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A Gripping Story from a Boots on the Ground Perspective,
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This review is from: No Easy Day: The Autobiography of a Navy Seal: The Firsthand Account of the Mission That Killed Osama Bin Laden (Hardcover)
In No Easy Day, you see an account of the raid to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden from the eyes on someone who was there - one of four team leaders on the ground that night. The account is most definitely gripping, I could not put it down and I skipped sleeping to finish it - yes, there will be hell to pay at work tomorrow. But, nowhere close to as much hell as the operators in DevGru (aka Seal Team 6) undertook to get into DevGru and to stay there.
The first thing that struck me was just how elite a team the US sent on that raid. To be a member of DevGru you have to ALREADY be a Navy Seal. Most who apply don't make it, but they go back to being a "regular" SEAL which has nothing regular about it. For the Bin Laden raid, they essentially assembled an All Star team of the most seasoned DevGru operators from multiple teams and put them together on a team consisting of the best of the best of the best.
My next takeaway on the actual raid itself was how many things actually went wrong. Here you have the best of the best taking part in a historic mission, and all kinds of things start falling apart. Yet, amazingly (to me), despite all the problems, it still worked out. Thats because everything that could have gone wrong was previously anticipated, contingency plans made, and all back up plans were rehearsed multiple times. While I considered the mission to be successful, the impression I get is the members of DevGru thought they could have done it much better. (I'll leave out the details as to avoid spoiling the story).
This leads me to my next takeaway which is just how devoted to perfection and exceptional performance these operators seem to be. One thing that surprised me is how much they train when they aren't deployed. If they aren't jumping out of helicopters on a real mission, they are jumping out of real helicopters for practice. The missions are abroad and the training sessions are state side but often away from home too.
In short, these guys don't ever seem to be at home very much, it just takes that much work and training to be as good as these guys are. I for one am glad they are on OUR side and my appreciation for them has certainly gone way up after reading this book,
No Easy Day very much gives you a view into both the Bin Laden raid but also the years and in some cases decades of demanding work that led up to it... And the title IS accurate, there doesn't seem to be ANY easy days as a member of DevGru.
Overall a gripping story on the Bin Laden raid with excellent perspective on the life of the operators in DevGru (Seal Team 6).
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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 16, 2012 12:59:54 AM PDT
You are being ridiculous. The members of the armed forces themselves would rather be fighting wars where the public hadn't been lied to. They would rather be protecting a nation where TRUTH was one of the highest values. They would rather not be put in a position of static defence where they represent an easy target. They don't want to be getting Gulf War Syndrome from being jacked up with poisons and this being called "vaccinated." William Brown is sticking up for the soldiers and honouring them because he is sticking up for TRUTH. You Ms Gibson, are dishonouring and abusing the soldiers because you are sticking up for relentless lying and fantasy as domestic and foreign policy.
In reply to an earlier post on Sep 16, 2012 1:44:22 AM PDT
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Posted on Sep 19, 2012 6:34:24 PM PDT
James McDonald says:
This truly is 1984 where as the author of this publication even admitted on CNN that who ever he shot, did not look like bin Laden and that the Pentagon can't find any records about the death. Seems like if the PTB wanted to put this issue to bed, if there are any records, they would have been disclosed to prove this story. If there are records, and those records are being withheld, this is a violation of the law. Applying any sort of "State Secret act" conflicts with the fact that this publication was released. Able danger is the example. This thing whole thing is presenting that there is indeed, a deception being played on the American population. Just the facts, no emotion, no assumptions, just science and a little common sense. This is a disinformation operation.
In reply to an earlier post on Sep 20, 2012 9:30:44 AM PDT
The Jian says:
In reply to an earlier post on Sep 20, 2012 11:20:59 AM PDT
Of course he didn't shoot bin Laden. Else why are they claiming they dumped his body in the sea? This nonsense about not fighting back . How does that tie up with their story about murdering a stranger in the first place? What lunatic murders a stranger who isn't fighting back? Stupid public service thug cannot get his story straight.
In reply to an earlier post on Sep 20, 2012 11:25:27 AM PDT
No doubt you are still fooled by fat Laden , whose nose is half as long as the real deal. So you probably don 't think it matters who they shot or how lame and baseless the story they finally settled on is.
Posted on Sep 20, 2012 3:29:55 PM PDT
Posted on Sep 20, 2012 3:31:03 PM PDT
Pentagon admits it has no photo evidence of Bin Laden's death
Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/323364#
By Elliott Freeman
May 1, 2012 in Politics
Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/323364#
Pentagon officials recently disclosed to the Associated Press (AP) that they could not find any photo or video evidence to confirm that Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden was killed in the Navy Seal raid in Pakistan a year ago.
