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319 of 326 people found the following review helpful:
Very Good - High Tech Humidifier
Don't mean to be a humidifier geek but researched A LOT of them before settling on this one so maybe the reviewer before me should have given it another chance before returning it. At night if you set it to low there is no loud gurgling/boiling noise, and if you have the tank reasonably full there are never any distracting noises. Also wanted a "pure" clean mist, easy...
Published on October 29, 2005 by LaZeR
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136 of 143 people found the following review helpful:
A very temperamental, fully-featured humidifier
Akin to other reviewers, I performed extensive research on humidifers before concluding on the HWM450. A Consumer's Report 'Best Buy' + strong feedback ratings on multiple price comparison sites led me to what appeared to be an 'obvious' purchase on Amazon.
Egads. As the old adage goes, you get what you pay for.
To be fair, I love the multiple...
Published on March 20, 2006 by Paul Stuart
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319 of 326 people found the following review helpful:
Very Good - High Tech Humidifier, October 29, 2005
This review is from: Honeywell HWM450 Quick Steam Warm Moisture Humidifier (Kitchen)
Don't mean to be a humidifier geek but researched A LOT of them before settling on this one so maybe the reviewer before me should have given it another chance before returning it. At night if you set it to low there is no loud gurgling/boiling noise, and if you have the tank reasonably full there are never any distracting noises. Also wanted a "pure" clean mist, easy maintenance, and of course effectiveness. I liked the features, functionality, and design of this one over the others, so I paid a bit more and got it even though the size and all the features are gravy as far as I'm concerned.
What sets this system apart from the others is the following: A large LCD display shows the current humidity level and there are three separate digital controls - output level, moisture, timer - each of which you can set exactly. What makes this efficient is you can DIGITALLY set the humidity to your EXACT preference - anywhere from 25 to 65. If you want it to shut off when you leave for work, set the timer - 1 to 18 hours. A four gallon output and 1400 square foot range makes it convenient.
It's warm mist so no filters ever need to be puchased but in due course you'll need to get new mineral pads which sit over the stainless steal heating element. I think Honeywell has or is getting a patent for the heating element. Humidifiers are almost always used during winter so why did they invent cool mist ones anyway?
It looks good, works well, is compact, and so far satisfied with the operation and paying a bit more for this model. Maybe Honeywell is trying to be serious about the quality of its products *shrug* who knows. The only non-critical issue is a light indicator should turn on when the desired humidity level is reached but it doesn't. Don't like when I buy something and even the simplest stated feature doesn't work, but in this case will let it slide as no other functionality is affected.
Bottom line - even if all you need is a simple, small humidifier, with few features, you might be happier getting this one instead.
UPDATE, November 28, 2005
Reviewer: B. Ahmed "lazer30" (Mars) - See all my reviews
Just an update to my previous review. Exchanged the unit since the indicator was not turning on when the desired humidity level was reached. Seems it was a burnt out bulb. When the desired humidity is reached the indicatior does in fact go on, the humidifier stops discharging, then when the room falls below the desired humidity level the unit starts back up again.
Another thing: it's a good idea to clean this unit regularly - perhaps once a week. I read another guy's post where he used CLR in the cleaning routine. Might try that as the heating element can never be cleaned to look like brand new without using something. Honeywell writes in the manual there will be some stains left on the heating element but this should not affect performance.
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196 of 202 people found the following review helpful:
Fairly pleased so far, December 17, 2005
This review is from: Honeywell HWM450 Quick Steam Warm Moisture Humidifier (Kitchen)
I researched humidifiers extensively before settling on this one by Honeywell. I've had it a week so far, and here are my thoughts.
It is very well made, easy to assemble, clean, and digitally program. In four days my face went from dry, cracked flaky and bumpy to buttery soft, smooth and bump-free, which to me is a priceless benefit. I have extremely parched sensitive skin and live in a condo with forced hot air heating, and figured I needed to invest in a humidifer but never got around to it until now.
