The nominations are in. Who do you think deserves to be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of fame in March of 2010?

I let a little time pass after the 2009 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Ceremony.

It's time to look at who's been nominated and who more than likely will get in.

For those who are new to the process of being voted in, here is how it works,

1) An artist/band becomes eligible after 25 years has elapsed from the time of their first recording release

2) Next they must be nominated by the Foundation's nominating committee which is comprised of rock and roll historians

3) After they have been nominated, ballots are sent to an international voting body of more than 500 rock experts.

4) The performers who receive the highest number of votes (which must be more than 50 percent of the voting body are inducted

5) The Foundation usually inducts five to seven performers each year

The 2010 nominees which will be voted on in March 15, 2010 are:

ABBA
The Chantels
Jimmy Cliff
Genesis
The Hollies
KISS
LL Cool J
Darlene Love
Laura Nyro
Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Stooges
Donna Summer

Ballots will be sent to more than 500 voters, who will select artists to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame at the 25th Annual Induction Ceremony on March 15, 2010 at the Waldorf Astoria in New York City.

So who does everyone think it will be?

JT

Dunno who it WILL be, but I know who it SHOULD be:
THE STOOGES! Long Overdue! Iggy is a true Living Legend!
(But- did they have to wait until the year Ron Asheton died?!)

No one else on the list is even close. LL Cool J? Laura Nyro?
Does the Baseball Hall of Fame induct Cricket players???????
Then, why does RRHOF even mention these artists? Not right.

Bernie Williams.

I miss seeing him out there this time of year.

As with ANY and EVERY year, the nominations and the inductees will be argued about and usually the arguement will center around exactly what IS rock and roll and how narrow do we want it's definition to be.....if we get too narrow, we'll end our nominees around 1958-61 with the end of rockabilly, doo wop and Berry, Little Richard and Fats.

Of those nominated, I'd pick Iggy too. Why? Because I think he embodies the rock n roll spirit and has been massively influential in the development of the music, if you believe, like I do, that it HAS developed. The Stooges were awesome at times and Iggy's solo work usually maintained that punk/rock attitude throughout the years.

But, unlike Mr. Knox, I'd probably choose Laura Nyro, The Chantels, Darlene Love and Donna Summer next, in that order. Why? Because they all were, again, influential in the development of the music......in the case of all of these, there are those that would argue that what they did was NOT rock n roll. Actually, if we consider the music that was first called rock n roll, most of the favorites of today's Hall of Fame critics would not pass muster. They are using an evolutionary sense of rock music too. The fact is, much of the pop/rock of the 60's WAS coming out of the "girl group" sound and that sound was originated by none other than The Chantels in the 1950's.

If we eliminate the pop end of pop/rock, we'd eliminate everything except hard rock, heavy metal and progressive. Since a lot of the loudest whiners have been hard rockers and progressive fans, that shouldn't surprise me.

I say, embrace it all if it's good music. LL Cool J? Why not? Rap has as much connection with the earliest rock n roll (which initially WAS r&b) as a lot of the stuff that's always mentioned as deserving.

As for progressives, I'd hardly start with Genesis, although they did a few pretty good albums in that genre before going pop (and I'm talking bad and boring pop).

Yeah, give me inductions of The Stooges, Laura Nyro and The Chantels and I'll be happy.....

ed.

I honestly hope it is Genesis, they've been eligible for over 15 years, and they haven't yet been nominated. I also hope it is the Red Hot CHili Peppers too.

Warren Zevon has got to be inducted into the RRHOF. It's an injustice that he continues to be overlooked.

The Stooges
Darlene Love
Laura Nyro
The Chantels
Jimmy Cliff

Yeesh, what a horrible list. I wouldn't vote for any of them. How can Jimmy Cliff be nominated before Toots & the Maytals? Why have such major soul acts like Jerry Butler and The Spinners remained overlooked? What about Mott the Hoople? Alice Cooper? I'm no fan of Roxy Music but I will admit they have been far more influential than The Hollies or the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
I am happy to see Darlene Love on the list. She is not well known but has a great voice and sang on many major early 60s girl group hits. And I thought Donna Summer had already been inducted. Again, I'm not a fan but she is a major artist. Others may belong in there eventually, but I consider it criminal that KISS would be in before Alice Cooper. Or Genesis before Yes or Jethro Tull (heck, I'd rather see Peter Gabriel make it as a solo artist before Genesis gets in). Or The Stooges before MC5. Oh, well.

