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5.0 out of 5 stars Truly HD camcorder in pocket size! Buy, Buy Buy!, June 9, 2009
A Kid's Review
This review is from: Sony HDR-CX100 AVCHD HD Camcorder with Smile Shutter & 10x Optical Zoom (Black) (Electronics)
Excellent EXMOR Sensor and image processing engine, the BEST as for today! Small size. Full HD. Fast start. Even with "Limited" features has a lots of them. Camera instantly detected in PC-XP Pro and Mac-OS/X. I do not care about 4MP still shots, so won't even bother to talk about it.

Native MTS camcorder format is not supported by many players. It needs to be converted to H.264 usable by BlueRay players ...
I was reading reviews before buying this camcorder, and was just amazed how much ridiculous stuff people were saying. Some have no clue what to do with this (or Canon...) HiDef camcorders! Speaking about this CX100 - there is nothing to be scared about. Nor about Canon's or others Sony, Canon Panasonic's ... all using slightly different flavors/methods of recording AVCHD. Sony happen to mark their movies with MTS extension. I have ~6 years old Pentium 4 2.8HT/2 GB RAM/XFX with NVidia7600GT card/DirectX 9.x. (Window Media Player +Xvid plugin) playback is not perfect, a little choppy but acceptable. Please note, that if you computer preview is smudgy and choppy, this is NOT a CAMERA fault! Same video is played perfectly fine on Blue Ray player when converted to H.264. I also have new unibody 2008 Mac Book pro OS X - laptop detects camera right away and launching iMovie08, offering video transfer. If you have older, non Intel Processor Mac - forget about this camera - and ALL OTHER's AVCHD/H.264 camcorders - most likely they will not be working for you. So, please, do not write negative reviews, do not confuse people, OK?

I do not use Component and AV cables (they still in the box). If you do, you are downgrading HiDef video to patetic Analog quality. I refuse call it a "Standard Definition". HDTV is new STANDARD! And that other thing is, Analog. :) So, I use just a HDTV cable to direct view on HDTV, and USB cable to move files to Harddrive.

This camcorder when connected via USB cable is detected as external drive, not a camera. No big deal to me, even more convenient. I prefer to be able to save original files by Copying them to folder I created on my harddrive. When camera is connected to computer, make sure - do not delete movies from camcorder this way. Movies "List/Previews" still will be displayed in camera LCD preview. Completely delete files in build in memory only using in-camera controls. And format removable MemStick only in camcorder, not in computer. I believe, this is typical to all camcorders.

If you already have HDTV - LCD or Plasma, you can view footage directly from camera connecting via HDTV cable. It is looking really good on my Samsung LCD, as good as any non-studio recorded HD content. But this is only a temporary solution. You'll need to empty memory to take more video's, right? I wanted to get the best video from this camcorder and it is all about conversion of MTS to H.264. There are different solutions for Mac and Windows users. Keep reading.
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PC users:
- You can use supplied by Sony PMB Software to burn your original HiDef files to REGULAR, not a Blue Ray DVD-R!!!! This is awesome for someone who already has Blue Ray player anf HDTV! I repeat, they can be burned on regular DVD burner, to normal DVD-R, and then played in the Blue Ray player in full glory, with no quality loss, which can occur in conversions to other formats. I made disk like that, and tried it out - and I can assure you - it is real HD video! No motion blur, no hiccups, all is PERFECT! Looks like BlueRay players have much better hardware to handle HD content. You can AVCHD DVD directly from camera, or from movies you copied to the comp harddrive. For each movie event I create separate folder, and later PMB need to 'analyze' each folder befor disk burn.(By the way, when PMB burning disk, you will see that MTS format is converted to H.264). It is in a Manual too.
- One more way: You can install XVID (free) plugin and you can perfectly play original uncorverted MTS files via Windows Media Player!!!!
- Another way: you can get DIVX 7 Pro for mere $[...] ([...]) and convert to MKV, or DIVX PLUS HD format, which can be easily played on PC and Mac computers. DIVX player is free, is that Pro version, which has converter is not free...
- If you have slightly outdated Core 2 Duo comp - make sure you get more memory (4GB+, and better video card with HD support, like Nvidia 9000 series DDR3 /Direct X 10/Open GL2.x)
- Allegedly Windows 7 should have better HiDef support and most of the codexes... will see.
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Mac Users:
- Sony providing PMB software for PC user only. Get over it. But actually, Mac user have even better solution, not free though...
- You can get Mac version of DIVX player also for $[...] and convert MTS to something more user friendly.
- Or, (My choice) you can shell out $[...]+tax for Elgato Turbo.264 HD USB/hardware based encoder/accelerator ([...]), and convert MTS to h.264, then store them on external haddrive
- Quick Time Pro 7 can be used for playing H.264 movies! Again, they can be burned on regular DVD-R for BlueRay players. You also, can connect your Mac via MiniDisplay Port /HDMI adaptopr ([...]) to any HDTV or projector for bigger trill.
- PS: MacConnection catalog now is listing this CX100, so you see - it is OK, it is safe to get Sony HDR CX100! :)
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Finally, if you don't have any stinkin' computer, or all what you got is one of those anemic 'netbooks' and you still want Canon, or Sony H.264 camcorder - No problem. At Costco, for $[...] you can get standalone Sony DVDirect MC5 DVD recorder (not a Blue Ray disk recorder, regular DVD's) and connect it by USB cable. You can make AVCHD disks readable by Blue Ray players. Never tried myself, just repeating what Manual says :). Canon also has similar device, but it looks like it is making only analog, not HD DVD's. So, all you will need is: Camcorder/MC5 recorder/Stack of DVD-Rs (which cost on average ~$[...] each)/new BlueRay Player/720p, or 1080p LCD or Plasma HDTV. That's it!

