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Excellent High Value LG Smart HDTV!!,
This review is from: LG 47LM6200 47-Inch Cinema 3D 1080p 120Hz LED-LCD HDTV with Smart TV and Six Pairs of 3D Glasses (2012 Model) (Electronics)
Customer review from the Amazon Vine Program (What's this?)The LG 47LM 6200 LED edge lit LCD HDTV is perhaps the best current value on the market today! With a razor sharp crystal clear picture, the absolute BEST 3D passive system available and wireless connectivity coupled with web browsing and limitless apps and 3rd party video content providers, you just can't beat it!
I find a 47 inch HDTV to have the SHARPEST picture obtainable. The larger the screen, the farther apart the pixels are placed and the less cohesive the image becomes. Unless you plan to sit 10 ft or so away from your television I honestly think a 55 inch screen doesn't provide the best picture quality. Perhaps when OLED displays with 4k tech become the norm that will change. But for now, all 3 of my LG flat panels are 47 inch and for a good reason.
Let's start with the picture quality. The video 'engine' inside provides you with a beautiful 1080p rendering from any source component. Whether it is your HD DVR , your Blu Ray Player, or your Standard DVD or even VHS machine, the LG 6200 will up-convert your video signal and present you with the best possible rendering. The color decoders LG provides are top notch. With just a small amount of user calibration you can dial in near perfect color rendering and with the correct backlight/contrast/brightness settings you can obtain previously unheard of contrast ratios that look GREAT in any amount of light.
Don't even get me started on passive 3D. For me, it is the only way to watch 3D. No eye strain, no heavy expensive glasses and a fully enveloping, crystal clear viewing experience. And LG has passive 3D down to a science. It is the very best I have seen. Period! (the 6 pairs of included 3D glasses don't hurt one little bit either!)
I can honestly say that a television with this picture quality and feature set would have cost 10 thousand dollars or more just 6 years ago, had it been available then. Build quality, by the way, is excellent. There is nothing cheap or flimsy about this TV in any way. From the HDMI connectors to the included stand it is quality all the way. Just about the only thing I can possibly complain about is the power cable which is attached, but my higher priced LG 7600 also has that little niggle. (in fact, MOST TV's do)
The included web browser and user apps, coupled with the vast array of premium content, You Tube accessibility and more makes this an 'All in One' entertainment center. Use the included magic remote in the same way you would a Wii game controller. The cool factor is high with this LG! Don't forget about wireless connectivity to your internet router. (Look Ma, no wires) Really, it is amazing what you get for your money with this 6200.
I recently purchased their new 7600 which is 2 models up from this one. The only major difference is a slightly different bezel and cabinet styling, plus the 6200 gives you a 120hz refresh rate, verse the 240hz rate of my 7600. Nine times out of ten the average person simply can not SEE the difference between those two refresh rats and let's face it, a 120hz rate is TWICE AS GOOD in that critical department as our old school CRT tube televisions were. The visual quality of the edge lit back-lighting is spectacular and in my opinion LG has edge lit LED TV's nailed! My 7600 has quasi local dimming that LG calls 'LED Plus', but honestly in almost every real world situation it is NOT a necessary thing to get excellent performance out of an edge lit set. And believe me, this 6200 gives you TOP edge lit performance, of that there can be no doubt at all. If you can afford to spend another 2 thousand dollars on a full array local dimming LED TV then by all means do so, but if you are looking for the best value and picture in a very thin edge lit HDTV, then LG is simply the best in that department bar none!
I was just watching a PAL Columbo DVD (an old 1971 episode) and was thinking to myself about how great this TV can handle standard DVD resolution. A good trick is to engage the Mpeg Noise reduction to the "LOW" setting (found in the Picture options sub menu) and make sure your super resolution is turned on. I have been able to get near HD results from standard DVD'd doing this. Great digital tool box in this TV and at no extra charge!
I am a huge LG supporter. This is the 3rd LG LED 47 inch TV in 2 years. I have been impressed since day one with both the picture quality, amount of features and mature well thought out software implementation provided. The functionality and maturity of the software control systems are a MAJOR plus with LG. This is not a Beta tester product. Everything has been well thought out and executed to give you the highest quality performance. Things work the way they should, due largely to extensive research and development and TESTING on LG's part BEFORE they ship their products to you.