So why the four star rating? The first two nights the unit reflected 20% humidity in the house and couldn't seem to raise the moisture level beyond that. It did not make a dent in the environment or my skin. The third night it rained, and since then the unit has been getting closer to hitting the 55% humidity setting I have it on, but so far hasn't gotten there yet. Not sure why. I have just under 1200 sq feet and it's a four gallon output which is supposed to be adequate to humidify my living space. It's been sunny outside for the past few days, and my fear is that if it doesn't rain again soon and the temperature drops, the humidifer may not be able to continue to raise the indoor humidity level. But perhaps the humidifying effects will turn out to be cumulative if I run it every night while sleeping as I've been doing.
Another con - the water only lasts a couple of hours, not the whole night through, on the high setting. I will have to experiment with the medium and low ouput levels as this seems the likeliest culprit.
A word about the noise - does not bother me at all and I am extremely sensitive to and easily irritated by various noises. I find the quiet bubbling sort of sound rather soothing actually.
I would strongly recommend the unit for people with dry parched skin. If performance falters, I will update this review.
A final note on what I learned while researching humidifers, for what it's worth -
supersonic units apparently have a problem with spewing white mineral dust into the atmosphere; cool mist is a bad choice for the winter months and no one is sure why you'd need a humidifer in warmer months, so the reason for making these is a bit of a mystery; evaporative types are a playground for bacteria and a pain to keep clean; and warm mist seeemed the easiest to clean and operate (which is why I selected this model).
1 Month Update - Still going strong. Easily reaches desired humidity level with one of the doors to my master bedroom shut. Note about cleaning - in the manual they say to set the water tray aside and fill it with a cup of vinegar. What they MEAN is - dump any water out of the water tray, put it back in the unit, and THEN fill it with vinegar. The cleaning instructions leave a lot to be desired. The way it's stated in the manual, since the water tray is an empty funnel on one side with a shallow tray on the other, there is NO capability for it to hold the vinegar unless you put it back in the unit, which is NOT stated in the manual. They leave you hanging with your water tray "set aside". Honeywell- take note. Learn to write step-by-step instructions correctly, especially in areas where you note that adherence to them is critical!
Also, NOWHERE in the cleaning manual does it say to rinse the heating pads thoroughly. I find that doing so keeps them clean, white and fluffy. This is another major oversight in the manual's instructions on cleaning. They were just plain careless at guiding you through the process. Also very important - if after a cleaning your unit won't start - it may be because the scent of bleach or vinegar is still clinging to the parts. This has happened to me. With additional heavy rinsing, the unit operates again with no problems. I run it at nighttime when the air is dry, and have been cleaning it every other week. The longer the vinegar stays in the water tray, the more the gunk on the heating element lifts. Note to K. Seeley - that reviewer more than likely has extremely hard water. Try rinsing the heating pads for longer life.
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136 of 143 people found the following review helpful:
A very temperamental, fully-featured humidifier, March 20, 2006
This review is from: Honeywell HWM450 Quick Steam Warm Moisture Humidifier (Kitchen)
Akin to other reviewers, I performed extensive research on humidifers before concluding on the HWM450. A Consumer's Report 'Best Buy' + strong feedback ratings on multiple price comparison sites led me to what appeared to be an 'obvious' purchase on Amazon.
Egads. As the old adage goes, you get what you pay for.
To be fair, I love the multiple output settings, humidity on/off feature, not to mention the handy, hourly shutoff option. Moreover, a big water tank allows for 1.5 nights of full use without a refill. Finally, the HWM450 is also extremely quiet, and does quite well with Vicks Humidifer Vapor Fluid poured into its medicine cup.
The downsides...equally as obvious. The digusting yellowish-orange, mineral deposits + algae buildup after only 3-4 days of use are both eyesores and difficult to clean. The humidifier's 'mineral reservoir' [actually] promotes this buildup by storing this gunk in cavernous channels until emptied. Worse of all, the gunk burns on and into the heating plate rather quickly in an almost cement-like fashion. (Why the HWM450 doesn't burn off/liquify more of these deposits as part of its humidification process is beyond me. Lower tier, Honeywell humidifers operate under this premise.) Related, the mineral deposit pads become equally tainted rather quickly.
