MOST 5-star reviews from 1-review people only! An intervention by Vintage Publishing!


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In reply to an earlier post on May 30, 2012 10:56:52 AM PDT
Gabi44 says:
I like your honsety and apoligize if i came over harsh, it ticked me off how unethical James is ,now she demands other FF writers not to touch her characters ,who she conviently stole from SM. At least Meyer shows some Values . I personally will never understand the draw Fifty has because its such an unhealthy relationship for any woman and the writing is below an essay of a 5th grader. Maybe someone will take it to a new level with better character development and writing skills as much as of portraying the woman in the story as a strong individuel

Posted on May 30, 2012 12:53:07 PM PDT
J.L. Penn says:
Gabi - No offense taken. :) I've been accused of it on other forums before, even though I was just trying to join a discussion. People tend to assume that if you admit you're an author, you're trying to push your wares. I understand it, and it certainly does happen. Those are usually very thinly veiled though.

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2012 8:29:00 PM PDT
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Onmykindle says:
I didn't. I hit the back button on my browser before I got to the first sex scene because the writing was so horrific, I knew my evening would be better spent at the cheezburger network (because I tired reading it back when it was still a Twilight fanfic.)

I probably wouldn't have if I *had* been able to continue reading. Rape fantasies aren't my thing.

Posted on Jun 8, 2012 7:10:02 AM PDT
Whether people like it or not, it doesn't change the fact that Bob Guccione has been putting this kind of crap out for years, yet every woman acts as if they stumbled upon something different and edgy, get over it, it's not different or edgy. The success lies in the fact that for some reason if a British woman writes anything, it's supposed to be highly regarded.

Posted on Jun 8, 2012 7:10:07 AM PDT
Whether people like it or not, it doesn't change the fact that Bob Guccione has been putting this kind of crap out for years, yet every woman acts as if they stumbled upon something different and edgy, get over it, it's not different or edgy. The success lies in the fact that for some reason if a British woman writes anything, it's supposed to be highly regarded.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2012 3:31:00 PM PDT
MatterOfFact says:
I believe the sales are due to the (fake) hype. This is seriously dishonest marketing given the quality of the writing. It is one thing to just like a book or not...totally personal. But when such poor writing skills, seriously sub-standard gets this much media and good reviews then something is not right.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2012 9:35:05 PM PDT
J.L. Penn says:
I really don't think the sales can be chalked up to marketing because it was a bestseller before any marketing kicked in. In fact, there really hasn't been that much marketing that I'm aware of. E.L. James has not done many interviews and they're certainly not advertising the book on TV between cartoons or anything like that. I think most people heard of it one of three ways, and in this order: Twilight fan fiction, word of mouth, or the bestsellers list. I think everyone agrees, including E.L. James, that the books have plenty of technical flaws, but clearly the story captivated millions of women. This is clearly a love it or hate it book, as evidenced by the completely polarized reviews, but the love or hate is real. I blame the media for a lot (like clearing the local grocery store shelves of bread and toilet paper when there's a hint of a flurry in the forecast!), but not for the popularity of these books. Besides, the sales are sustained. It would have been a very quick flash if people weren't genuinely enjoying the books and telling others.

To the review end, I have to say I'm just staggered by the sheer number of reviews the first book has. Every single time I click on the book, the number of reviews has increased - multiple times in a given day! Just as a matter of perspective, I ran a 1-day freebie promo for my novella last month. Between the promo and regular sales, I moved over 7,000 copies last month. I've seen ONE new review so far. To get over 5,000 reviews and at this pace is just mind-blowing to me. If I sound jealous, it's because I am!!! LOL ... Well, not so much of all those 1-stars. ;)

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2012 10:23:54 PM PDT
MatterOfFact says:
DON'T be jealous of anything related to this particular so called book PLEASE! Personally, I'd rather have entire existence ignored than to have worldwide acknowledgement for producing such complete and utter rubbish as James has. If it helps at all, I've read well over a dozen books in the last year and this was the first review I wrote. A lot of people will only review if the book is a 10 or as in this case for me, a -10! Besides her average is just over 3, that is slightly warmer than neutral! Pathetic, but well deserved ;)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 10, 2012 8:53:26 AM PDT
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W.Westphal says:
Well have you been? Everywhere I look I see this book being hyped. I mean, even Ellen from American Idol vidoe taped herself reading this in public. ABC has devoted an entire article about it. Yeah, I would have to say that all the celebs are adding to its hype.

