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Excellent High Value LG Smart HDTV!!,
This review is from: LG 47LM6200 47-Inch Cinema 3D 1080p 120Hz LED-LCD HDTV with Smart TV and Six Pairs of 3D Glasses (2012 Model) (Electronics)
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The LG 47LM 6200 LED edge lit LCD HDTV is perhaps the best current value on the market today! With a razor sharp crystal clear picture, the absolute BEST 3D passive system available and wireless connectivity coupled with web browsing and limitless apps and 3rd party video content providers, you just can't beat it!
I find a 47 inch HDTV to have the SHARPEST picture obtainable. The larger the screen, the farther apart the pixels are placed and the less cohesive the image becomes. Unless you plan to sit 10 ft or so away from your television I honestly think a 55 inch screen doesn't provide the best picture quality. Perhaps when OLED displays with 4k tech become the norm that will change. But for now, all 3 of my LG flat panels are 47 inch and for a good reason.
Let's start with the picture quality. The video 'engine' inside provides you with a beautiful 1080p rendering from any source component. Whether it is your HD DVR , your Blu Ray Player, or your Standard DVD or even VHS machine, the LG 6200 will up-convert your video signal and present you with the best possible rendering. The color decoders LG provides are top notch. With just a small amount of user calibration you can dial in near perfect color rendering and with the correct backlight/contrast/brightness settings you can obtain previously unheard of contrast ratios that look GREAT in any amount of light.
Don't even get me started on passive 3D. For me, it is the only way to watch 3D. No eye strain, no heavy expensive glasses and a fully enveloping, crystal clear viewing experience. And LG has passive 3D down to a science. It is the very best I have seen. Period! (the 6 pairs of included 3D glasses don't hurt one little bit either!)
I can honestly say that a television with this picture quality and feature set would have cost 10 thousand dollars or more just 6 years ago, had it been available then. Build quality, by the way, is excellent. There is nothing cheap or flimsy about this TV in any way. From the HDMI connectors to the included stand it is quality all the way. Just about the only thing I can possibly complain about is the power cable which is attached, but my higher priced LG 7600 also has that little niggle. (in fact, MOST TV's do)
The included web browser and user apps, coupled with the vast array of premium content, You Tube accessibility and more makes this an 'All in One' entertainment center. Use the included magic remote in the same way you would a Wii game controller. The cool factor is high with this LG! Don't forget about wireless connectivity to your internet router. (Look Ma, no wires) Really, it is amazing what you get for your money with this 6200.
I recently purchased their new 7600 which is 2 models up from this one. The only major difference is a slightly different bezel and cabinet styling, plus the 6200 gives you a 120hz refresh rate, verse the 240hz rate of my 7600. Nine times out of ten the average person simply can not SEE the difference between those two refresh rats and let's face it, a 120hz rate is TWICE AS GOOD in that critical department as our old school CRT tube televisions were. The visual quality of the edge lit back-lighting is spectacular and in my opinion LG has edge lit LED TV's nailed! My 7600 has quasi local dimming that LG calls 'LED Plus', but honestly in almost every real world situation it is NOT a necessary thing to get excellent performance out of an edge lit set. And believe me, this 6200 gives you TOP edge lit performance, of that there can be no doubt at all. If you can afford to spend another 2 thousand dollars on a full array local dimming LED TV then by all means do so, but if you are looking for the best value and picture in a very thin edge lit HDTV, then LG is simply the best in that department bar none!
I was just watching a PAL Columbo DVD (an old 1971 episode) and was thinking to myself about how great this TV can handle standard DVD resolution. A good trick is to engage the Mpeg Noise reduction to the "LOW" setting (found in the Picture options sub menu) and make sure your super resolution is turned on. I have been able to get near HD results from standard DVD'd doing this. Great digital tool box in this TV and at no extra charge!
I am a huge LG supporter. This is the 3rd LG LED 47 inch TV in 2 years. I have been impressed since day one with both the picture quality, amount of features and mature well thought out software implementation provided. The functionality and maturity of the software control systems are a MAJOR plus with LG. This is not a Beta tester product. Everything has been well thought out and executed to give you the highest quality performance. Things work the way they should, due largely to extensive research and development and TESTING on LG's part BEFORE they ship their products to you.
