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Highly disappointed . . .,
This review is from: LG 32CS560 32-Inch 1080p 60Hz LCD HDTV (2012 Model) (Electronics)
Do not buy this TV expecting to get the same quality that the 32LD450 and the 32LK450 had. While it may be the 32LK450's replacement, it certainly doesn't live up to its predecessor. The only area of "improvement" is that they will all allegedly have IPS screens. The one I purchased was an S-IPS (I would have chosen A-MVA if I had a choice), the other unit on the shelf had the same AUSY code, and so did the display unit. The IPS is only an "improvement" though if you were playing the panel lottery with the 32LK450 and trying to find an IPS panel instead of the A-MVA panel. The TV I got has a very minimal amount of backlight bleed on the bottom edge slightly to the right of the center. It's not very noticeable with the backlight down but if you have it high, it stands out and has been getting worse. Initially there was no banding on the DVI>HDMI signal from the PC on various test pages but, that has started to show up as well for some reason. Speaking of tests, do not bother using the "Picture Wizard" on the TV as it will crush your black levels and it is impossible to make the which image look like the recommended example unless you increase the brightness and wash out your black levels in the process. There is something fundamentally wrong with the "Picture Wizard" and/or the TV.
Several of the options in the TV menu have been removed and are as follows:
Photo (this was model Dependant)
This was model dependent but it's allegedly in the 32CS560 yet there is is no setting for it in the menu.
Screen RBG PC:
This is obviously missing as the CS560 series does not have a VGA port
Advanced Settings/Expert Control:
Dynamic Colour (this is missing on Expert 1 and Expert 2)
Digital Noise Reduction (Noise Reduction is still there)
Real Cinema/Film mode (24fps video has to be playing to gain access to this)
Colour Gamut (EBU, SMPTE, and BT709 have been removed)
xvYCC (I haven't seen this but, that type of signal may not be getting put out)
Color Temperature (is not available on expert and it has been changed to only go from W50 to C50. All methods except 2 point have been removed and 2 point is under the Expert Control on all video modes including Expert 1 and Expert 2. The 10 point IRE settings have been removed)
ISM Mode (this was used to remove ghosting from stationary images and it has been removed).
In addition to that, the 32CS560 does not process 24fps video content correctly. There is a judder/jitter/stutter every time the camera pans up, down. left, or right. You have to have "Film Mode" on to make the judder/jitter/stutter not look like a bunch of zig zags but it doesn't stop it from happening. You need ot reduce your contrast setting to 20 or less to reduce the judder/jitter/stutter and that will seriously degrade your I/PQ (image/picture quality) as it will leave it dim/dingy/dirty/etc. as if there is a film of dirt/fog on your screen. There is absolutely no way to correct this issue and to make matters worse, you can not use "Film Mode" when the 32CS560 is hooked up to your PC. This issue has been reported by two other owners as well.
Speaking of the PC, you are able to have the 32CS560 do 4:4:4 chroma without renaming the input label but, you have to do the EDID override if you are using a Nvidia video card. When it comes to video games (PC and console), there aren't a lot of complaints as myself and two other owners didn't notice any issues. When it comes to video though, the TV's flaws are there in full force just like they are with a DVD player.
I will be returning this TV for a refund (purchased locally so I didn't have to wait for shipping) as I have absolutely no interest in an exchange as the issues are present with other owners.
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Initial post: Mar 27, 2012 8:36:18 AM PDT
Not to mention the CS560 series only has 2 HDMI ports, I can't believe LG wants people to buy an inferior TV compared to last years LK450 series.
Posted on Apr 4, 2012 3:27:35 PM PDT
A. johnson says:
And I highly agree with this review. I was very close to purchasing this TV, but upon further research, I found the 32CS560 to be far inferior to it's 2011 counterpart. LG should be ashamed of themselves to put out such a low standard product. To think that I even thought about buying this TV, believing that the 2012 version would be so much better. But I will say that it led me to buying a LG 32LK450 before stores were sold out. Hopefully their 2012 TVs aren't indicative of what's to come in future years
Posted on Jun 15, 2012 7:59:48 AM PDT
Dean W. Gritmacker says:
Can you help me out looking for a 32" lcd or led to use a primary PC monitor.
I mostly do browsing and use frontpage for my auction listings and do play BF# and Skyrim and a few other fps games.
I have a well built gaming rig with a nvidia 680 superclocked card and 16 gb of ram.
my 28" hanns g just died few days back and picked up a sansui at local dept store sled2453w 24"led its bad but just temp til I can narrow down the right 32" led or lcd to buy that will work the best.
Did alot of searching but seems alot that were ips panels and were confirmed 4:4:4 chroma are discontinued or out of stock,is there any one model that is a recent release that you could suggest for me ?
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:43:14 AM PDT
Racer J says:
Very few of the 2012 models have been tested as everyone just got done picking up the 2011 models or they still have a 2010 model they are happy with. When it comes to IPS panels, only a handful of companies are currently using them. LG is one but this year's lineup from LG is garnering a lot of complaints. I think Panasonic is still using IPS this year and I think there was another company as well but both brands are fairly "expensive" compared to the price tier the LK450 and CS560 series from LG were/are in (though with a 680 video card this likely won't be an issue for you).
4:4:4 will limit your choices even further though as it's not something anyone is intentionally adding. If you know about the lists of confirmed IPS panels and 4:4:4 support, chances are you have found the threads at AVS and [H]ard|Forum which discuss this topic in depth. If you haven't Google them as they are full of a wealth of information. You may also want to search through the owner's threads for certain models over at AVS as there may be discussions about the panel types and 4:4:4 that haven't made it into the actual 4:4:4 threads yet.
Then there is the issue of input lag which will further complicate and limit your choices.
Long story short, the only 2012 TV with IPS and 4:4:4 I know about is unfortunately the LG CS560. LG has apparently been doing firmware updates on some of their 2012 models as even their upper tier sets shipped without features they were supposed to have. These updates have not completely eliminated the judder/jitter/stutter issues though. If you are willing to get an A-MVA or S-PVA panel instead, then your options will open up a bit. However, if you are willing to look at A-MVA wait until later in the year when the 120 HZ (actual 120 HZ panels not the faked 120 Hz motion interpolation panels) come out later in the year. You've pretty much found yourself in the middle of a the new model and tech roll-out for the year so it might be best to wait until the third or fourth quarter. If you can't wait that long, there is an Insignia NS-32L240A13 which is a 32" A-MVA panel that has 4:4:4 support but, the input lag is currently untested. You can pick it up new for $270+ tax though so, that might make a fairly decent placeholder until you can find something with an IPS panel in it that has 4:4:4 support and low input lag.
Hopefully this reply will at least point you in the right direction. Sorry I couldn't be of further help but, there are a ton of new sets out and a lot of people just aren't shopping/testing them right now. I was in the same place you are a few months ago and I finally just broke down and picked up a refurbished U23H11 from Dell to tide me over until I could find an appropriate TV later in the year.
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