Yeah, every couple of days there seem to be another hundred reviews. The one star reviews are catching up the fives.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 10, 2012 9:38:19 AM PDT
J.L. Penn says:
W - But the hype was reactive, not proactive in this book's case. The media seemed rather blindsided by it. They weren't saying, "Wait til you read this book that's coming out;" they were saying, "Everyone's talking about this bestseller." It snuck up on them. By that time, the numbers were already through the roof. Hype may now be responsible for selling some books, but it wasn't what catapulted them into the success they've had.

MatterOfFact - I like to think I'm too neurotic to put something out with so much redundancy, but I nonetheless sure do wish I wrote it! ... Much like I wish I wrote Harry Potter, Twilight, etc. ;)

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 10, 2012 9:46:17 AM PDT
W.Westphal says:
Well I am not going to try to deny that this book would have gotten fame with or without the media. I think what gave FSOG the boost it needed(at least at first) may have been its origins as a fan fiction. Hundreds of people read it there.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 10, 2012 11:18:05 AM PDT
Gabi44 says:
Actually it was 75.000 subscriber to snowqueen /Icedragon aka E.L .James on FF. and more who just read it without Notification. Pretty good start for a Book. I know people who would give their left foot for that kind of exposure

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 10, 2012 12:19:25 PM PDT
W.Westphal says:
75,000????? Wow, it started off bigger than I thought. I know Fan Fiction is read by many people though, for example, Cassandra Clair had many followers for her Draco fan fiction.

Posted on Jun 10, 2012 1:52:48 PM PDT
J.L. Penn says:
Geez, I think I need to look into fan fiction! LOL

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 5:35:23 AM PDT
Gabi44 says:
There are some mind boggling fantastic Stories on there , way better than Fifty.

Posted on Jun 11, 2012 6:00:51 AM PDT
Ebeth822 says:
A friend of mine self published some Beauty and the Beast fanfic way back when. A lot of fanfic has something to offer even for non-fans. And even uncredentialled and previously unpublished authors have the potential to generate some good literature. What James has done with it is such a shame. Those who took fanfic seriously will continue to do so. Those who don't take fanfic seriously but like FSoG because they sooo love Twilight or because it made their naughties tingle might search fanfic for other pseudoporn. Others may have never given fanfic a thought before and will avoid it like the plague now, knowing it spawns such half-assed tripe.

Posted on Jun 11, 2012 8:10:34 AM PDT
J.L. Penn says:
I meant as a writer - because of the 75,000 readership - that's huge!

BTW, thanks for the review, Ebeth! :)

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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012 12:54:02 PM PDT
JEALOUS? A dysfunctional ginger? LOL-don't think so.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 18, 2013 5:01:36 AM PDT
Frankie says:
Uggghhh. I've been trying for almost a month now to read The Bronze Horseman. I'm just over half-way through it, and am about to give it up. Same annoying formula...Hot guy inexplicably becomes obssessed with a younger, innocent girl. Plot continually contrived to bring them together and separate them. I dunno. I've read too much excellent historical fiction, beginning with Margaret Mitchell, who set the standard with Gone With the Wind, then Herman Wouk, Diana Gabaldon, Ken Follett and others who made less of an impression on me to know when an author is really skilled at the craft and am having trouble lowering my expectations. If I had any affinity for Alexander, I might be pushing forward for what I am assuming will eventually be a steamy sex scene, but he doesn't do much for me.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 18, 2013 12:51:12 PM PDT
Pamelia A. says:
Frankie, I have yet to dive into the book yet. I bought it when it was on sale and haven't been in the mood for a Russian-set story yet -- mostly because they'll either be Czar-era tales where I have to cringe about the treatment of the serfs or they'll be Revolution era-tales where I have to cringe about a gorgeous culture getting burned to the ground --- I just can't win with them! I confess that for historical romance I love books set in England best of all and tend to gravitate towards those and have been reading Courtney Milan, Laura Kinsale, Julie Ann Long and Sarah MacLean to get my historical romance fix on.
I don't mind hot guy/innocent girl set ups necessarily , but prefer when they get turned on their heads by having the hot, worldly, powerful guy get all tangled up in knots while the "guileless" girl runs the show (I think Julie Ann Long's "What I Did for a Duke" is a really good example of this). Like you I can't stand when plot elements don't feel organic to the story, but rather seem to be set up like an obstacle course. One day I'll try "The Bronze Horseman" but I'm not in the mood yet.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 18, 2013 2:07:24 PM PDT
Frankie says:
This is actually set during WWII; the siege of Leningrad. Maybe part of my problem is that I'm drawn more towards historical fiction than historical romance. I'd say The Bronze Horseman is sort of straddling the line, and not doing either genre justice.
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