The good news is, the HWM450 is easy to clean...if you know how. Trial and error produced the knowledge -- alluded elsewhere in reviews -- that the cleaning pads can simply be rinsed clean with cold water (don't waste your money on new pads). Second, the mineral reservoir can easily be rinsed clean, likewise the humidifier's removable components. The mineral plate is a little feistier. Not feisty enough, however, for a 1/8th inch layer of CLR left on it for a good 30 minutes. Breaks everything down for an easy clean/rinse off.
My first HWM450 began to emit a strong burning odor after its first cleaning cycle. I returned it to Kaz (Honeywell's parent company) -- excellent customer service -- who replaced it at no cost (minus my shipping to send it there). The second unit has a buggy hygrometer, echoed by others here who have it stuck on 20 percent.
Moral of the story? If you can get past its shortcomings, a decent short-term humidification solution. I remain on the lookout, however, for a pricier, more reliable unit.
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38 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
Best made Humidifier on the market, February 24, 2008
This review is from: Honeywell HWM450 Quick Steam Warm Moisture Humidifier (Kitchen)
I am a skilled Commercial/Industrial Equipment Repair Technician and I can tell you this is a well built unit. I have answers to all the questions in this message area and to all the issues some people are having with simple user problems.
The Warm mist is the best to buy for the winter, it puts out the most humidity and helps to warm the house. It doesn't have bacteria like cold water units which need filters and are best used during summer months to help COOL the room.
Like all equipment there is maintenance, and some required maintenance is well worth the comfort and relief you get from the dry air in the room during the winter months when the humidity levels drop down into the teens!!
Whenever water is boiled any calcium, iron, and air you have in your water will separate from it. Same here, if you have hard water calcium will collect in the bottom of the water reservoir. Honeywell knows this and has made this unit capable of being used in such situation. If you have very hard water you can use the mineral pads, some supplied, to help absorb the minerals.
Water softeners help to remove most of the calcium and iron that makes your water hard. You do not need to use the mineral pad, the unit will operate better without it!! Use it in situations if you have very hard water only. Most of the extra noise is when air gets trapped below the pad because the air holes are blocked during use, and it builds up pressure and pops.
Do not clean the pad and reuse, it shreds and blows up blocking the air holes in the 2 layer pad. The holes must line up and not get crossed like closing a valve trapping more air in the bottom of the tank.
As the Humidity in your home drops the moisture in everything in your home dries up, the wood, furniture, walls, and floor, so it will take some time (about 1 to 2 weeks) until you get all the moisture back into everthing. Water levels below 40% are considered to be dry, and 30% and below are very dry. You can get nose bleed and headaches below 35%!!Ideal levels are 45 to 50 percent. In the winter it is harder to get levels up because you have constant drying from the weather and your heating system. Dry mouth and sinus relief can be noticed above 40%. I recommend a unit for each floor. You may need to fill it once a day on low, and twice a day on high, hence the different output levels. Whatever it takes to achieve your desired humidity level.
So the water, type of heating, weather, and construction of your home are factors effecting the overall performance you will get in aquiring your desired humidity level. This unit puts out up to 4 gal a day, that is awsome!! The more it is used the more you will have to clean it depending on how hard your water is. Remember a water softener will help most situations.
All in all this unit will handle the job, it's stainless steel heating plate is easy to clean, just pop the unit apart, brush and rinse the parts off, it all washes well in the wash room. Only the calcium thing is a problem for those who have very hard water, but in most cases a water softener is used and should take care of the problem.
Use the mineral pads only if you have a hard water problem, turn the output level to the low setting after the humidity level is achieved. Check the mineral level in the reservoir when you fill the tank, you can see the water when you lift the tank off, if the water is dirty, it needs to be cleaned soon (every 1-2 weeks, takes 5-10 minutes). The unit will shutdown if the water is too dirty, cool heh!!
I recommend this unit over any other brand out there, don't mess with the ultrasonic nightmare units, I hear they are a real headache and spit dirt all over the place, the maintenance it high too, plus the filters are expensive!!