Bottom line: This LG looks, sounds and works the way you WANT it to!
At the current price, the LG 47LM6200 represents one of the very top values in HDTV today. Read my caveats at the very end of this review, but otherwise you just can't beat this TV for the price. IT currently resides in the master bedroom , connected to a Fios HD DVR and Oppo Blu Ray player but could easily be the center of ANY living room entertainment center or home theater set-up. I truly believe it smokes the competition and as such I recommend it very highly!
*** Check customer images for a few PICS I uploaded showing how this TV looks in the 'real world' !
In the interest of full disclosure and fair play I am going to include a small list of shortcomings that befall ALL edge lit HDTV's. This is the same thing I posted at the end of my LG 7600 review and it is also applicable to THIS model.
PLEASE READ ON IF YOU ARE TECHNICALLY MINDED and SUPER PICKY about your VIDEO:
***A word about Flashlighting, Vertical Banding, Clouding and Dirty Screen Effect. These are the artifacts or 'defects' that plague ALL edge lit LCD/LED panels. Some brands are better than others for keeping them at bay. The exact same model of TV may vary widely from unit to unit. My TV may have more artifacts present while another may not.
Basically you need to evaluate your own TV for what you might consider an 'acceptable' level of any or all of these things. By the very nature of an edge lit displays design you just can not escape this, but manufacturing tolerances vary greatly and although you may need to possibly return one or more units you can eventually end up with one you can live with.
The flashlighting on this 6200 is VERY slight, but it IS there and more noticeable during certain types of program material. Keeping your backlight down in the 50-55 range with your contrast in the 85 to 90ish range will GREATLY diminish any flash lighting you may experience. On horizontal pans of light background material you WILL see Vertical banding of varying degrees. I also have SOME dirty screen effect (Google it) and just a BIT of clouding depending on the program material. This is NOT a product defect, but to be expected with an edge lit LED HDTV. Again, it is very slight and not overly noticeable to most people.
Just be aware that ALL these things are inherent in Edge Lit displays. If you just can't live with them (in my case, hardly ANY but still....) then you need to consider a plasma or a full array backlit LCD/LED not an edge lit TV. Also, THOSE types of TVs ALSO have problems, just different ones. (halos, screen uniformity issues, stuck pixels, buzzing, excess heat, burn in, etc.)
BOTTOM LINE: With the exception of possibly the new Sharp ELITE models ( more than 5k to start) there is currently no such thing as a perfect display. Do not set your expectations higher than the technology will allow for. I am VERY pleased with this 6200. It offers an increased level of fine detail that was not present in my Pioneer Kuro Plasma from 4 years ago. The picture quality is on par with my LG 7600 , a TV costing a good 400 dollars more. The color accuracy is REALLY good and motion handling extremely good!
A word about adjusting your picture: As a rule of thumb, RESIST THE URGE to put your backlight to 100! The mistake many people make while trying to get a good picture is not understanding how to properly find the 'sweet spot' on their TV settings. You want to leave yourself plenty of 'headroom' and not clip the visual dynamic range and end up with everything looking positively radioactive!
Put your backlight down around 50 and crank up the contrast to around 85 , and play with your brightness control so that things are neither too dark or washed out. The more brightness you use, the more color intensity is needed, but adjust them in SMALL increments and test them on all types of material. Your cable box/dvr will need a different setting from your Blu Ray player. Every device sends a differently calibrated signal with different ideas of what constitutes a 'nominal' value. I STRONGLY urge you to invest in the Disney Worlds of Wonder, Digital Video Essentials or the Spears and Munsil calibration disc. Do the best job you can , then let the electronics 'burn in' for around 100 hours or so and do it again. It is a tedious process but you will be rewarded with the best picture quality on your block and a much more enjoyable viewing experience! I am currently enjoying overall the BEST picture on ANY HDTV I have ever owned and can thank the Spears and Munsil disc for much of it.
**As always, there ARE a small % of tech failures in electronics and purchasing an extended warranty would be a smart move as no matter how expensive something is, electronics DO fail and at the worst possible times.
Thanks for reading my review and ENJOY your new LG 6200. For the money, it can not be beat! Seriously!
