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great fan of Eric Fleming,
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Love all of Rawhide, just wish they would realize Eric Fleming was THE star of the show. He died early in his career so everyone thinks Clint Eastwood was the star, but he wasn't. Will buy Season seven, but not season eight.
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Initial post: Jul 7, 2013 9:39:17 AM PDT
Elliott Skinner says:
I totally agree with you. It's a shame that Eric Fleming's major claim to fame is diminished to second fiddle to marketers. Eric made the show as Gil Favor and as much as i loved Clint as Rowdy, he couldn't carry the show on his own. We were fortunate enough to see the show during it's run and we know who the real star of the show was. The good news is that the newcomers to the show can judge for themselves and see just how great an actor Eric Fleming really was.
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 11, 2013 7:59:47 AM PDT
The only benefits of season 8 are that it had one really great episode (with guest star Charles Bronson). Seeing Bronson and Eastwood as opposed forces is magnificent. Second, with only a total of 13 episodes in season 8, there won't be a second volume.
Posted on Oct 22, 2013 4:09:34 PM PDT
Lady of the West says:
I agree also. The show floundered without Eric Fleming's fantastic portrayal of Gil Favor. I look forward to getting Season 7 when it comes out. I'm not interested in Season 8.
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D. J. Williams says:
Rubbish Lyle, his bickerings saved the show, his insistence on better scripts, Gil Favor was the better character as Eastwood has acknowledged. Eastwood has also said that Fleming was responsible for keeping the show going so long plus arranging decent conditions for the rest of the staff. If he destroyed the show that was because he had departed and without him it was not popular and axed. He knew it was coming to it's end. He suffered a tragic death and is best remembered for a superb performance as Trail Boss Gil favor. Also how do you know that he was filming a second rate movie? It was a Disney production for TV, so I would think it was more than second rate? Why , looking at your posts do you always look for an argument or try to upset people?
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I believe the head of the network so detested the show without Eric Fleming he personally axed it...!
It's like a number of other top shows, the Leading cast member WAS the show allowing other key figurehead characters to flourish and embellish the thing
Eric Fleming WAS Rawhide, while Clint Eastwood was the 'figurehead' co-star capable of carrying episodes on his own, but not THE central figure (as also earlier was Sheb Woolley's 'Pete Nolan', even 'Wishbone' was a key supporting figure given the odd episode)
you could compare it with shows later like 'Mission: Impossible' or 'The Man From UNCLE etc where a key figurehead (say Martin Landau/Leonard Nimoy or David McCallum) might be very important & capable of taking over as lead occasionally...but Steven Hill/Peter Graves or Robert Vaughn WERE the central lead character those other shows 'figurehead' co-star characters revolved around - ('Mission' soon got into difficulties when Steven Hill was absent from episodes too much hence the switch to Peter Graves from season two)
Eric Fleming had an unhappy childhood which might explain his 'very serious' rarely smiling look (when he smiled his face 'lit up' !) and he was perfect as widower Gil Favor a very strict but fair boss whom the men (notably young Rowdy Yates) looked up too
minus Fleming the show was effectively 'headless' as Rowdy despite being prepared to be a future trail boss was never seen to develop the 'steel' authority required and with Fleming's abrupt and unplanned exit the show was left rudderless with Rowdy just 'pushed up' to trail boss.
I think the writers were running out of ideas in the main too by 1966, and the quick change of various producers hinted at behind the scenes problems (initial producer Charles Marquis Warren had understood the show best)
it's a pity Eric Fleming departed as he was really irreplaceable as the Trail boss.
Fleming also starred in the Doris Day comedy 'The Glass Bottom Boat' - nicely playing the villain & was in a few episodes of 'Bonanza' around that time, so his career had not nose dived at all, tho' he was possibly thinking about retiring from acting (& planned to marry), prior to his tragic loss in Peru.
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