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22 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
Good unit for winter dryness, October 8, 2006
This review is from: Honeywell HWM450 Quick Steam Warm Moisture Humidifier (Kitchen)
I like this unit best among half a dozen warm stream humidifiers I've tried. It has an ample tank that can last through the night, yet it can pump out enough moisture quickly to cover my family room, even fighting the forced-air heating system (which, of course, replaces a lot of the moist air with freshly heated dry air every time the heat runs. I expect it does a lot better with convective heating systems.) The variable speed, automatic shutdown timer and variable humidistat are all handy (though I wish they didn't need to be reset each time the unit is powered on); and, I like the fact that it actually displays the current humidity reading (as opposed to some units that have a control calibrated only as "more humid ... less humid" and you have to guess what it currently thinks of the humidity.)
Cleaning is easier compared to other warm vapor models I've used (whose heating elements become caked in mineral deposits), though this ease comes at the cost of having to keep spare replacable pads around (it comes with 4, and they last a couple of weeks each, so you might as well order a 12-pack while you're at it.)
Since it does add heat to the air, for summer dryness (I'm in Arizona) I prefer an ultrasonic humidifier. But for winter use, this is my choice.
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20 of 20 people found the following review helpful:
Original product = garbage, but good customer service, December 2, 2005
This review is from: Honeywell HWM450 Quick Steam Warm Moisture Humidifier (Kitchen)
The first one I got was garbage and didn't work right out of the box. It shut down right away and leaked all over the floor like a scared puppy. I called the manufacturer customer service and, fortunately, they sent a new one right away, no questions asked, and a prepaid return shipping label for the bad one.
The new one has been going for about a month now and seems to be doing a good job keeping the humidity up despite the woodstove. The water I'm running through it is from my cisten and tends to bulid up minerals and dissolved solids on the heating element, but this is coming off pretty easy with some vinegar once every couple weeks (per cleaning instructions). It does make a little gurgling noise, but it's not too annoying.
I don't have another humidifier to compare this one to, but so far, it seems to be doing the job.
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15 of 15 people found the following review helpful:
excellent warm mist humidifier -- you will not be sorry!, January 4, 2007
This review is from: Honeywell HWM450 Quick Steam Warm Moisture Humidifier (Kitchen)
I am extremely pleased with this humidifier. I much prefer warm mist models to cool mist models due to the quiet operation and soothing mist. I recently had to replace my veteran warm mist model that has since been discontinued and in my two year search I purchased (and returned!) nine (yes, nine) different warm and cool mist models from various manufacturers before I found this one. I was absolutely disgusted with what is on the market, even at four times the price. Cool mist ones that promise to be "ultra quiet" sound like jet engines; ultrasonic models produce unbelievable amounts of fine white dust even with new water treatment technologies that claim to reduce mineral output. Warm mist models are especially hard to find (forget it if you want digital controls) and tend to have very low output.
I am very pleased to say that the HWM450 lives up to my very high standards and I'm quite surprised to see some of the poor reviews here. I've had mine for about 3 months. I knew this was the one when I first unpacked it. I was so accustomed to the poor design and flimsy construction of the other models I've owned that I was literally taken aback when I disassembled it. The technical design of this humidifer is absolutely beautiful. The heating plate is stainless steel and has a large surface area. A heavy plastic baffle/deflector sits inside the unit over the heating plate in an upside-down cone fashion to create an enclosed steam chamber which enables it to operate quietly and have surprisingly high output on its highest setting. Unlike other models, the steam chamber design is brilliant because it clearly traps as much heat as possible near the heating plate in an effort to keep energy use reasonable. It has the additional benefit of helping to muffle the sound of the boiling water.
The mineral absorption pads do a reasonably good job of controlling mineral buildup. I live in a city with relatively hard water and I find I need to clean the unit and change the pad once a week. Get some cleaning solution designed for humidifiers (or white vinegar works, too) and cover the heating plate with it. It helps to slightly elevate the opposite end of the unit to encourage more of the cleaning solution to stay on the plate instead of draining into the rest of the tray. Let it soak for 30-60 mins and then use an old toothbrush to brush off the softened minerals. If it doesn't get clean on the first soak, repeat. You should be able to get it spotlessly clean without scrubbing.
