! I listened to the album on spotify and was not disappointed. Nothing is worse then when a favorite artist puts out an album and it is NOT what you are expecting. There is nothing boring about this album-it is Garbage! They prove they can still do what they do and do it well. I love it.