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2.0 out of 5 stars Ooops, he was wrong, April 24, 2012
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This review is from: The Revenge of Gaia: Earth's Climate Crisis & The Fate of Humanity (Paperback)
At least he can admit being wrong:

"The problem is we don't know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books - mine included - because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn't happened."

"The climate is doing its usual tricks. There's nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now."

"The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time... it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising -- carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that."

- James Lovelock, 2012

"All right, I made a mistake." He claimed a university or government scientist might fear an admission of a mistake would lead to the loss of funding.

But not to worry - "He said he still thought that climate change was happening, but that its effects would be felt farther in the future than he previously thought."

His alarmism has caused billions to be wasted on useless spending, while millions go hungry. Of course, this fits in with alarmist goals of reducing human population.
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Initial post: Apr 24, 2012 4:31:39 PM PDT
"His alarmism has caused billions to be wasted on useless spending, while millions go hungry. Of course, this fits in with alarmist goals of reducing human population. "

Looks like someone is doing their part to fight the Green Dragon! Sorry that a scientist changing their position on a subject such as climate change is so infuriating. Mind you he was wrong about the time line...nit about the actual concept of global warming. The Koch brothers were kind enough to prove that theory for us.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 2:28:47 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 25, 2012 2:30:46 PM PDT
Your case about the timeline is pointless. Say that the timeline is 1m yrs, or even 10k yrs, would that warrant the level of regulations placed on the economy right now? I agree that AGW is real, but if it causes the planet to warm 1 degree per 100 years, I'd feel a hell of a lot less panicky about doing anything to curb it.

Recall that in the 70's the socalled climate "scientists" believed the planet was entering a freezing mode.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 25, 2012 2:58:41 PM PDT
Grimmy says:
"Sorry that a scientist changing their position on a subject such as climate change is so infuriating."

Infuriating to whom? Don't be sorry ... at least he had the freedom to admit he was wrong, unlike the thousands of climatologists whose livelihood depends on claiming global warming.

"Mind you he was wrong about the time line...nit about the actual concept of global warming."

Well, it depends on what you mean. The Medieval Warm Period (MWP), certainly. Not the decade-long cooling of late.

Alarmism works like this. Claim there's a huge problem. Then, before it can be debunked, demand billions in spending to fix it. Why? So when the threat doesn't materialize, you can claim to have warded it off, and be seens as a hero, rather than a fool.

Fortunately we have had the chance to see AGW is hopelessly wrong, although we have wasted far too much on it already ... plus the failed green energy policies in Europe, who are now turning to coal and nuclear (like China). I guess they're really worried about AGW.

Or, perhaps ... "On November 20, 2000, then French President Chirac said during a speech at The Hague that the UN's Kyoto Protocol represented 'the first component of an authentic global governance.'"

"Former EU Environment Minister Margot Wallstrom said, 'Kyoto is about the economy, about leveling the playing field for big businesses worldwide.'"

Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister: "No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits.... climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world."

Club of Rome: "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention....and thus the "real enemy, then, is humanity itself....believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is "a real one or....one invented for the purpose."

Stephen Schneider, Stanford Univ., environmentalist: "That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have."

Makes me ... skeptical.
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