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5.0 out of 5 stars The Real Deal--He Should Campaign on Substance in 2008, April 20, 2008
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This is my first Jesse Ventura book and I am deeply impressed. This man is the real deal, honest, straight-up, with plenty of common sense. His ideal running mate is not John McCain or Robert Kennedy Jr. but rather the star of The Average American: The Extraordinary Search for the Nation's Most Ordinary Citizen. I would gladly serve these solid citizens in a staff capacity.

The book lacks an index, while offering plenty of balanced outrage. This is a serious person who sees all that is wrong with America, and who would have no problem agreeing with the authors of Running On Empty: How The Democratic and Republican Parties Are Bankrupting Our Future and What Americans Can Do About It; or Breach of Trust: How Washington Turns Outsiders Into Insiders.

A few of my notes from this captivating book and personality:

+ "Special interests have a stranglehold on our reality. Nobody is being told the truth."

+ Castro told him JFK assassination was an inside job. See Someone Would Have Talked: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy and the Conspiracy to Mislead History for confirmation--CIA trained team of Cuban exiles in revenge for Bay of Pigs

+ Reform Party was bogus, Perot let his ego run away with his brain

+ Buchanan hijacked the Reform Party and looted its treasury to pay off his old campaign debts

+ Both political parties are gangs

+ Organized religion is a business milking people like cows for their milk (money)

+ Down on NAFTA

+ Bush-Cheney passing federal laws that prevent states from protecting their own citizens properly from corporate predation

+ 9/11 Commission a cover-up, just as the Warren Commission was--government lies to the people (e.g. Gulf of Tonkin incident, simply cannot be trusted

+ CIA has embedded case officers within state and local governments

+ Positive on Ralph Nader as an honest person bringing up issues the two criminal parties will not raise

+ Properly faults Bush-Cheney for ignoring intelligence and privatizing war while bankrupting the Nation---if not impeachable, should at least be commitable to an insane asylum (see my lists on impeachment and holding Dick Cheney accountable, at least take a look at Vice: Dick Cheney and the Hijacking of the American Presidency

+ There IS a ruling class, not sure of its composition, we have to take the country back from them

+ Electoral college is long overdue for termination.

+ O'Reilly, all of those talking heads are scripted, media is about generating cash through entertainment, not about informing the citizenry

+ FCC fines broadcasters and others but they are appointed, not elected, and not accountable for their subjective definition of what is obscene

+ "Revisionist history troubles me deeply." page 265. This is the point where I decide this guy is a serious and qualified candidate to be our president.

+ 27 years of Bushes and Clintons, time for an independent party nominee to win and lead

+ National Guard should stay home.

+ Citing Mussolini, fascism is the marriage of corporations and religion. We have that here, now.

+ Need term limits on reporters, not just politicians. Reflects a profound disdain for Minnesota reporters.

I put the book down at the end of a very long very rainy day feeling good about this author, his independence of mind, his integrity. In combination with Blessed Unrest: How the Largest Social Movement in History Is Restoring Grace, Justice, and Beau; Society's Breakthrough!: Releasing Essential Wisdom and Virtue in All the People; The Tao of Democracy: Using Co-Intelligence to Create a World That Works for All; and Collective Intelligence: Creating a Prosperous World at Peace, I have a very strong feeling that the national immune system is going to kick in and finally out these frauds that pretend our elections are honest and meaningful.

It's a real shame Ralph Nader does not play well with others. I'm going to get in touch with Jesse Ventura and urge him to form a Transpartisan Sunshine Cabinet that can create a balanced budget by the 4th of July 2008. He does not have to run for President, all he has to do is set the standard by which we can judge the fradulence of "the system" candidates. For those enchanted by Barack Obama, as I was until I saw his dishonest advisors, see Obama - The Postmodern Coup: Making of a Manchurian Candidate.
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Initial post: Apr 28, 2008 1:32:52 PM PDT
Good review.

I find it odd, though, that the same man who thinks that the 9/11 and Warren Commissions are cover-ups is deeply troubled by Revisionist history.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2008 1:44:53 PM PDT
Two types of revisionist history: cover up, and illuminating. Thanks for commenting.

Posted on May 2, 2008 10:54:29 AM PDT
Lyn says:
Unfortunately Jesse is too little too late. The Revolution HAS already started a year ago: "The Ron Paul Revolution". If Mr ex-Governer Ventura would've come back to the real world a few months ago and join forces with us, WE the People might have had a fighting chance with a very prime third party. But like he said on Larry King: It's too late to get on ballots now. Could you imagine the money bomb for this party: Paul/Ventura 2008?????

