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Wonderful Explanation of How Christianity and Evolution Are Compatible,
This review is from: Saving Darwin: How to Be a Christian and Believe in Evolution (Hardcover)
Saving Darwin is an excellent book! A must read! It is a very accessible analysis of the "origins" controversy in American culture. Giberson preserves the integrity of science while being religiously sensitive and encourages us to see the harmony, in principle, of science and Christianity.
Giberson convincingly argues for the explanatory mission of science as the detection of natural mechanisms as causes for natural phenomena, while steering carefully between two serious misunderstandings of science. On the one hand, popular cultural icons of science who represent evolutionary theory as entailing a naturalistic worldview--or even any particular philosophical position such as ethical relativism or social Darwinism--are misrepresenting science as such and thus harming our cultural discussion. On the other hand, religious fundamentalists who think that biblical sources should be imported into scientific work--as in "creation science"--are equally misguided about what science is. The more recent Intelligent Design movement also displays an egregious misunderstanding in insisting that science can inquire into transcendent or ultimate (supernatural) causes for natural phenomena. Giberson exposes the serious defects in these religiously-based "alternative" ways of doing science which continue to polarize the cultural discussion in their own ways.
Although Giberson's autobiographical journey, so well portrayed in the book that many can identify with him, carried him away from his early anti-evolution fundamentalism, it did not erode his Christian belief because he came to see evolution as an expression of God's creativity. Giberson shows that more sophisticated (less simplistic) categories for understanding the Bible and Christianity, coupled with a realistic, nonagendized view of science, make it entirely possible for a faithful believer to embrace evolution as a fascinating part of the total truth about God's ways with the world.
The reader of this book will be invited into the thought process that led the writer to see Christianity and evolution as compatible and even as mutually enlightening one another. The reader will also learn the history of the origins debate in this country, some of the real history of science and its positive relation to Christianity, and some helpful conceptual distinctions for making sense of this important issue.
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Initial post: Jun 25, 2008 8:24:48 PM PDT
Larry Fafarman says:
--"A must read! "--
We so often hear that a book is a "must read" or "if you only read one book about this subject, read this one," that sort of thing. But one reason why I almost never read books is that reading books is very time-consuming and doesn't leave enough time to get a variety of views from a number of different viewpoints.
It seems that a lot of Darwinists have the idea that religion is the main reason why people doubt evolution, but I don't think that idea is true. I think that the main reason for doubting Darwin is that people don't find evolution to be credible in scientific terms. The bible seems to teach that the earth is the center of the universe but most religious people don't accept that teaching because the evidence against it is overwhelming.
Strangely, a lot of people seem to find the idea of being descended from monkeys to be cause for celebration -- they celebrate Darwin's birthday, buy "I love Darwin" knick-knacks, etc.. I don't consider the idea of being descended from monkeys to be anything to be ashamed of, but nor do I consider it to be cause for celebration.
--"The more recent Intelligent Design movement also displays an egregious misunderstanding in insisting that science can inquire into transcendent or ultimate (supernatural) causes for natural phenomena. "--
That statement shows a complete misunderstanding of what ID is. ID is the idea that natural causes such as we know them do not adequately explain the complexity and diversity of living things. ID does not seek to find supernatural causes.
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Anthony Lawson says:
Larry, you wrote:
"It seems that a lot of Darwinists have the idea that religion is the main reason why people doubt evolution, but I don't think that idea is true. I think that the main reason for doubting Darwin is that people don't find evolution to be credible in scientific terms. The bible seems to teach that the earth is the center of the universe but most religious people don't accept that teaching because the evidence against it is overwhelming."
Unfortunately I believe that you are wrong on all points that you make. First, most people who oppose evolution do in fact reject it for religious/theological/cultural reasons. I can attest to that fact by personal experience and by observation of others. I rejected evolution most of my life for theological reasons. It was only when I decided to sit down and to objectively study the merits of evolution that I discovered that the evidence in its favor was overwhelming. Second, you say that most who reject evolution do so because of the scientific evidence but the reality is that most have never really studied the evidence. Most are content with the popular apologic books. Third, although I agree that the Bible does teach that the earth is the center of the universe but most conservative/fundamentalist readers of the Bible simply read those statements as metaphorical.
Posted on Jul 7, 2008 6:41:03 PM PDT
Amazon Customer says:
Just wanted to say cheers to your review. A book like this, by Giberson, is important for Christians to read. Far too many times they are pushed into such falacies as Young Earth theology without really understanding a) correct exegesis of the pericopes of Genesis 1 and 2 and b) precise examinations of Young Earth Theology, Old Earth Theology, and Christian Theistic Evolution. If people actually stepped out of their fears that evolution is just a bad guy, if people actually considered evolution as a part of how nature shows the glories of God, then much education can be made. I suggest you check out "The Language of God" by Collins. Another great fantastic book!
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 10, 2008 7:06:10 AM PDT
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Paul R. Bruggink says:
And if you want to go a step further, try Gordon J. Glover's "Beyond the Firmament: Understanding Science and the Theology of Creation" and/or Denis O. Lamoureux's "Evolutionary Creation: A Christian Approach to Evolution."
Posted on Jul 15, 2008 5:17:45 AM PDT
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Kevin Currie-Knight says:
>>>It seems that a lot of Darwinists have the idea that religion is the main reason why people doubt evolution, but I don't think that idea is true. I think that the main reason for doubting Darwin is that people don't find evolution to be credible in scientific terms. The bible seems to teach that the earth is the center of the universe but most religious people don't accept that teaching because the evidence against it is overwhelming.
I also think you are very wrong on this point. Most lay people, frankly, do not knkow enough about science (or care enough about it) to have real scientific problems with evolution. I think the discrepancy between people accepting the heliocentric theory and people accepting evolution is that the latter DIRECTLY touches our idea of who we are as humans. (In other words, I think most laypeople who reject evolution reject it because religiously, they don't like the implication that we are an outgrowth of a simian ancestor).
This is also backed up by a Gallup survey that I saw in 2004, which showed that the resistance to evoluitonary theory in the mainstream is overwhelmingly for religious reasons.
Saying that most people reject evolution for sceintific, not religious, reasons is like saying most Americans are Christians because they find arguments for the Trinity theologically convincing (rather than that they were just raised that way).
In reply to an earlier post on Oct 22, 2009 1:06:47 PM PDT
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Amazon Customer says:
Larry, it sounds like you got your evolution education from the YEC writers. They use a lot of spin. You would think that being acclaimed Christians and all that they would be honest, but my comparative studies with many views have convinced me that they are either 1. stupid (I doubt that option), or 2. deliberately deceptive. Please, please read real evolutionists, like Dawkins or Prothero. Prothero's book on fossils is phenomenal; it'll open your eyes, if you are open to change at all. Relics of Eden by Fairbanks is a great book to show how DNA studies give incredible evidence for evolution. Hope this helps. I found that once I stepped outside of my faith and looked at all the evidence (not opinions) objectively, the conclusions came easily. Ken
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