AP has submitted more than 20 requests for information surrounding the raid on Bin Laden's Abbottabad compound to the U.S. Government under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).
In response to the request for visual evidence of Bin Laden's death, the Pentagon stated that it could not find any pictures or video footage of the raid itself or of Bin Laden's dead body. It also told AP it could not locate any images of Bin Laden's body that were taken on the U.S.S. Carl Vinson, the Navy aircraft carrier that reportedly lowered him into the sea after his death.
In addition, the Pentagon admitted that it could not find an autopsy report, death certificate or results of a DNA identification test for Bin Laden, in spite of claims made by President Obama and reported by CBC News that a DNA test was performed.
These admissions follow a related FOIA response by the Department of Defense in February, in which it stated that it had no emails concerning the Bin Laden raid that were sent prior to its execution.
The Atlantic Wire reported in February that the CIA claimed it had visual proof of Bin Laden's death, but the Pentagon's admission that it does not have any evidence of this kind still raises significant questions, since its jurisdiction includes the Navy Seals that conducted the raid and the Navy ship that buried Bin Laden at sea.
The latest revelation drew the suspicion of Lt. Col. Robert Bowman (ret.), the former director of Advanced Space Programs Development for the U.S. Air Force. "It makes the official story sound very fishy," Bowman said in an interview with Digital Journal. "Without proof, I'm not buying it carte blanche."
Bowman also pointed to the reports that Bin Laden died in 2001 or 2002, which have been supported by former FBI counter-terrorism chief Dale Watson, former assistant Secretary of State Steve Pieczenik, former U.S. foreign intelligence officer Angelo Codevilla and other intelligence experts. "This smacks of a cover-up," Bowman added.
Some organizations contend that the cover-up extends beyond the Bin Laden raid, including Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, a group of over 1,600 technical professionals that is calling for a new 9/11 investigation. "The raid is not the only part of the Bin Laden narrative that doesn't add up," said founder Richard Gage, AIA. "It's also highly unlikely that Bin Laden and Al Qaeda had access to plant the explosives that brought down the Twin Towers and Building 7."
Meanwhile, President Obama called for a time of remembrance and contemplation on the anniversary of the raid. "I think for us to use that time for some reflection, to give thanks to those who participated is entirely appropriate, and that's what's been taking place," he said on Monday, according to McClatchy News. It remains to be seen how the public will reflect on the lack of credible evidence surrounding the demise of the world's most wanted terrorist.
Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/323364#
Posted on Sep 20, 2012 3:32:33 PM PDT
Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
Published December 26, 2001
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576
Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.
"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.
Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.
About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."
The Taliban source who claims to have seen bin Laden's face before burial said "he looked pale ... but calm, relaxed and confident."
Asked whether bin Laden had any feelings of remorse before death, the source vehemently said "no." Instead, he said, bin Laden was proud that he succeeded in his mission of igniting awareness amongst Muslims about hegemonistic designs and conspiracies of "pagans" against Islam. Bin Laden, he said, held the view that the sacrifice of a few hundred people in Afghanistan was nothing, as those who laid their lives in creating an atmosphere of resistance will be adequately rewarded by Almighty Allah.
When asked where bin Laden was buried, the source said, "I am sure that like other places in Tora Bora, that particular place too must have vanished."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576
In reply to an earlier post on Sep 20, 2012 7:20:50 PM PDT
The Jian says:
I've never heard of the digitaljournal (figures). But from your own link:
"The Pentagon is refusing even to confirm or deny the existence of helicopter maintenance logs and reports about the performance of military gear used in the raid. One of the stealth helicopters that carried the SEALs to Abbottabad crashed during the mission and its wreckage was left behind. People who lived near bin Laden's compound took photos of the disabled chopper as it straddled one of the high walls surrounding the building. The photos showed a unique tail rotor that aviation experts said was designed to avoid radar detection."
A glomar response as noted in the following paragraph. They are refusing to release info, which is far different from saying it doesn't exist. AP is attempting to get around this, but attempts so far via FOIA have been refused.
From your fox link below:
From a guy who was "allegedly" at the funeral to a spot he was buried at that they can't prove...LOL. Is this the best you can do. That isn't fox saying he's dead. Did you read the article or just google and post the first link that looked like it supported your story? They can't provide any proof he died in 2001...LOL. Nice. From a Taliban source no less...ROFL.
"Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader."