Pros:
- Quiet, like you'd expect from a warm mist model
- Produces more humidity than any other model I've tried
- Three levels of humidity output
- Digital controls
- Hygrometer (humidity meter) that ACTUALLY WORKS ACCURATELY and is not tricked by the humidity generated by the unit
- Timer feature could be useful if you're not using it in the winter
- Doesn't produce any white dust like ultrasonic models do
- Sturdy construction; obviously well-designed
Cons:
- Mineral absorption pad needs to be replaced regularly (I've found weekly) for optimal operation
- Needs more cleaning than cool mist or ulatrasonic models (cleaning is relatively painless, though -- see comments above)
- Water tank could be larger, although you'll get 20-24 hours out of it on the normal output setting once you're maintaining the desired humidity
Again, I can't recommend this model enough.
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61 of 73 people found the following review helpful:
Mine leaked, burned up and stinks....., February 13, 2006
This review is from: Honeywell HWM450 Quick Steam Warm Moisture Humidifier (Kitchen)
After a year of trying to find a humidifier that works and doesn't break or gets nasty, I will help everyone by giving you my observations. First we tried those $25 cool mist humidifiers that require the $10 filters/wicks that need replacing every week because they are wrapped up with mold and are loud as an F-15 preparing to take off. I have tried probably every one there is and at one count I had five different ones. I don't remember the exact models, but Bemis and Holmes come to mind when I went to search for those always out of stock wicks. I thought I would go to the warm mist humidifiers because of the apparent purifying of the water through the steaming process, and no wicks. I put all my humidifiers near a heat/airvent (3'-4' away) approximately 3 feet off the floor on a small table to help dissipate the steam. My first one of these was the Honeywell HWM450. I really liked this one right out of the box. I put it together as described, filled it up with water, set the humidistat to the desired setting and turned it on. It immediately began spewing out the nice warm steam that the instructions said it would and kept our room (14' X 16') at a nice 45-50% humidity level according to my Oregon Scientific meter. After every tank full, I would take it apart and inspect the mineral pad and clean or replace it as described. This thing worked great, good steam, fairly accurate humidity reading (+/- 5%) and automatic operation, no problems until 29 days later (30 day return policy at store I bought it from) when it woke my wife and I from a nice sleep with a putrid plastic burning smell. I jumped out of bed to see what it was and it was the HWM450. I unplugged the thing and noticed it was sitting in water. I took the tank and control unit off to see what was happening. It appeared as if the heating element came separated from the base and let water seep through to the bottom, almost starting some type of fire or melting process. I packed it up and took it back to the store where they graciously took it back. I went to get another just like it thinking this was just a fluke, but luckily they were out and gave me a refund. I then came to the internet and began searching for others. Glad I did and read other reviews on this model so tossed out trying to get another. I then went to Sears and bought a Kenmore 15124 3-gallon warm mist humidifier. This is the one that needs cloth sleeves that fit over the heating element to absorb the minerals. I set it up according to the directions and let it run all night. On high setting, I could never get the room above 30%. This was futile. I boxed it up and took it back for a refund the next day. I may not have given it a fair chance, but even the cool mist humidifiers would get to 35% within 3 hours. I then found two Honeywell HWM-255's on clearance at the local big box. I snatched those up and took them home, set them up as instructed by the enclosed book and let them rip. One immediately started working and the other just sat there with a half working lcd display. I never got it to work and I took it back. The other one I set up in our bedroom and noticed the humidistat didn't give an accurate reading as tested with my Oregon Scientific hygrometer. I did fiddle with it enough to get it to cycle on and off to the level I wanted using my OS hygrometer as a base line. To get 45-50% humidity in the room, the HWM-255 had to be set on 75%. Thus far, I like the one that works. It seems easy enough to clean, no filters, wicks or mineral pads and the reservoir sits nicely upside down when filling. Just have to wipe off the heating element every filling, but that is cheaper than those filters. I then decided to get another one for a backup since these things seem to self-destruct regularly. Since I have one that apparently works, I was in no hurry to buy one. I read some reviews and had a few models in mind and I would investigate them as I saw them in local stores. I was in a local towel/linen store waiting on my wife one day when I saw a huge amount of steam coming from one corner. This caught my eye since I have been on this humidifier search now for a while. I walked over and saw several models sitting on a pile of boxes with several TV's playing videos about each one. After watching these videos on each model