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Canon what are you up to?,
This review is from: Canon EOS 6D 20.2 MP CMOS Digital SLR Camera with 3.0-Inch LCD and EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM Lens Kit - Wi-Fi Enabled (Electronics)
Updated on 12/30/12
I got this camera last week, I do like 6D itself, if you don't compare to D600, not to mention D600 kit below 2k.
Canon really try to take away as many functions and performance as possible and test our limit.
The only reason I am still using Canon is because I had a Canon APSC and I don't want to sell all my lenses, also I like the colors Canon produces too.
6D itself is nice nevertheless. The construction is more than enough for a amateur. My 40D can handle Alaska trip and snowboarding photography no problem, so I expect 6D will be better.
Some people worry about the top being plastic, it doesnot feel like plastic at all, you won't notice it if you didn't know ahead.
AF at night is slightly better than 40D, but I won't describe as fast. In the morning they perform equally.
Pros: compare to 40D
Small, light, with Wifi and GPS.
Able to shoot Movie.
Screen size and colors.
Cons: compare to D600
11 AF points
No build in Flash light !!!!
1 slot SD Card
No headphone jack.
1 axis electronic level (d600 has 2)
lower frame rate
No hot shoe cover
No LCD Screen cover
No light sensitive LCD (No auto-brightness)
Live view setup time longer than D600
Silent mode cannot control when to release mirror.
D600 has more info display in viewfinder ex: AF, remain pictures available, light meter mode (center, bracket ...), & flashlight!!
Pros vs D600:
No Oil/Dust-issue risk yet. (Better quality control?)
-3 EV AF
Compare to D600 minus the lens which is only ~1500, there is almost NO reason to buy 6D if you are new to photography. You might say you don't need function xxx or this or that, but its like you are willing to pay a toyota for a price of BMW and claiming you dont need the horse power and navigation.
Overall, 6D gets the job done and actually decently, but it is not an exciting camera when competitors are able to offer more.
Don't tell me you don't compare cost and performance when you buy a car or electronics.
If it was ~$100 to $200 lower than D600 I would recommend this and gave it 5 star.
***I have to address here, Canon also lock your none-factory battery. You can still use it, but it won't show on the battery meter.
Also the charger will not show you if it is fully charged or not. I left two of my generic batteries on my Canon charger for whole night and it still showed 75% (indicator flashing) charged.
anyone has this problem?
Handling: size is smaller than 40D and 5D3, I don't have big hands, 40D fit perfectly in my hand, 6D is still pretty good, but 5D3 is too heavy and bulky.
Construction/interface: 40D is more solid, I don't really like the 2 dials designs in 6D, the inner dial is very plastic and not responsive. The "Play" and "Magnify" buttons are a bit confusing there. 40D/5D3 joystick is more favorable.
But, 6D is still 100x better than those rebel series for sure.
6D Screen is better than 40D.
**UPDATE #2 **
WIFI function is useful but not user friendly, it is NOT simple as like setting up Network connection on a Windows 7, or setup a internet connection through a router. In fact, you need to setup a new account in 6D for every smartphone you want to connect, and in every setup you use different password and name for that single smartphone. This is NOT where you give a name and password so all your friends with the name and password can view your image.
However this is a software issue so hopefully Canon will improve this a later on
** UPDATE #3 12/30 **
After few thousand shots Canon 6D is handling the job quite well, it has high dynamic range, good ISO performance and OK battery life if you don't have WIFI or GPS on all the time. The colors are not over saturated and skin tone is pleasant with the kit lens or sigma 35 1.4. File sizes are around 22mb each and I am using SanDisk 64G 45mb/s no problem on writing speed at all. However I also had a chance to play with D600. I have to say D600 almost outperform 6D in every little things and that does add up. D600 comes with hot shoe cover, LCD cover, auot-brightness LCD that turns the LCD info background into white in the morning and black at night. Live view setup time is also shorter than 6D which means shorter waiting, LCD size looks bigger too. 6D weight is slightly lighter, but D600 is not heavy at all compare to 40D or 5D3, its still within my range.
When I compared the viewfinder, 6D comes short too. 6D only displays battery, ISO, F-stop, shutter speed and available continuous frames. Where else D600 has everything PLUS AF setting, total remaining pictures available, light meter mode (center, bracket ...), & flashlight. That means when I want to change my AF setting (One Shot, Al Focus, Al Servo) or Light meter setting (center, bracket, wieght..) on my 6D I need to move my eye away from viewfinder and look at the top screen instead of checking the setting through viewfinder. Canon can't you do better than this?
Back to what I've said, unless you are already using Canon and like Canon's colors, D600 is overall a better choice in terms of performance(if the dust/oil issue is not present in D600).
**Please feel free to ask questions if you think it is not helpful so I can address more on the 6D to help you make your decision.
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Initial post: Dec 18, 2012 4:19:28 AM PST
Jeff Spaulding says:
The reason the Nikon D600 had a price drop is due to the dust/oil sensor issue. I had the D600 and returned it for the 6D because Nikon refuses to acknowledge the problem and is offering zero as far as a recall or replacement is concerned. You made the right choice with the 6D
Posted on Dec 18, 2012 7:35:54 AM PST
Honesty First says:
Once you used your generic battery in the 6D, your battery is basically disabled. Canon is tricky here. With the new feature like GPS and WiFi, you definitely need more than one battery, but you will have to buy Canon batteries. Now my generic battery cannot even be used in my 60D. :-(
Posted on Dec 18, 2012 11:59:42 AM PST
I also learned that the Nikon D600 is made in Thailand, while the Canon 6D is made in Japan. Savings in labor cost can help Nikon shed some margin to win more customers...
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 3:08:06 PM PST
A. Sun says:
Maybe the resaon of price drop is true, but that also means Canon got lucky this time. You know Canon is definitely able to put up a spec like D600 but decides not to, that is very dissapointed as a Canon supporter. But yes, 6D is still a good camera, I always want a 5D2 with GPS and they did make it now! :)
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 3:09:23 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 18, 2012 3:09:39 PM PST
A. Sun says:
So are you able to read the meter on your 6D charger correctly with generic batteries?
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 3:17:28 PM PST
Honesty First says:
Cannot charge, cannot read, it's dead.
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 6:04:37 PM PST
David L. says:
I've been a Nikon user for the past 4 years. Coming up to the full frame sensor, I nearly went with the Canon 6D. I bought the Nikon D600 instead due to the discount, overall performance, and that I can deal with the dust/oil issue. However, I WILL have to adjust the colors produced to look more in line with Canon - to that point, I do enjoy Canon's rendering of color better.
But I do believe in this case, shoppers simply cannot go wrong with either camp. Competition is good.
Posted on Dec 18, 2012 8:40:28 PM PST
It's a tough call. If the Nikon D600 issue is resolved by sensor cleaning and does not re-occur as suggested on that products review, then it is a significantly better value now that it is less than $2,000 including the 24-85mm Nikon lens, better AF and built-in flash.
Wi-fi and gps will drain the battery faster, so Canon should have made those separate modules for use with any EOS body.
Posted on Dec 19, 2012 6:23:51 PM PST
Anton Huo says:
thx for the review. To answer your question on the battery, I have a 60D (I came from 40D like you and "downgraded" to 60D) and use the same battery LP-E6. Canon updated the battery with a computer chip for displaying the percent remaining on the camera. If the aftermarket battery does not have the chip, you won't be able to see it. I used wasabi power brand replacement battery and it works fine on my 60D.
Posted on Dec 22, 2012 7:22:01 PM PST
J. Wright says:
The 6D also has better ISO performance than the D600