Bottom line: This LG looks, sounds and works the way you WANT it to!
At the current price, the LG 47LM6200 represents one of the very top values in HDTV today. Read my caveats at the very end of this review, but otherwise you just can't beat this TV for the price. IT currently resides in the master bedroom , connected to a Fios HD DVR and Oppo Blu Ray player but could easily be the center of ANY living room entertainment center or home theater set-up. I truly believe it smokes the competition and as such I recommend it very highly!
*** Check customer images for a few PICS I uploaded showing how this TV looks in the 'real world' !
In the interest of full disclosure and fair play I am going to include a small list of shortcomings that befall ALL edge lit HDTV's. This is the same thing I posted at the end of my LG 7600 review and it is also applicable to THIS model.
PLEASE READ ON IF YOU ARE TECHNICALLY MINDED and SUPER PICKY about your VIDEO:
***A word about Flashlighting, Vertical Banding, Clouding and Dirty Screen Effect. These are the artifacts or 'defects' that plague ALL edge lit LCD/LED panels. Some brands are better than others for keeping them at bay. The exact same model of TV may vary widely from unit to unit. My TV may have more artifacts present while another may not.
Basically you need to evaluate your own TV for what you might consider an 'acceptable' level of any or all of these things. By the very nature of an edge lit displays design you just can not escape this, but manufacturing tolerances vary greatly and although you may need to possibly return one or more units you can eventually end up with one you can live with.
The flashlighting on this 6200 is VERY slight, but it IS there and more noticeable during certain types of program material. Keeping your backlight down in the 50-55 range with your contrast in the 85 to 90ish range will GREATLY diminish any flash lighting you may experience. On horizontal pans of light background material you WILL see Vertical banding of varying degrees. I also have SOME dirty screen effect (Google it) and just a BIT of clouding depending on the program material. This is NOT a product defect, but to be expected with an edge lit LED HDTV. Again, it is very slight and not overly noticeable to most people.
Just be aware that ALL these things are inherent in Edge Lit displays. If you just can't live with them (in my case, hardly ANY but still....) then you need to consider a plasma or a full array backlit LCD/LED not an edge lit TV. Also, THOSE types of TVs ALSO have problems, just different ones. (halos, screen uniformity issues, stuck pixels, buzzing, excess heat, burn in, etc.)
BOTTOM LINE: With the exception of possibly the new Sharp ELITE models ( more than 5k to start) there is currently no such thing as a perfect display. Do not set your expectations higher than the technology will allow for. I am VERY pleased with this 6200. It offers an increased level of fine detail that was not present in my Pioneer Kuro Plasma from 4 years ago. The picture quality is on par with my LG 7600 , a TV costing a good 400 dollars more. The color accuracy is REALLY good and motion handling extremely good!
A word about adjusting your picture: As a rule of thumb, RESIST THE URGE to put your backlight to 100! The mistake many people make while trying to get a good picture is not understanding how to properly find the 'sweet spot' on their TV settings. You want to leave yourself plenty of 'headroom' and not clip the visual dynamic range and end up with everything looking positively radioactive!
Put your backlight down around 50 and crank up the contrast to around 85 , and play with your brightness control so that things are neither too dark or washed out. The more brightness you use, the more color intensity is needed, but adjust them in SMALL increments and test them on all types of material. Your cable box/dvr will need a different setting from your Blu Ray player. Every device sends a differently calibrated signal with different ideas of what constitutes a 'nominal' value. I STRONGLY urge you to invest in the Disney Worlds of Wonder, Digital Video Essentials or the Spears and Munsil calibration disc. Do the best job you can , then let the electronics 'burn in' for around 100 hours or so and do it again. It is a tedious process but you will be rewarded with the best picture quality on your block and a much more enjoyable viewing experience! I am currently enjoying overall the BEST picture on ANY HDTV I have ever owned and can thank the Spears and Munsil disc for much of it.
**As always, there ARE a small % of tech failures in electronics and purchasing an extended warranty would be a smart move as no matter how expensive something is, electronics DO fail and at the worst possible times.
Thanks for reading my review and ENJOY your new LG 6200. For the money, it can not be beat! Seriously!