displayed, I proceeded to work the knobs and turn various ones on and off, take them apart and look inside them and just gave them a generally good going over. After digesting all the info I then purchased a Venta Sonic VS100. I couldn't make myself buy the Air O Swiss one, but if I had not bought so many before, I probably would have. I took this one home, set it up according to the directions and turned it on. It didn't take long for it to start working and within two hours, it had the bedroom up to 50% humidity from 30%. Its tank wasn't hard to fill, but it did take a moment to fill up the cartridge where the water fill is so would start letting water down to the heater. When it reached the desired humidity level, I adjusted the two knobs on it to where it would cycle on and off. It emptied the tank in one night and I finally got a good night sleep without waking up with dry throat. This thing just spews out the nice steam/mist profusely. With all this said, here are a few observations. 1) Don't rely on the built in humidistat (humidity indicator). Have a separate one to measure you room's humidity. It is better to have a dial type humidity controller that works than a digital one that doesn't. 2) Cheap prices on these things are not good. You do get what you pay for. It seems like the ones that the price started out >$90 is better. Just buy 1 @ >$100, then 8 @ $30. 3) Keep your receipt and original packaging and buy from a vendor with a good return and customer service policy. Chances are you'll have to return the cheap ones. 4) These reviews are fairly accurate and are good aids for decision making. 4) Cool mist humidifiers are germ factories. 5) If you buy one that requires replacement filters, cartridges, wicks, make sure they are readily available or stock up when you buy the unit. 6) Place a humidifier off the floor preferably not on top a heat vent and if you have a ceiling fan, turn it on. 7) Don't leave these things running without being watched until you know what they will do. 8) Get one size bigger than what you think you need. Daily water output is a better indicator than room size capacity. 9) All these things do is introduce water into the air. Warmer air holds water better than cold air. Old timers used to put a pot of water on their wood stoves to do the same thing. If you have a wood stove, you don't need a humidifier just more pots of water. I'll update this as more info comes available.......
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16 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
Great for two weeks, January 17, 2007
This review is from: Honeywell HWM450 Quick Steam Warm Moisture Humidifier (Kitchen)
I'm not happy with this purchase. First, it's annoying that humidifiers advertise themselves as "3.5 gallon" or "4 gallon" products and then, when you get the thing, it has this tiny little 1.5 gallon tank on it. Sure, it'll put out 4 gallons, if you're around to fill it several times a day. I have a large area, and heat with a wood stove, so I need something that will put out a lot of moisture. For this price, I was expecting it to be larger.
Still, I was impressed with some things about this item. It was completely silent (very important to me), and it did work more quickly than some others I had. So, I decided to keep it, but to use my noisier cool-mist humidifier (which sounds like a jet engine) as a backup for when this one went dry while I was out. I set it up, got rid of the boxes, and was satisfied with this arrangement for two weeks.
Then, the thing quit on me. I'd kept it clean, I'd gone through all the troubleshooting instructions, but it just died. Of course, I wanted to return it, but then I noticed that Amazon won't take it back unless you have the original boxes. Well, who keeps those around when you're planning to keep the item?
It died on a weekend, so the manufacturer's number wasn't answering. We'll try to deal with them directly for a replacement, but so far, it looks like we just threw away a lot of money for an undersized piece of junk.
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26 of 30 people found the following review helpful:
Really poor design, January 6, 2007
This review is from: Honeywell HWM450 Quick Steam Warm Moisture Humidifier (Kitchen)
This humidifier worked great...for about 3 weeks. Then it just completely died. I only used it for 6 hours each night, so I know it wasn't getting over-used. Rather than fighting with "kaz, inc.," the actual manufacturer of this product (NOT Honeywell), and trying to get it fixed under warranty, I decided to take apart the completely dead humidifier to see if I could fix it. It turns out the heating element is actually a little, tiny resistor (about 8mm long by 3mm diameter), which is surrounded by an asbestos-type sleeve, inside a little aluminum tray, which has some white silicone grease and is pressed up against what I used to think was the "heating element," but is actually just a large aluminum disc. Well, wonder of all wonders, the little tiny resistor is what failed, and that ended up preventing any electrical power from getting to the rest of the humidifier (electronics, etc.) So it is truly dead, and the only way to revive it would be to replace that little tiny resistor, but I have a strong suspicion that the replacement won't last very long, either. It's a terrible design.
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