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 8:23:30 AM PDT
Jacqueline N. Crider says:
Hey there again. If I buy the Klipsch speakers etc, how do I connect them? What products do I need to purchase to make sure they all connect properly? Thanks Marty!
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 9:44:52 AM PDT
Hi Jacqueline !! Get yourself some 16 gauge speaker wire (make sure to measure, give yourself plenty of extra slack footage and TRY to make each pair of speakers use lengths of wire that are the SAME length. You DO NOT need Monster cable or a super high priced brand. Generic is fine if the gauge is right, but make sure to read plenty of product reviews before purchasing to KNOW it is good stuff.
ALSO, to simplify matters, buy as many sets of "Banana Plugs" as needed so you can plug the wires directly into the back of your amp and speakers. (Google this) This will make connecting everything quick and painless AFTER you take the time to attach the wires to the Banana Plugs. It is not hard and You Tube has actual videos where people SHOW YOU how to do it. Again, Google is an invaluable resource for finding out anything you need to know about this stuff. IN addition, you will need some wire cutters that are designed for different gauges and a bit of time and patience. But trust me, trying to connect all the speakers to all the connections on your amp AND your speakers without the Banana Plugs is tedious and at times dangerous, especially if a stray strand of wire accidentally touches something else and shorts out your system. (I have learned this the hard way , many years back! DOH !!!)
Also, don't forget a subwoofer cable which unlike the speaker wire is usually just a long shielded cable that terminates at either end in an RCA jack. Again, do not buy a Monster cable, instead save your money and get a Belkin or similar brand.
Good Luck and I hope it all works out great for you! Cheers! Marty G
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 14, 2012 8:38:14 PM PDT
Jacqueline N. Crider says:
Hey there again. So an update on some of my purchases to see what you think. The boyfriend thought I needed a bigger tv so I upgraded to the 55"7600 model. Even checked it out at Best Buy and loved everything about it. Bought myself the Klipsch Quintet and did extra research and ask some techy nerds around my parts too about them! :) Klipsch subwoofer, 100 ft of 16 gauge, 24 bannana plugs, the BD670, and a Pioneer amp with 2 zones, 7 channels, ethernet capabilites and a bunch of other bells and whistles. (Did that because I am planning on getting a 2nd set of Klipsch for my bedroom 3d tv and wanted them to run on the same amp. On the subwoofer cable I was looking at this one: Mediabridge 8 feet Ultra Series - Dual Shielded Subwoofer Cable - RCA to RCA Gold Plated Pro Grade Connectors Thoughts? Also, I have red that I need an HDMI cable with a movable head because of where the hdmi output is on the tv. Is this accurate? I was told I could run everything thru the amp since it is 3d capable and as long as the HDMI had ethernet capability, that would run that into the tv as well. I think I have just about crossed all my T's and dotted all my I's. Now to go and slither thru the attic to run the wires! Oh what fun in Texas in June! :) Thanks for all the help. I even recommended someone today to check out your post as I thought it was one of the most thorough reviews I had ever seen. Thanks again for all your help! You are a doll! :)
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 14, 2012 9:17:38 PM PDT
Hey, that's GREAT Jacqueline !! Sounds like you have it all together. Everything sounds fine and should work out for you perfectly once you get used to all the quirks that each piece of equipment has. (they ALL have quirks as you shall soon find out! lol)
YES you are 100% correct regarding the HDMI that goes into the TV. If you don't get one that can hit it at a right angle, the cable will noticeably stick out of the left side of the 7600. Sorry about the wiring in the heat. I live in the high desert of California and can relate!