So someone gets word of mouth from someone who allegedly saw the funeral, with no pics, no dna, etc. Basically just some hearsay. I'd say he did the smart thing, faked a story hoping we'd stop looking...ROFL. Did you watch the seal in the video interview? Sounds like he's pretty sure they killed the right man. Even your own article says many got pictures of the chopper left behind which was discussed in the interview in great detail, with a tail that is designed to avoid radar. Do you actually read your own links? I did. All of the quoted info comes from some alleged source who has no name or credentials. Just a nice story though...LOL. Thanks for the laugh. You quoted it, but didn't read it? They can't even say where he's buried. Because he wasn't? :) Not a single picture of the funeral? No dna? No body?...I should believe a taliban supporter with no name? :) Yeah ok. I prefer to believe the seals account who has really pissed off obama for outing his lies about the event and taking credit for something he had almost nothing to do with. :) You believe all muslims are peaceful too?
From your article:
"AP is appealing the Defense Department's decision. The CIA, which ran the bin Laden raid and has special legal authority to keep information from ever being made public, still has not responded to AP's request for records about the mission.
The CIA has photographs of video recordings of bin Laden taken during the operation. In the days after the raid, select U.S. lawmakers were invited to visit a secure room at CIA headquarters to view more than a dozen of the images, including pictures of bin Laden's body. They were not allowed to take copies of the photos back to Capitol Hill.
Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., a senior member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said he viewed one photo that showed brain matter coming out of bin Laden's eye socket. Inhofe said others were taken as the body was being prepared for burial at sea and were less jarring. He said Thursday that he favors making at least a few of the less graphic photos public to dispel any doubts that bin Laden is dead.
"There are probably still people out there who don't think he was killed," Inhofe said.
Federal courts consistently have upheld the government's use of the Glomar response, which is different from refusing to disclose materials. Citing Glomar often happens in national security cases or is used to protect an individual's privacy. It's a tough legal claim to beat in court.
The former director of the Justice Department's Office of Information and Privacy, Dan Metcalfe, said the Pentagon overplayed its position. Citing Glomar in AP's case means the fact that the military performs maintenance on helicopters or that it prepares reports about weapons performance is itself classified, he said. The Pentagon's claim is so broad that it "collapses of its own weight," Metcalfe said.
Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group, has sued the administration in federal court to force the release of photos and video of bin Laden. AP has not sued to force the government to turn over the broader range of materials it has requested.
In the Judicial Watch lawsuit, federal officials acknowledged that the CIA has more than 50 photographs and video recordings of bin Laden's body taken after the raid and during his burial at sea. The director of the CIA's National Clandestine Service, John Bennett, said in a court declaration last year that many of the photographs and video recordings are "quite graphic, as they depict the fatal bullet wound to [bin Laden] and other similarly gruesome images of his corpse."
Judicial Watch has disputed the Obama administration's argument that American personnel and secrets will be at risk if the images are released. It called the concern over violence against Americans stationed overseas "hypothetical speculation" and said it is hard to understand how a photo of bin Laden being buried at sea would expose sensitive equipment or personnel.
U.S. Special Operations Command, which oversees the Navy SEALs and other commando units, keeps tight rein on information about their equipment, training and missions. In August 2007, it denied a request by AP for an internal report on the Battle of Mogadishu, a military operation in Somalia in October 1993 that cost 18 American troops their lives.
The command told AP that the report was still classified, even though the battle, better known as "Black Hawk Down," was the subject of books, a movie and countless military studies. Under AP's appeal, the command eventually released a copy with all but nine of the 73 pages completely blacked out. Most of the information remains secret, the command said, to protect military plans, weapon systems and the privacy of individuals involved."
They do this all the time. They have release NO PHOTOS of anything yet (but people have been flown to see them in private). AS we can see violence is breaking out all over without us glorifying the pics of his death, which would seem to indicate they're right to hold back as it would endanger lives abroad as we currently see now with a dead ambassador and 2 seals etc. They've shown them in private as noted above to people who do want them released (as noted) just to shut people like you up. The law suit is over that, NOT that they don't exist. It's over a group wanting to publicize it all, and note that AP isn't that group, they are NOT suing. Only Judicial Watch is. Again, I say it, nobody is claiming it isn't real here, they're just suing to see it so you'll shut up. Read your own stuff...jeez. There's more, i didn't post your whole article as I don't want to fill the board any more than we already have arguing with useless comments like yours. I'm blocking you now too (thanks amazon for this very handy feature) :) I'm NOT sorry your famed leader is now dead thanks to the seals :) Get over it.