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In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 2:33:58 PM PDT
Thanks for the kind words Chris! The answer to your question is YES and NO. The optical can pass only stereo at this time with both DD and DTS. 5.1 surround for both Dolby Digital and DTS will be sent thru the optical if your source is a locally connected USB stick or Hard Drive. It would be OPTIMAL to pass 5.1 of course from all HDMI inputs to the Optical as well, at least core 5.1. (as optical can not pass DTS Master or Dolby Tru HD uncompressed)
I am at a loss to explain the limitation and am not sure if it is just software, or actual hardware between the HDMI inputs and the Optical audio processing. Either way, even my more pricey 7600 works in exactly the same way. However, both models feature ARC on HDMI 1 if you have an HDMI receiver that can not pass-thru 3D. Just making a guess here, but perhaps this has to do with licensing the tech and fees. Really, it is the only thing I was truly disappointed with for BOTH my current LG models. I run all my optical outputs directly to my AVR , but also connect one from the TV for the times I play files from am thumb drive. As I say, when I use it in THAT way I get full DD or DTS 5.1.
Hope this info helps Chris... Cheers! Marty G
Posted on May 27, 2012 9:50:07 AM PDT
Moe Tapers says:
What about SHOOTING 3D video? A Sony 3D camcorder will produce 3D video on a Sony ("active" system) 3D television. But what 3D camcorders will work as well for LG?
In reply to an earlier post on May 27, 2012 11:22:58 AM PDT
Hello Moe Tapers! Any 3D content will playback on active OR passive systems. ANY Blu Ray disc or 3D video file that is encoded as 3D will display properly on either system. The way each system reproduces 3D is different, but the basic end result is the same. Hope that helps! Cheers! Marty G
Posted on May 29, 2012 7:57:01 PM PDT
Hey Marty How Are You??? I got my 47LM6200 and I'm spinning like a top!!! What a far cry from my Toshiba 42TL515U and fighting with the remote to select a input or waiting over 15 seconds for it to turn on or the constrast changing ever minute. (Read reviews on this set.) I just LOVE this LG!!! The remote and everything LG has added to these set's for 2012 is trully amazing! You were 100% right in everything you told me. I just want to leave and say THANK YOU!!! for all your help. Stay well for our California Lifestyle!!! Next is the LG 65LM6200 or if they add this to the line up for either the 7600, 8600, or 9600 in the future. Adios Amigo!!! Joe V.
In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 8:02:20 PM PDT
Marty, I remember seeing something you wrote about a "Cal Disc" on the LG 47LM6200. Could you email me with that info. I would like to purchase it. Thanks, Joe V.
In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 8:15:27 PM PDT
Ps: My daughter has now had the 670 after a made a deal with her while in my very long hospital stay. I gave her the Toshiba 3D HDTV set along with the 670. When I got out of the hospital(no bs here!!) I wanted to purchase the newest LG 3D Blu-Ray Player and saw all the negatives things about the BP620. All were heading back to repurchasing the BD 670. I luck out and got it for $89 and then it went up to $149 and now back to $89. I just don't get Amazon some times? (lol) You know your right when it comes to people who aren't tech's like us. After 40 years of being a License Electrician and electronics man, Well you just learn as you go forward...
In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 8:29:12 PM PDT
Hello Joseph!~ Boy oh boy you sound TOTALLY STOKED! That's great! So happy to hear about your new TV and your Blu Ray player as well! Sounds like you bought it on just the right day. Yep, the prices DO fluctuate and ALL THE TIME! I watch the items I want for weeks until I decide it is probably at the lowest and then buy. Sometimes i am wrong but usually I am close to the lowest price and since I really want the stuff anyway I am fine with it!
I think we paid $129 for our 670. But we use it daily and are totally getting our moneys worth!
As for my calibration disc recommendations: The easiest one to deal with is the Disney Worlds of Wonder Disc. The most accurate disc is the Spears and Munsil and they have excellent tutorials about each adjustment on their website to help you along. You can get either of those here at Amazon for a very good price.
