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Some will love these - others will hate them,
The bad - everything else!
If you like boom cars, this is the cats meow.
The bass is tight, but very excessive and drowns out the midrange which sounds very flat. The problem is that if you want to hear the midrange, the phones have to be so loud that the bass will cause hearing loss after a short time.
These are not audiophile quality, but I'm sure that bass freaks will fall in love with these cans.
I'm not the final word on what constitutes good sound, to each their own. If you love bass at the expense of everything else, you'll love these.
From my perspective, 90% of most music occurs in the midrange and bass and extended highs are the icing on the cake. In this case, think of a cup cake (midrange) with 2 pounds of frosting (bass).
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Initial post: Mar 31, 2011 8:21:38 PM PDT
Sony MDR head phones hav better bass !
way cheaper too !
Posted on Apr 1, 2011 12:10:56 PM PDT
Ben H. says:
In reply to an earlier post on Apr 1, 2011 1:28:01 PM PDT
No EQ's. Haven't used them since the early 70's. They ruin the sound for me. Then, of course, I'm not too keen on the Bose sound. But hey, Like I said, we all like what we like and there is no right or wrong.
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 5, 2011 9:37:08 PM PDT
EQs are like table saws. You can make beautiful furniture with them, or cut your fingers off. It's all on how you use them.
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2011 5:16:32 AM PDT
Agreed, but their use is dependent on the quality of your speakers. With a good quality speaker, EQ's only degrade the sound, except in the case where you use them to correct room abnormalities, which usually occurs at the lower frequencies. With midfi speakers and below, EQ's have their uses. I have found that trying to use an EQ to balance the frequency spectrum of a midfi speaker never sounds as good as a quality speaker. It's like trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear. However, in the end, it's up to the listener to decide what they like, or don't like.
I mentioned Bose in my last post because a great many people love them. While they have their uses, they are, to me, a very irritating speaker to listen to. Still, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and I had one gentleman tell me that my high end system sounded "almost" as good as his Bose... One high end audio store owner got so tired of hearing that that he set up a top of the line Bose system in his store so people could directly compare Bose to what he had to sell. Needless to say, his sales increased.
Like I said earlier, there is no right or wrong, it's all a matter of taste.
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2011 10:08:58 AM PDT
I definitely agree that Bose is mediocre at best. They are good at one thing and one thing only, marketing. As for EQs, while they do degrade the sound quality, a good EQ will not have any noticable negative effects on the sound quality as long as you are using a good quality hardware EQ, rather than a software EQ like the one built into iTunes. In fact, if you have inaccurate speakers or headphones it can have much more of a positive effect of evening out their response then any degradation in sound quality. It's amazing how inaccurate most headphones and speakers are. I use test tones at every frequency to EQ all of my equipment to have a perfectly flat response. This, for me, is a more cost effective way of doing things. In fact, I would EQ even very expensive speakers and headphones because there is no such thing as perfectly neutral with gear. To each his own though, I won't try to get you to use EQ, I just find them to be useful tools.
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2011 3:34:26 PM PDT
Actually, I own two EQ's, both digital. I have owned a few others (analog) over the years. The one nice thing about digital is that there is no insertion loss when in the signal path. One of the EQ's is more of an electronic crossover for multiple speakers, but it does have an EQ function, both graphic and parametric. Right now, I just use it for a DAC as it sounds better than the DAC in my CD player. The other is a 31 band graphic EQ and a 10 band parametric with other additional features.
But you're right, there is no such thing as perfectly neutral. If I had the money, I would try the DEQX which is far more sophisticated than a normal EQ. In my system, I find that room treatment makes a bigger impact than an EQ. Except for extremely rare systems, stereos sound like, well, stereos, so unless your goal is the reproduction of a live performance, it's a matter of taste for most of us.
I am in total agreement that an inaccurate speaker or headphone could benefit from an EQ. Even a perfect system is subject to room effects. BTW, one of my favorite headphones, for the money, is the Grado SR60. They are not perfect, but overall, they are well balanced.
One of the reasons EQ's don't always fit the bill is when the speaker drivers lack control (sloppy bass for instance) or are not able to follow the input signal (distorted highs for example). In these cases, EQ's can't help, only a better driver can.
You sound like you know what you're talking about and I imagine that I am preaching to the choir here.
The bottom line is that most people couldn't care less about accurate sound, they've probably never have heard a good system and don't know what they're missing. To them, Bose (or this headphone under review) is quality because it's the best they've heard, even though both you and I know that there is much better, even for the same price.
Still, it's not my place to dictate what's right or wrong on such a subjective subject.
Thanks for your thoughts!
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2011 3:39:29 PM PDT
Thanks for the kind words. I appreciated your review as well. It's nice to see some reviews from people who know a thing or two about audio rather than just people coming from iPods and the stock earbuds.
Posted on Oct 15, 2011 10:52:24 PM PDT
Bryan Willis says:
Considering I use my sony mdr-xb300 on everything, from 5.1 receiver, to music playback, and everything else- WITHOUT an equalizer, I have to say to stfu about that. Very few appliances even have equilization. Think of playing a psp game. You should be able to plug the headphones up, and it sounds great. Now, I don't have these beats cans. Not going to say anything bad about them. But if this review is true, they are definately...wayy....WAYYY overpriced.
In reply to an earlier post on May 12, 2012 3:21:48 PM PDT
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