Posted on May 4, 2008 11:18:41 PM PDT
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Posted on May 8, 2008 5:50:13 PM PDT
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cvairag says:
Hold it. Mussolini defined fascism as ". . . the perfect union between the corporate (actually in those days industrialist) interest and government". Thus, the italian. You or Ventura has got it wrong. Also, there are lots of good reasons for Nadar not to ally with Paul or Perot. Nadar sees the root problem as neo-liberalist corporate anarchy. He sees the solution as getting corporate money and interest OUT of government, out of elections, out of the taxpayers pockets, out of the media through vastly increased government regulation. His priorities: clean-up corporate crime (increase the SEC budget threefold - halt destructive industries such as nuclear and prison-construction) and radicalize environmental standards and enforcement. Government is regulation. No matter how loudmouthed right wing media noisemakers and devotees of Ayn Rand and Von Mises would like to deny it, them's da facts. Think Perot and Paul are coming to dinner anytime soon, Bobby? Ventura is something of a moderate and, despite his appearance and cultivated bravura, not nearly the mensch that Scott Ritter is, and imo, would not make half the fantasy-league president. But to maybe get real, tainted as he is, Al Gore might be a third party candidate with enough name recognition to win. After all, he won in 2000.

In reply to an earlier post on May 9, 2008 5:10:37 AM PDT
Two years ago Jim Turner, Naderite #2, told me that we should create our participatory democracy without regard to who might win any given election. Now I see the wisdom of his point. Ron Paul would be my leader IF AND ONLY IF he were willing to play well with others, which he is not. He could have embraced Nader and Jesse Ventura and others (e.g. Kirkpatrick Sale, facilitator for the 27 secessionist movements across America) but he refused to entertain any outreach notions. Ron Paul, not Jesse Ventura, is to blame for fizzling out.

By the same token, I am not giving up. While I was enthralled by Senator Obama, to the point of going to Des Moines and slipping a memorandum under his door, I soon found out that his campaign manager, his strategic advisor, even Oprah Winfrey, are all captives of the system. Behyind them are advisors like Dr. Strangelove II (Brzezinski) who is a rapid Pole that wants one last shot at hurting Russia and is delusional in thinking he can "block" China from anything.

In my view, Jesse Ventura does not need to run and win. He can be virtual President for the rest of us. All he has to do is invite the man featured in "The Average American" (or me if he wants a killer with an attitude) to be Vice President, we create a transpartisan Cabinet, we publish a balanced budget, and the we body slam each of these three turkeys everytime they fail to be substantive, which is always.

For Obama and Clinton to be talking about gas tax relief for the summer instead of a Manhattan project to reach the two way grid WIRED Magazine featured on the cover story the same month Cheney was meeting secretly with Enron and Exxon to plot the invasion of both Afghanistan and Iraq, tells me all I need to know: all three of these folks are offering platitudes and promises they cannot keep. McCain could still be saved but ONLY if he is willing to create a new Constitutionalist Party that restores power to the people beginning with the eight-point Electoral Reform Act that he should introduce NOW, in time to give us instant run-offs and voting for the poor on a holiday.

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2008 10:55:15 AM PDT
Kameelyun says:
Very enlightening comments as always, Dr. Steele.

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2008 3:48:53 PM PDT
Robert, please. And no PhD (yet).

Posted on Jun 2, 2008 3:05:49 AM PDT
Ventura is for COMPLETELY OPEN borders with Mexico and Canada so I will stick with Ron Paul. Thanks but no thanks, Ventura

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2008 3:38:49 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 2, 2008 3:41:25 AM PDT
I think the area where we could all agree is that the kinds of points everyone is raising should be the primary substance of the presidential campaign, and not limited to the Amazon comments section. There are two realities coliding: the false reality of the "Weapons of Mass Deception" and "Manufacturing Consent," and the emerging true reality of Cognitive Dissonance and Integral Consciousness finding new power in Collective (Public) Intelligence.

I will be the first to admit complete incompetence in the art of politics, which is *supposed* to be about how society makes decisions in the public arena where the marketplace and its information asymmetries guarantee the concentration of wealth and the disenfranchisement of roughly three fifths to four fifths of our population, depending on the degree to which you believe in the corrupt two party spoils system.

Bottom line: NONE OF THE ABOVE (candidates) is the right answer, We the People are the only right answer, but all of the above candidates must be heard in the electoral process and that is not happening. We have a spouse who could not solve health care with the full power of the presidency, a House Negro according to his own people of color, too slick by half; and a violently angry McBush follow-on whose heart is in the right place, but who refuses to contemplate a transpartisan cabinet or announcing a balanced budget in advance. Those "choices" are not choices at all, any one of the three is a continuation of business as unusual.

Afterthought: I almost connected with Ventura via the author of Spoiling for a Fight, but that author could not handle 9-11 truth and chose to take himself out of the loop with a "life is too short" commentary. Too many Americans have not learned to think for themselves, to question authority, or to demand open appreciative inquiry. We have lost the Republic for that reason.
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