after doing so much research on the fittings of current levis, I am looking for other brands. So far, NONE fit like they used to. There is absolutley ZERO brands that offer loose jeans that are not low rise, which means the waist stretches like the ones you have shown here. I even went to wal-mart knowing all jeans fit like this now days and bought some cheap knock off wranglers that fit decent upon trying them on (still low rise) but after one wear and wash/dry they became so loose I have given up on jeans completely. The last pair I had that were actually decent quality, were Nautica jeans, and those were STILL low rise.
WHERE ARE ALL THE LOOSE JEANS THAT ARE NOT EXTREMELY BAGGY FOR GANG BANGERS OR MIGHT AS WELL BE DICKIES DOUBLE KNEES?
All we want is loose jeans with a normal height (not low rise, not seating below the waistline) but right on the waist line, with straight loose legs and an 18 or 19" opening.... as soon as these hipsters started wearing skinny jeans it seems like EVERY company just gave up on making normal loose jeans.