Once you get everything working and live with it for awhile, why not post and tell us all how it worked out ok? And thanks very much for your very kind and appreciated remarks. Take Care! Cheers! Marty G
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 5:07:39 PM PDT
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We just bought the 55" 6200 yesterday and I'm needing help.... Friends of ours have an LG and the picture quality is just stunning (even on regular non HDTV channels) and I'm not seeing it with this TV and need to know what to set the picture settings at. I took your recommendation on the backlight and the contrast, but there is so many other options like sharpness, colour (warm/cold) and I just don't know what they should be at. We are having it professionally calibrated in about a month (did that so if I wanted to take the TV back we could have the calibration done on the other TV) so wanted to confirm getting it calibrated was a good thing (it was included in the price of our TV) and I see you recommend the DVD's but that sounds too advanced for me. So while you think this TV is amazing, and HD looks good, regular standard looks like crap. We just upgraded from a Samsung which was only 720 60gz (I think) and I was expecting a HUGE difference in quality. We use satellite signal for cable but am thinking I could move to regular cable (in Ontario) We also bought 9ft rocket fish HDMI cable - but could have gotten away with a shorter length - would this change the quality? I'm sorry, I'm all over the map with questions, I just want an amazing picture on both HD and standard and I don't know how to get it and need help.... Any and all suggestions you can give to set colour/coolness/sharpness/contrast etc would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Look forward to hearing back from you - your review was awesome and put me at ease as thought I made a huge mistake. Also, is this a 1080p TV or is a 1080p compatible? I think I just read somewhere that it was a 1980 x (insert another number) compatible... I'm worried I made a big mistake and for the price want to ensure I'm getting my full value and have the TV hooked up accurately. We have 30 days to return if need be. I don't care too much about the 3D (although my daughter thinks its cool) so if you suggest something similar in a different model/brand that is 55 inches for under $2000 (with taxes) I would be pleased to take those suggestions as well. Thank you again - sorry about being a spaz...
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 5:16:19 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 17, 2012 5:47:09 PM PDT
Just saw your post. I will copy and paste you my settings, I just need to find them. Don't worry, help is on the way. I will give you EXACT settings. You still may need to raise or lower a few adjustments here and there, but these will get you in the ballpark ok? ALSO, watching in a very bright room is NOT GOOD with LCD/LED TV's in general. Always try to at least partially close your curtains or drapes and your picture will automatically become richer looking.
I have a question. WHAT is connected to your TV. (cable box, what type? Blu Ray Player? DVD player?) Back in a bit with the info for you ok? Cheers! Marty G
ALL new LG TV's are 1080p native panel resolution with MOST having a native 120hz refresh rate.
OK here is what I am using now. ALSO, you can easily use the included LG Picture Wizard II function which can be found in the settings menu. It will take you step by step thru everything and help you to dial it in to your liking. As far as getting it calibrated, WELL that all depends on who is doing it. If it is a certified ISF calibrator, your chances are good that it will be very improved. But the geek squad from the Big Box Blu and Yellow store usually isn't quite up to the job. No offense to those geeks who actually ARE ISF members and know what they are doing. I am NOT an ISF member and therefore have only gleamed my knowledge and ability from extensive reading and research. I do have a pretty good selection of calibration tools and software but I am quite sure there are MANY out there that could do a better job with one eye closed! LOL
Anyway, here is info from another post I made regarding another of my LG TV's. They are the same other than yours has no local dimming or control over the tru motion.
Using a starting point from the professional calibration done by the flatpanelshd website I dialed mine in more with the Speers and Munsil. Just remember that MY settings may not be good for YOU or to your liking! A LOT depends on the brightness of your room and the source components you have connected to the TV. (Blu Ray, DVD, DVR, etc)
(you can set up Expert 1 and 2 for light and dark rooms and switch between them depending on the time of day or your ambient lighting)
USE "JUST SCAN" unless you have a program that has squiggly lines showing at the top and bottom and you can temporarily switch to 16:9 but that engages "overscan" and blows it up a bit to large for the source content.
V/H Sharpness: 10-10
Dynamic Contrast Off
Super Resolution ON or Off (I find with Standard Def material it DOES have a noticeable effect)
Color Gamut Standard
Edge enhancer Off
Color Filter Off
Noise reduction Off
Mpeg noise reduction Off
Black level Low
Color temperature Warm
*** A word about Gamma. If you adjust your TV using the 2.2 Gamma, you have "wiggle room" in case you run across a show or disc that is too bright or too dark. If it is too dark, lower the gamma and if it is too bright RAISE the gamma. There are 3 settings in total and calibrating to your MIDDLE setting will always allow you to adjust for individual shows and their problems by changing just ONE control, which you can change back to 2.2 when you are done watching. A good understanding of what the Gamma controls actually does and what knowing that can do for you and your content is essential for making EVERYTHING look as good as you can. Sometimes one setting does not fit all, depending on the content.