MY OBSERVATIONS and recommendations after first week of playing around.
1. ALWAYS record in highest possible resolution [HD FH].
2. Set color to X.V. COLOR!!! (if you have Sony Blue Ray player/and HDTV supporting that (Sony, Panasonic...) you can have advantage of enhanced colors). But it may be better turn it OFF in really sunny day. Colors might be way saturated (red/blue/yellow) almost fluorescent. And even with x.v.color off - believe me, camera will produce very nice video! And use of x.v. color could be very beneficial for cloudy days, or for dimmer lighting.
3. Make sure that you have image stabilization (STEADYSHOT) tuned ON!
4. ...all other settings I have on Auto. You choose yours.
5. There is bunch of useful presets like Beach, Landscape, Soft Portrait ... I have to check it out yet.
6. Camera is very light, so you'd better hold it steady, or attach it to something. I have small tabletop tripod (~$[...]) and I have it attached to the bottom - it works for me like an extra handle.
7. Even when camera is on a tripod - pan (sweep left/right) as slowly and smoothly as you can. Many people have to learn this, because some report excessive blur - it not worse than much more expensive camcorders. It is YOU - you need to learn how to "drive" your new toy. Eventually, it will come to you, no worries.
8. Get a Polarizer, or UV filter - to see through the glare of glass or water. This is VERY nice thing to have on a bright sunny day!
9. Tripods? I have Slik Compact XL, light and good for travel. Works for me. But much better is Manfrotto 190XDB I saw for $[...] at bestbuy... Very solid built, and smooth panning.

RECIPIE to get best video (This is true for ALL camcorders, and digital cameras):
- Try to get as close as possible to object you are filming. I think, best range is 2 - 20 ft. Next best is 20-50 feet
- Do not shoot in the dusk/dark. Film in well lit conditions. Try to have sun, or source of light behind you, not in front of you (unless you are shooting Hawaiian sunset... :) In low light - this camera is about the same as any other one's, if not better. Do not listen to purists about low light "performance".
- Turn OFF that "Digital Zoom"! 10x of OPTICAL zoom is more than enough for most conditions. Beyond that you will get big quality degradation. Try to apply less zoom as possible. Besides, "digital" zoom is using camera sensor, reducing resolution to get higher zoom. NOT good!
- Less zoom will make a big difference (unless camera on a tripod) for Image Stabilization, it will work better. Try, and you will see how is difficult to hold camera still on far zoom range...
- U can use Wide Angle adapter, I got ~$[...] Sony VCL-0630X through Pricegrabber and it is just... OK. At max zoom, corners will be blurred a bit. You can find better one for $[...] (Sony VCL-HGA07).

CONCLUSION: There are better camcorders over there. I really like new Canon HF S100... But it is around ~900! And this cutie, for under 460 --- it can be beat! And even in a "pocket" size - it is real Hi Definition camcorder, just use it to full capacity! Later on, when I become a PRO cameraman, and have tons of money (3500-4000) - I will definitely go for a Scarlet from RED ([...]). But now -- I'm happy with CX100. When I get decent video's I will post it on [...].

