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Better than more expensive systems.,
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This review is from: Yamaha NS-SP1800BL 5.1-Channel Home Theater Speaker System (Electronics)It took me weeks of research before I purchased this product. I liked the idea of the Yamaha name, but was concerned the quality would be less than optimal because the price was so low. While I am not an audiophile I like to have the best my limited money can buy. The 6 Ohm rating was a big hiccup for me as well, as 8 ohm is what all receiver ratings are calculated on. But after looking closely at the manual for my receiver I found it supported 6-16 Ohm speakers. So we were good there. My receiver, a Pioneer VSK-519 showed up before my speakers so I hooked it up to some Sony book shelf speakers to "test it out". When the Yamaha speakers came I was only able to hook up three of the five speakers with the included speaker wire, so I used the Sony's as R and L. The Sony's put out noticeably more sound than the Yamaha's which was at first concerning to me. And once I got them out of the way I had to turn the receiver up higher to get the same output. I watch movies right around 50-52 when with the Sony speakers, I was quite happy at 40. I suspect this is related to the 82 db rating (and the only reason I give it 4 stars instead of 5). But turning the Amp up a little higher is not a big deal and the Receiver has been very happy in it's low ventilation area, and is in no danger of overheating.
I also upgraded my speaker wire to 16 gauge and have not noticed a difference.
Other thoughts, even though the Sub is a 100W amp, it only produces 50W of output, just like it says on the Manufacture site. So Amazon was a little misleading there. No big deal, because the Sub is quite adequate in my 1200 sqft house, it is everywhere, my poor wife.
My Brother who spent well over $1000 on his surround sound (Mine: $100.98 speakers, $165 receiver, $10 in speaker wire) said my setup sounded better than his, we were watching UP on Blu-ray. That made me very happy! So it was well worth it, and I have been very pleased with the whole set up.
On a side note I definitely recommend the Pioneer VSK-519. It is the only receiver in it's class (<$200) that accepts and uses audio via HDMI from your sources, where most do "pass through" and therefore make you bring your audio via digital coax or optical. This is great because you need HDMI or 5 pairs of RCA cables (My BD player only has HDMI out) to get true loss-less audio.
I definitely recommend these speakers for people on a budget, but if I had an extra $100 I would have gotten some Energy Take 5 speakers paired with a Polk sub. But no regrets and I don't plan on upgrading them anytime soon.
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Initial post: Apr 8, 2010 9:13:46 AM PDT
Lance Gross says:
Wow-- great review!! Really appreciate listing the details about the receiver you used as well. Also good to know how it filled your 1200 sqft home w/ sound as our home is 1240! Again, thanks so much!!
Posted on Dec 28, 2010 7:53:00 AM PST
Troy A. Harrell says:
are these powered speakers?
Posted on Oct 27, 2011 2:57:16 PM PDT
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R. Novak says:
If the sensitivity rating listed here on Amazon is accurate, these speakers is sub par even for Yamaha.. low sensivitivity means it takes more power to drive them to the same audible output and that is why they had a lower volume than the Sony's at the same power level..... If the sensitivity rating is inaccurate, then go into the receiver speaker setup menu and adjust the dB level of each channel until the sound is even...
In reply to an earlier post on Jan 4, 2012 10:37:55 PM PST
Nathan E. Johnson says:
Thanks for the review!
@R. Novak : In the hifi world (and by extension in the home theater world), high sensitivity does not necessarily imply high quality, and low sensitivity does not necessarily imply poor quality. Some very well regarded speakers have relatively low sensitivity ratings and are considered power hungry (b&w for instance). Louder is not always better.
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 5, 2012 12:24:33 AM PST
Amen. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
On the sensitive and excellent end of things, I grew up with a folded horn enclosure containing an Altec 601C Voice of the Theater speaker. With a thirty-five watt monaural tube amplifier and a pipe organ record, we inadvertently cracked the plaster ceiling. It was pretty awesome.
I still use the speaker (along with a second, a 601D) but sadly, the wonderful Volkswagen sized folded horn enclosure is long gone.
Posted on Jul 9, 2012 7:45:50 PM PDT
You might want to try a larger gauge wire, I've often been amazed at the difference that something so cheap and simple can make. And I'm not talking about high priced "Monster" cable and it's ilk. Another thing is to play around with the distance that the speaker is from the wall, the angle that the speaker is pointed, and what it's sitting on. Again for the cost of a few minutes of experimentation, the quality of sound can sometimes turn tin into gold!
Posted on Oct 28, 2012 7:43:32 AM PDT
"...even though the Sub is a 100W amp, it only produces 50W of output, just like it says on the Manufacture site. So Amazon was a little misleading there."
I think you are looking at this data incorrectly. I wouldn't go so far to say that Amazon was "misleading". It's very common in electronics marketing for advertisements to list the Peak Power rather than the RMS since the PEAK is a higher number and; therefore, more impressive to consumers. The RMS is the continuous operating power that an amplifier puts out. The peak power is the max that the unit can handle. This is an oversimplified explanation, but it should give the basic idea about why there is a difference between the listed 100W of power and the 50W of power that the unit actually puts out during normal operation.
I had a Marshall guitar amplifier that was only 40 watts; however, it was loud enough to cause hearing damage. Granted, it also had a 12" driver (speaker) but the point is that for small room use, 50 watts might be plenty adequate if your speakers are good quality and placed properly.
In reply to an earlier post on Oct 28, 2012 7:45:33 AM PDT
Cosmicmes, you are 100% correct. Good post!
Posted on Nov 3, 2013 8:26:33 AM PST
Great review. I am exactly in the market for same, low end receiver and speaker with budget around $350. I was considering sony or onkyo receiver. Almost same home size.
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