CHECK "GAMMA CONTROL" on Google for more info.
FINE COLOR ADJUSTMENTS:
RGB Method 2 point
R high -6
G high -11
B high 18
R low -1
G low -2
B low 4 (to adjust the color temp this way you first go thru the RGB High, then toggle to Low and go down the list again. Then when the TV prompts you to "apply to all inputs?" I clicked YES so all my inputs had the same color temp.)
Finally, while this is a decent starting point towards a good calibration, it is NOT the end all be all. You may not like how things look at all at first and might require a while to get used to it. The out of the box settings are lousy compared to what can be achieved with this 6200 and the great control software LG offers which of course is built right in.
Once you get these settings in, then play mainly with your brightness and contrast and in SMALL increments. Normally the higher you put those controls the more you may need to boost the color. ALWAYS keep the back light lower (REALLY!!!!) than the contrast to avoid clipping the display and running out of dynamic headroom for fine adjustments. Sometimes it is MUCH BETTER to lower things, than to raise them. Less is more and a little goes a long way!
One final word. 55 inches is PRETTY BIG and Standard Definition video is bound to look less than ideal.
The LG I watch daily is a 47 inch model for that very reason. But for HDTV or Blu Ray/HD DVD content 55 inches can really rock!
GOOD LUCK! Cheers! Marty G
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 5:29:33 PM PDT
I added more to my original post so if you don't mind going back to read that would be amazing- I'm sorry, I'm just a non technically person but want the best and can make changes if need be. To answer your question, we are in Ontario and have Bell Satellite - so I'm hooked up to an HD/PVR box which on the back reads 120 volts 60Hz so I called bell as they now offer a finer optix TV and thought maybe I needed to upgrade to that, but that system is also the same. We then have the options or Rogers Digital Cable - again thru a box but can't find anywhere what the output of the box is (if that is even what I'm supposed to be looking at) We do not have Blu Ray player at all and no other DVD is hooked up - just the terminal from Bell which is an HD PVR. You're amazing, thank you so much for getting back to me so quickly! I've been stressing for 2 days now... I did find on the internet that my TV needed to be at 16:9 and so did my box so I changed that already. But on the TV, there is just too much to choose from... You not a darker room. Are reading lamps with 60watt soft white okay?
I also can't get my stuff from my macbook (like movies in iTunes) to work on the TV - tried installing plex or something and tried to register but it kept blocking me. While this is a cool feature, not a deal breaker as I can get apple TV if need me.
Thank you again - you're amazing and so generous to help us all. Let me know if I've bought the wrong TV/model and if you suggest something different.
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 5:47:08 PM PDT
Marty - you're amazing! Your numbers above really helped but have another question. When I wave the magic wand and point to the top of the screen - at the top of the screen it notes HDMI 1 no programming but on the right hand side it notes 16:9 1080p 60Hz - is that my cable? How do I change that to 120Hz - do you know what I'm talking about? Can you please let me know if that can be changed. Thanks again!
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 6:15:16 PM PDT
Hi J. Piper. Thanks for your kind remarks and glad to be of help!
EVERYTHING you see on your screen is automatically unconverted by your LG to 1080p. The top info display bar you see lets you know what your source signal is. IN this case, it is a 60hz signal which denotes an NTSC TV signal from your cable system or an over the air broadcast. If you lived in England or another PAL country it would have said 50hz. (yes, the LG can handle either) You need not change ANYTHING at this point. Your readout lets you know your DVR or cable box is outputting 1080 to your TV and that it is a 60hz signal which has nothing to do with the 120 refresh rate that your TV ALWAYS outputs. You will ALWAYS get 120hz as that is your panels' native refresh rate !!
So to recap, the info bar at the top just shows you the TYPE of signal you are feeding your TV. If you had a Blu Ray player connected, it would say 1080/24 (with 24 frames activated on your player). It will NEVER say 120hz in that info bar. Only the TYPE of input signal your TV is given to work with! Easy, once you know the facts eh?
Good Luck and enjoy our new TV! Cheers! Marty G
Posted on Jun 19, 2012 8:37:23 AM PDT
Does THIS TV support Skype or not?