... Phew, I'm tired of typing. Just go and get it.
UPDATE: I just saw Pricegrabber's new super deal - 455 at [...]! That's $[...] less than I paid)
You'all have a good time!
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Initial post: Jun 23, 2009 5:52:18 AM PDT
pavel says:
Exellent review!!! Thank you! Do you know anything about SAMSUNG R10 or SAMSUNG hmx-h106? Not technical,but about picture quality?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 23, 2009 10:00:08 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 23, 2009 10:23:12 PM PDT
Georgio says:
Hi Pavel,

I'm not a big Samsung camera and camcorder fan. They have cool designs and features, but all Samsung digital cameras have higher than usual noise levels and other oddities. Check out these sites for digital cameras: dpreview; dcresource; imaging-resource. And for camcorders reviews camcorderinfo. I never had any Samsung camera myself, and I have my opinion based on reviews couple decent websites, they have sample images and doing comparising to cameras from other manufacturers, so I think it will be fair to say that Samsung still in the 'learning curve' mode... but it is improving very fast. As of today, for myself - I would not bought a Samsung camera/camcorder. Simply because there are better options... (Sorry, Samsung, nothing personal, I'm not trying to put you down... :) So, Pavel it will be better if you check these websites and make decision by yourself. Latest Samsung camcorders are very decent, and if their drawbacks are not an issue for your needs - that might work for you. I intentionaly did not typed www and com, to avoid blocking by censors - you need to add them when typing URL...

Looks like SAMSUNG hmx-h106 is very nice camcorder, but still very expensive. It is in the same price range like new Canon HF S100... as for me, I would choose a Canon. But you need to look at the reviews and samples. Also go to Samsung and Canon websites and compare features. Choose what are most interesting for YOUR needs. I remembered one more thing, check vimeo.com - people posting samples of HD videos over there. you also may get better ideas of how camcorders perform.

I think that HD video is well ... HD. And most important factors that coming to play are better optics, better (and larger) sensors, good video processing engines, good Optical Image Stabilization, ability to hold focus, and switch to Manual Focus. And perks like wireless remote control/jack for external microphone and light... etc. It just happen to be a Canon HF S100, who has most of 'goodies' :) Have Fun, Pavel. It will be agonizing week or two of decisionmaking, but you will make it. You have good info, I think...

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Posted on Jul 1, 2009 12:42:22 AM PDT
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Posted on Jul 1, 2009 12:48:49 PM PDT
Georgio says:
Sorry for "Kid's review" in header, actually submitting my review I must have accidentally clicked option that "I'm under 18". I'm not... I'm way older :)
I have more info and EXCITING news. For all PC and Mac users and Folks without a computer. There is a company mvix, which just started selling nice device ULTIO, which they claim - PLAYS ALL AUDIO/VIDEO/AVCHD formats. And even ISO images of DVD movies!!!! I went to the website (www.mvixusa.com) and downloaded and printed manual and will seriously consider getting one for living room. This thing CAN PLAY NATIVE MTS FILES from CX100!!!! I'm not sure how smoothly, will see. There are 2 options, you can get one with Harddrive inside($170). Second, with 1TB harddrive ( ~300). Cool thing is that you DO NOT have to have internal harddrive, you can just attach any external HD via USB2 port and it will play all stuff. If this device really works like advertised - this could be excellent hub for all my stored videos. Check it out for yourself. PS: when I clicked Buy Now and went to the mvix store, this thig was already sold out. It would be interesting to read first buyers reviews.

Posted on Jul 2, 2009 1:50:51 PM PDT
Jenni says:
Loved your review- I even printed it so I can use it later. I just bought this online and haven't received it yet. I have an old PC and no DVD burner on it, so I am looking at getting a newer laptop. Any recommendations or things I should make sure to get on a laptop to help me make HD DVD's? Also, I have a JVC DR-M100 DVD Player/recorder, can I connect my camera to the HDTV and record onto my DVD Player/Recorder? If so, how does the quality compare? If you know. Thank you again for your review, it is very helpful.
My JVC DR-M100 has a "DV in outlet", is this something that this camera will use?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2009 12:16:23 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 11, 2009 10:57:28 PM PDT
Georgio says:
Thanks, Jenni.