So glad to hear you are happy with your 6200 ! I really do think that for the money it is the best bargain out there right now. Plasma will give you a deeper blacks but THEY come with another set of problems that I grew tired of dealing with. When OLED becomes affordable for everyone, we will ALL have a pretty much perfect TV. Until then, enjoy your LG 6200 and know you made the best choice for yourself! Cheers! Marty G
Posted on May 30, 2012 10:45:55 AM PDT
Jacqueline N. Crider says:
Okay boys, I am a little bit of a gadget girl and I tend to always like to have the latest and greatest. I am about ready to chuck my 47" Toshiba LCD TV out the window! It seems so big and boxy in comparison to my Samsung 3D TV I bought 2 years ago. It is amazing how much technology has changed over the years. Here's what I need help with. First of all, this LG comes with the glasses, but not the 3D blu ray player correct? And I know you guys have been having some convos about which one to buy, did we settle on the BD 670? This product is made by LG? Secondly, I know there has been a speaker conversation going on. How much do you think I need to budget for good quality speakers and can I get good speakers that are wireless or am I going to have to go wired? I just get so tired of the wires! I am assuming and maybe improperly so, that all of the 3D movies I currently own will work on any of the 3D Blu Ray players regardless if it is made by Sharp, Samsung, LG, etc. Essentially I just want to make sure I have everything I need for a proper set up. Since I work two jobs and go to night law school, I don't have as much time as I used to, to research and get all the info. I would like to have! Oh and opinions about the power surge protectors that turn off the entire strip when your tv turns off? I want to make sure my electronics are properly protected and also not sucking too much energy when I am not using them. Thanks for the info!
In reply to an earlier post on May 30, 2012 11:27:34 AM PDT
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Hello Jacqueline! Yes, any 3D Blu Ray movie should play on ANY 3D Blu Ray player. The LG 670 is fine and probably more than you need if used with a current model LG Smart TV since they both offer virtually the same premium Apps. Still, the 670 is a pretty good quality unit, not the best (The Oppo BDP-93 at 500 bucks is what I use in my main room) but VERY very good!
On the topic of wireless speakers. Remember that while they may not need speaker wires, the all STILL need to be connected to POWER and that of course is done with a WIRE! ( to each speaker) A Belkin surge protector is a good bet for a low cost but effective unit and I use a few of them. Not to bash the 'Monster' brand but save your money and don't fall for their marketing. Belkin is a great brand for both cabling and power surge protection. They are not overly expensive and mine have been in service now for 6 years plus without a single problem.
My advice for speakers TRULY is to purchase Klipsch all the way around. Two front speakers, center channel, powered sub and two rear surrounds. If you don;t mount the rears on the wall you will need stands. If money is an issue at all then look at discontinued product lines from Klipsch such as the Synergy Line or even the better RS and RB lines. I use RB-81's for my left and right, an RC 61 for my center and two RS 52's for my rear surrounds. I also use TWO RW 12-D's for my subs but one is more than enough. You can find all of these from various dealers on Amazon for a fraction of their original prices. One Call is a very good vendor as is New Egg for discontinued Klipsch products. They are both authorized dealers and can give you the FULL 5 year warranty that Klipsch includes with their speakers. I am a very happy and satisfied Klipsch user and my system has been in service now these last 4 years and 6 months. They are champs and give me excellent performance.
I 100% recommend getting the right equipment the first time so you have it over and done with and can just sit back and enjoy your films and TV shows in comfort and style. I am on a limited income but have never regretted plunking it down for my Klipsch system. It is durable and sounds absolutely fabulous. I use a Denon AV receiver to power them rated at 110 watts per channel. It is more than enough for my small to mid sized home theater room. Sure, you can spend a lot more and a lot less and get similar results, but I find the Klipsch and Denon combo is "The Sweet Spot" for home theater and I stand by my recommendation.
For the speakers and amp I would think you can swing them for about 2500 to 2900. MY Denon amp has been in service for 5 years now without a problem. You could always go with a lower end Klipsch product line and get very good results as well, but if you are REALLY wanting something GREAT in your home without spending 10 thousand bucks or more, this set-up will leave you feeling very pleased with yourself!
Hope some of this was helpful to you! Good luck putting it all together! Cheers! Marty G
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 5:46:24 AM PDT
Catherine A Ogburn says:
A dumb question. Do I have to use the 3D glasses to watch my Blu-Ray videos or other HD videos or programs on this TV? If a 2D picture is automatically converted to 3D, do I have to use the glasses for viewing? I'm not sure how this works.