What headphones did you use?
Great review, by the way.
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The SanDisk Sansa Clip Zip--the SanDisk Sansa Clip line further popularized for all,
This review is from: SanDisk Sansa Clip Zip 8GB MP3 Player, Grey With Full-Color Display, MicroSDHC Card Slot and Stopwatch- SDMX22-008G-A57G (Discontinued by Manufacturer) (Electronics)
-- all the benefits of the Clip+: great sound; small; microSD card support; FM radio (with record capability); recorder; gapless play; optional folder navigation; multiple formats support (mp3, wma, ogg vorbis, flac); file drag-and-drop capability; ad hoc playlist creation; cute and appealing
-- new: aac file support for DRM-free aac format files; small color screen with album art display; time-of-day indication; "sports mode" with timer and lap time; fast alphabet scrolling in lists; menu customizability; enhanced contemporary feel and, perhaps, sturdiness; improved microSD card fit; improved EQ
The limited cons:
-- internal memory maxes out at 8GB; limited what's playing screen information; underlying folder art can make screen readability harder; missing some play-all options; for some users: battery life remains rated at 15 hours; no video capability; greater functionality could be provided to the user (could be handled in future firmware upgrades)
The Clip Zip, the latest in the SanDisk Sansa Clip line, is firmly committed to the Clip line's proven success: a small, cute and attractive, easy-to-use player with great sound. Not much more can be said about the sound: SanDisk got it right with the original Clip and wisely has not tinkered with that, keeping the Clip line at the top of the audio player field. With one exception: while the Clip Zip's EQ options sound improved to my ears, they still can sound harsh--as a general matter, best to leave the EQ options alone.
Physically, the Clip Zip is only a trifle larger than its predecessor, in its long dimension. As before, the body is an attractive, sturdy 2-piece plastic shell that angles out, with a large, permanently attached, sturdy plastic clip occupying its back. The one-piece directional pad on the front of the Clip Zip has been reduced in size to the bottom third of the player's face, with a thin, rectangular select button in its center--some larger-fingered users may have to exercise some care. An inset postage stamp-sized screen occupies the top half of the face of the player. Available in a variety of pleasing colors, my player is an attractive platinum color with a silver-colored directional pad and silver volume rocker and power switches at the left and top sides. The headphone jack remains on the top right side of the player, with a microSD card slot below that, at the bottom; an inserted microSD card now sits totally flush with the player, helping to avoid any inadvertent ejection (although this could make removing the card a trifle more difficult for some). The Clip Zip adopts the micro USB standard for its data and power port at the top left of the player, and comes with a handy short USB/micro USB cable.
In the end, the Clip Zip has a perhaps slightly more contemporary, and sturdy, feel than before, including with its modernized screen graphics and opening and closing exploding screen logo. SanDisk includes with the player a pair of its standard earbud headphones, which many users like--I swap them out for audiophile in-ear phones that complement the player's well-tuned sound.
Beyond these basics, the Clip Zip, like the earlier Clip+, includes microSD card support, making it possible to increase the player's storage five-fold from its maximum 8GB internal storage to a total of 40GB, with a 32GB microSD card. Amazing, for something so small; microSD card slots should be standard in all audio players. All content nicely is seamlessly merged in the Clip Zip's database, or separately can be accessed by folder, as on a computer. The Clip Zip also includes a well-functioning FM radio, with presets and recording capability; new, the display automatically shows the currently-selected radio station's call letters. As before, the Clip Zip has a recorder; gapless play between files--a necessity for live performance recordings; simple drag-and-drop file transfer capability as well as compatibility with music players and aggregators like Windows Media Player; and ad hoc playlist creation (limited to a current, temporary playlist). The Clip Zip also continues Replaygain support to equalize volume between files, and speed control (slow, normal, fast) for podcasts and audiobooks (but, unfortunately, without pitch adjustment, which would be a welcome addition).
With this pedigree in hand, the Clip Zip then takes off. Firmly inviting iTunes users in, the Clip Zip now is compatible with DRM-free aac files (the iTunes standard), in addition to, as before, mp3, wma, protected wma, ogg vorbis and flac formats; iTunes users no longer need convert their aac files (hurting it in the process) to mp3 format. Reflecting the visual age, the Clip Zip trades in the mostly monochrome, text-oriented small screen of its predecessors for a full (albeit postage stamp-sized), well-functioning color screen with album art display and muted album art backgrounds; where album art is not available, the Clip Zip substitutes varying tasteful designs rather than a dry, static picture (no more pictures of a music note for album art-less files). And then, perhaps listening to its audience's earlier suggestions, SanDisk adds in the time-of-day to the player's what's playing screen (many thanks!); a "sports mode" with timer and lap time; fast alphabetical scrolling for content lists--very welcome for those users with lots of content; and the (limited) ability to customize the Clip Zip's top menu to show or exclude function categories (Music, Radio, Books, Voice, Card, Sport).
Users of earlier Clip players will find the operation of the Clip Zip familiar, and largely instinctual. Newcomers will adapt in minutes.