- Nope, you cannot connect CX100 to HDTV, play video and record it to JVC recorder. There is NO Video OUT on any HDTV, they ALL have only analog, or optical (5.1 channel stereo) Audio out.
- Nope, you cannot use DV-in connector. I looked online at the manual, and this is JVC analog camcorders connector. That's 'yesterday's' way to connect. Sony CX100 does not have it. :)

You can connect CX100 to your JVC DVD recorder. But you will have to use Component cables (the one having 3 plugs Red/Blue/Green) and audio cable (Red/White). You can make a DVD, quality will be good, but that will get you so called "DVD" quality, which still is NOT a High Definition (that is 1/2 of what was recorded by CX100). After all, major reason to have a HiDef Camcorder is to record and watch High Def videos, right? So, to get that, you can use ONLY HDMI cable. Or, USB cable connection. Your JVC recorder does not support that, because it is analog device. I 'retired' mine thing like that and got Sony BR player. They still expensive 150-200... Sorry,.. to see real High Def video, you will need computer with DVD burner (and use Sony PMB software to create AVCHD disk)(make sure you go to "Settings/Disk Creation/Output Video Format= 1080/60i"). If your computer has not DVD burner, you can get one for really cheap 30-40 - see newegg.com. DVD-R Disks are very cheap too. So, if you got DVD burner, and burned your video in AVCHD format, and you have BR player, you will need HDTV to watch it. Please keep in mind, that get REAL HD experience you will need to connect all devices with right cables - HDMI cables. Do NOT pay 60-70 for these, go to monoprice.com - they are very inexpensive there. Make sure, that cables you are getting are "Category 2" - these are better one's. Monoprice have even special cables- standard HDMI on one end and Mini HDMI on other - this is great for connecting CX100. If you cannot find one, there are adapters from normal HDMI to MiniHDMI.

For newer desktops, there are internal Blue Ray recorders for ~160 - newegg.com, but BR disks are ~7 each, and are not so reliable yet. There are some reports that they tend to develop microcracks... I would wait for them to improve. But if you have BR recorder, why not to use them? :)

And, if you are looking for new laptop, look for the one with Blue Ray BURNER (they are backward compatible with normal DVD's), and most of memory possible (4GB will be nice), 2.4 Hz processor or higher. Harddrive is not that important ~200GB is fine, but for storing HiDef videos it is better to get an External USB harddrive ~1TB in size. Also what is important - make sure that your new laptop has a HDMI out jack!!!!!! Then, you can burn DVD-R, and have laptop connected to HDTV to play it big screen. I do not looked around for new laptops, but I read in the news that Sony is upgrading NW laptops and adding Blue Ray BURNERS. These should be inexpensive models (http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-18301-Sony+Updates+Thier+Vaio+NW+in+Japan.html). Also, now you can get Sony FW laptop with Blue Ray Burner and HDMI out, for ~1200. Probably, HP and others offer the same thing. Make sure that laptop has Blue Ray RECORDER, some of them just a PLAYERS... Check pricegrabber, newegg and amazon for good deals online.

UPDATE:.........................................................
-- I thought it was 'only me', when I had an impression that basically ALL regular computers (PC/Mac) are NOT good for playing AVCHD content, in any format... They are simply a tad SLOW. Even nicely tuned up and snappy computers (like I have) are lagging comparing to standalone BlueRay player! I do not have high end and super fast gaming rig, those will be handling AVCHD movies better. But I'm positive now that all current comp models are NOT ready hardware wise for AVCHD! And as a proof of that I see that industry is addressing this issue and for new laptops (and even NetBooks!) adding HARDWARE based support - ability to handle HD video as it is intended! I read that upcoming OEM F88 Netbook(!); Acer Timeline 1910T; and HP 110[this will have new video card with chip for HD support] will have chips dedicated to High Definition Video playback/encoding. Nice! Too bad Apple is totally quiet on this very important issue and not mentioned dedicated HD support on new 2009 MacBooks... this is strange. Is Apple 'losing grip'? Hope, they are working quietly on this and we will see improved things in 2010. So, if you on the market for new PC/Mac - DO NOT BUY it yet!!!! Wait for models with dedicated Hardware based HD support, and installed BlueRay RECORDER (not just players) drives. When people get that - all will be lined up nicely, CX100 + Nice Laptop + Large HDTV (or projector)(standalone BR PLayer - optional). Cool, huh? :]

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