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5.0 out of 5 stars An important part of a life-saving tool kit, January 5, 2005
This review is from: Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions (Hardcover)
One way to confront a problem with alcohol is to get to an Alcholics Anonymous meeting, get a sponsor, work through the "Big Book" & read this book, probably in that order.

The "12 & 12" offers insight into the 12 Steps beyond that found in the Big Book. It's thought-provoking & helpful for anyone in recovery.

At heart, some may come to realize that they're confronting as much a living problem as an alcohol problem & that the Steps (11 of which do not mention booze) offer a better way of life.

AA is not the only way to recover, but it has proven effective for millions around the world facing a problem with a high relapse rate & lousy prognosis. Anyone who's reached their wit's end with alcohol will find help in AA. The program has no religious requirement, & its members do not tell anyone what to believe. They only suggest a person be willing to believe in a power greater than themself, a god of their understanding. For all anyone cares, this could be a pet dog, as long as it's something to remove the notion that the person is at the center of the universe.

AA has been successful for decades, it is the model for all other 12 Step programs & it is the foundation of much recovery. The program helps members who follow the 12 Steps to restore their self-worth through practicing integrity. It encourages members to let go of self-pity about perceived wrongs done them, accept responsibility for their own lives, acknowledge their pasts & (& this is key) move on. Above all, it encourages living in the present rather than in the past or the future ... thus increasing the odds that one will actually live.

This book is one outstanding part of an arsenal available to alcoholics who want to see their disease go into remission. For anyone who finds the program not to their taste, a return to drinking is always an option.
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Initial post: Mar 5, 2007 7:52:43 AM PST
Zulu Warrior says:
ok, but if it's a higher power that's involved, why does AA get the credit??

If AA is a disease, why is it called spiritual program??? It's not curing alcoholism like it makes claims it does.

The A.A. founder Bill Wilson declared that alcoholism is a "spiritual disease" that is caused by
1. sins,
2. moral shortcomings,
3. wrongs,
4. defects of character,
5. resentments,
6. instincts run wild,
7. character defects, representing instincts gone astray,
8. self,
9. self-will run riot,
10. desires that have far exceeded their intended purpose,
11. The Seven Deadly Sins
12. a willful and irresponsible ego,
13. failure to practice religious precepts properly,
14. failure to practice Step Five properly,
15. selfishness,
16. self-seeking,
17. self-centeredness,
18. more selfishness
19. defective relations,
20. nagging wives,
21. nagging wives again, "throwing her husband into a fit of anger"
22. serious character flaws,
23. faith that isn't accompanied by "self-sacrifice and unselfish, constructive action",
24. personal secrets that we have not confessed,
25. inherited genes or inherited sins, and
26. conditions that we couldn't correct to our entire satisfaction,
27. another unconfessed personal secret...
Notice that drinking alcohol is not on that list. Bill Wilson considered everything but drinking alcohol to be the real cause of alcoholism:
"Our liquor was but a symptom." (The Big Book, William G. Wilson, page 64.)
"After all, our problems were of our own making. Bottles were only a symbol." (The Big Book, William G. Wilson, page 103.)
A.A. began as a branch of another cult religion called "The Oxford Group", which was the creation of an evil fascist renegade Lutheran minister named Dr. Frank Nathan Daniel Buchman, who actually admired Adolf Hitler and praised the Gestapo leader Heinrich Himmler as a "wonderful lad".

The cofounders of Alcoholics Anonymous, William Griffith Wilson and Dr. Robert Holbrook Smith, were both enthusiastic true-believer members of the Oxford Group cult, and they simply adapted Buchmanism to their own ends when they created Alcoholics Anonymous. For all practical purposes, Alcoholics Anonymous is simply Frank Buchman's cult religion dressed up in a different suit of clothes.

The A.A. religion pushes a concept of God that is worse than medieval.
According to A.A., God is a fascist dictator, an authoritarian, vindictive Old-Testament-style patriarchal God Who will kill you with a painful slow death by alcoholism if you don't
believe in Him, and
constantly confess your sins to Him, and
grovel before Him, and
Seek and Do His Will every day.
According to Bill Wilson, God uses "the lash of alcoholism" to force people into the A.A. religion, where they will find endless "Serenity and Gratitude" while working as slaves of God.

The Twelve Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous are not "spiritual principles", they are cult practices that Bill Wilson got from Dr. Frank Buchman's Oxford Groups. The Twelve Steps are a recipe for building a cult religion, not a formula for quitting drinking:
The Twelve Steps do not even tell you to quit drinking, or to help anyone else to quit drinking, either.
The Twelve Steps don't even mention sobriety, recovery, or health, but they do mention surrender to the cult, and going recruiting for the cult, and guilt-inducing confession sessions.
The 12 Steps also mention God, directly or indirectly, in 6 of the 12 steps. The Ten Commandments of Judeo-Christian religions mention God fewer times than that -- only 4 or 5 of the 10 commandments refer to God, directly or indirectly1 -- but the A.A. true believers still insist that A.A. is not a religion.
Seven of the 12 steps, Steps Four through Ten, are designed to induce guilt in members by having them make long lists of every sin they ever committed, and every fault, moral shortcoming, and defect of character they have, and then they have to confess it all to another member and God. Then they make another list of everybody they ever hurt or offended, and confess that, and try to make amends. And then they have to repeat the whole process again, and again, for the rest of their lives.
The Twelve Steps tell people to surrender their wills and their lives to "God" or "Higher Power" or the A.A. group, and to pray to "God" or "Higher Power" or the A.A. group, and then the Twelve Steps tell people how to pray and what to pray for, but the A.A. true believers still insist that A.A. is not a religion.

Twelve-Step enthusiasts declare that the Twelve Steps, just like good old-fashioned snake oil, will cure anybody of anything. They claim that the Twelve Steps are equally applicable to everybody from drug addicts to gamblers, from compulsive shoppers to emotional wrecks to rape victims, from divorcees to diabetics, from schizophrenics to fat people. The 12 steps really do have just as much to do with being a rape victim as they have to do with being an alcoholic -- absolutely nothing.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2007 7:51:12 PM PDT
If you don't like it why not just ignore it? Why the need to attack something that works for millions of people?

Posted on Dec 25, 2007 9:21:23 AM PST
T. Patterson says:
'For anyone who finds the program not to their taste, a return to drinking is always an option.'----- Or, perhaps, one might involve themselves in a path to recovery that works for them? Just a thought.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2014 12:02:21 AM PST
Sugafoot says:
Zulu Warrior, if ur a warrior please tell me ur MOS or Rating where did you polish belt buckles?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 1, 2015 10:57:05 AM PDT
J. Wade says:
I agree. The funny thing is that I was intently taking in what was being said by that commenter, and then when I read that final comment (or jab), everything they said fell completely useless to me. Bravo! What a way to ruin your entire point with just a few words....these types are what I'm already convinced fill up those AA meetings - thanks for solidifying.
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