All of this is done in an evolutionary manner, still within the Clip lineage; this is not a new player line. Some users will be disappointed by the 8GB internal memory ceiling; 16GB and 32GB models would be appreciated at this point in time--as well as beyond that for us jukebox users. The player's battery remains rated at 15-hours, typically enough for a full day, but some users would like more; the battery is not user replaceable, given the player's size (some users would prefer otherwise). And there is no video capability (although this only would be minimally useful, given the small screen--but it still would be welcome).
Seemingly as a result of the adoption of album art display, some informational functionality has been lessened on the Clip Zip's what's playing screen: there is no current track number and total tracks information; the current song/file time position is only indicated by a progress bar--there are no elapsed or remaining time indicators; and some of the on-screen information can be a bit harder to see, depending on underlying album art. Also, for some reason, a play-all option, apart from in shuffled mode, has gone missing from most of the playback options--album aficionados will be limited to choosing 1 album at a time or creating playlists. These issues are important for many users--perhaps (hopefully) SanDisk will consider them for future firmware upgrades. (Speaking of which: how about a separate time screen with a clock face, with a few style options?) And the database hindrance from earlier Clip models remains: when files are added to or removed from the microSD card or the card is removed and replaced, the Clip Zip needs to refresh its database, which can take many minutes, depending on the size of the card's contents, during which the player cannot otherwise be used.
In the end, despite some limitations (some of which could be addressed in the future), the Clip Zip is an attractive successor in the Clip line, with enhanced functionality especially of note for those with a library of aac files and for those wanting album art or timing capabilities.
9-12-11 UPDATE as to Audible compatibility with the Clip Zip:
Apparently, people have been finding it impossible to transfer Audible audiobooks to the Clip Zip. In trying myself, I found the same thing--frustrating! In following up, it turns out that Audible needs to update its Audible Manager software, used to transfer Audible audiobooks, etc. to a device, and is working on it. In the meanwhile, see the comments section below for a couple of easy ways to transfer Audible content to the Clip Zip: simple drag-and-drop/copy-and-paste; or using Windows Media Player. In fact, personally, I actually prefer using the drag-and-drop method to having to fire up the Audible Manager just to transfer content over--simpler.
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Initial post: Aug 30, 2011 12:02:48 PM PDT
What headphones did you use?
Great review, by the way.
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2011 12:14:31 PM PDT
Thanks. The player comes with the stock SanDisk black earbuds that have come with the earlier Clip and Fuze models. I have never used them, and instead use a pair of in-ear monitors that I already have, either a pair of Shures or a Panasonic. My guess is, the Clip Zip will work well with most headphones--a good investment.
Posted on Aug 31, 2011 1:03:45 AM PDT
I know that the stock earbuds are horrible.
You said that you use IEMs. What type are your Shure? Just asking because I've got the 425 by Shure which are actually multi-BAs.
I'd like to know if the Zip can handle multi BAs (balanced armature) earphones as good as the clip+.
Posted on Aug 31, 2011 10:57:23 AM PDT
That was an excellent review, right down to the little details that I haven't read anywhere else like the more nuanced functions or the album art-less display. I've ordered this player myself, along with a 32GB card. Looking forward to have my whole music collection on this tiny thing!
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 31, 2011 1:21:17 PM PDT
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@Martin C. Scherer:
I have a good old pair of Shure E2C's (my first audiophile phones) and a Shure SE210's--I really like them (I had compared them to other Shures) and they fit and stay in my ears well, a problem I've had with more expensive Shures. I also have a very nice pair of Panasonic RP-HJE900's that I picked up as they seemingly were being liquidated; very nice quality--that of much more expensive phones--at a good price (especially at the sell-out price!).
My understanding is that the Clip Zip uses the same sound engineering as the Clip+. And so if your phones work well with the Clip+, they should work equally well with the Clip Zip. I find the sound between the two pretty much identical.
By the way, I understand your feelings about the buds that come with the player, but I always find it interesting that some people really like them and, in fact, try to find replacements for them.
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 31, 2011 1:23:35 PM PDT
Thank you for your reply :)
In reply to an earlier post on Aug 31, 2011 1:30:10 PM PDT
Thanks! Like you, I have a 32GB card in my player and I am continually amazed that I have 35GB+ worth of music on this little thing, to carry with me wherever I go. But I still would like a 100GB+ solid state player--hey, that's only 3 32GB microSD cards, which could be put in a player only a little bit bigger! I have read of other people having 2 or more Clips, each holding different music or podcasts/audiobooks for this purpose. :)
Posted on Sep 2, 2011 1:09:25 PM PDT
Excellent review. You should post this under the black version of the device as it will reach more people and the different colors are not sharing the same reviews strangely.
Posted on Sep 5, 2011 9:21:07 PM PDT
This was an exceptional review.
I owned a Sansa Clip+ and I liked how you described the similarities and differences the Clip+ has with the Zip.
I intend to buy the 4GB version of the Zip because I can later, if need be, expand storage for much cheaper than buying the 8GB version of the Zip. I was never able to break 4GB on my original 8GB Clip+ and so a 4GB Zip would suit me just fine.
No one will probably say this, but I appreciate the correct use of grammar in your review and your very apparent command of the English language. You write like an engineer/scientist/researcher.
Again, fantastic review!
In reply to an earlier post on Sep 11, 2011 8:04:30 AM PDT
@+/-0: Many thanks for the kind words!