If Joni Mitchell is already in, then her contemporary Laura Nyro deserves the same level of recognition.

They waited until Sterling died from the Velvets too. The sad part is they still had nearly THREE years in which they could have done that before he died. Having said that, the Stooges. I've never really followed the Hall of Shame - do they admit more than one act a year? In that case, Laura Nyro too.

I hope if Genesis is inducted that Peter Gabriel is included. Genesis was much better with Gabriel. My true wish is for Link Wray to be inducted as he was (and still is) an enormous influence on rock music. That said I really don't believe that artists who are not rock and roll should be enshrined.

KISS all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Red Hot Chili Peppers and Genesis

Chili Peppers for the WIN!

Timmybear,

They usually induct 4 or 5 with a big name act always getting inducted.

I think Laura Nyro is a shoe in.

JT

I think Abba is going to be inducted, most difinitely.

BTW, not that it should make anyone happier about their personal favorite NOT being selected, but ALL Hall of Fames or honors for excellence are subject to forces that transcend mere talent. The biggest, of course, is personal taste.

Let's take the Oscars, Emmys, Tonys, Grammys for instance. Name one of those that reflect, with their yearly selections and even their honorary "life achievement awards" all that are deserving. All you can hope for is that those that DO make it are deserving, too. But "most deserving" is both subjective and subject to forces we can only guess at.

Besides, the Hall of Fame is NOT simply honoring inductees. It is supposed to be the story of the music, from the precursers to the trailblazers to, yes, the giants, both commercially and critically. I think Captain Beefheart is more talented that a large number of the inductees and I'm quite certain he'll never make it. Does that make the Hall of Fame meaningless to me? Not hardly.

One of the best guitarist going today could be, dare I say ....a female.

Thanks to Michael Jackson, who hired her to play lead guitar on his up-coming tour, Orianthi Panagaris is becoming a household name.

She's earned the praises of Carlos Santana. She's performed with Prince and Eric Clapton and now she plans to bring back the old styled guitar solo's

Hold on to your jocks and watch one of the hottest guitar player's around.

I did I say she's really good looking to.

Orianthi Panagaris - tearing it up on guitar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXf8oJq049w

Orianthi Panagaris live at the Filmore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOiSdmC6M7k&feature=related

JT

My votes are for the Red Hot Chili Peppers and ABBA for 2010.

Does anyone think it's possible for Derek and the Dominoes to be inducted? It would be awesome if Eric Clapton became the only person inducted FOUR times, though he's still the only with 3. But Derek and the Dominoes only has 1 studio album, probably making it impossible.

This list of nominees is dreadful. The usual 50's & 60's leftovers. Jimmy Cliff? Donna Summer? Are we taking Disco seriously now? Stooges, LL Cool J, Genesis are fine by me. Its sad that these folks think that the mediocrity of the Chili Peppers represents the best in post-punk music. There's at least a dozen better bands, but The Replacements, Husker Du, & Sonic Youth would be a nice start. Abba is a band that gets into the Hall of Fame when there's no one else to elect. Looking at this ballot, it appears that this is their year.

ABBA - too many people love their music and they set the standard for male/female groups along with Fleetwood Mac there were many more who fell by the wayside of time's cruel passings.
Laura Nyro - if your a songwriter you can learn more from her compositions than just about anybody's she was a great great songwriter writing many #1 hit for someone else but not herself as she wasn't a bad singer at all but it's a fact other artists got the hits like Streisand (stony end #1), When i die ??? forget who did that one
Donna Summer - She was part of the radio for about a 10 period more so than anybody her hits were contagious and maybe the best female artist of the 70s
Genesis - They may seem hit and miss but they have a large body of work of course they had several incarnations as a band but they're still the same group that released a dozen or more discs and have been touring the past couple of years...hey if the Dave Clark Five get in they're a shoe in.
Kiss - I hate to put them on the list because i'm not a fan of their type of music but i can't deny them the hall of fame either because i know of their work and all their fans not to mention a decent amount of orginality after them there's not too many metal bands i'd consider.

Ed,

I'm going to post this on both Hall Of Fame threads

It's time to get your opinion/commentary on another up and coming Australian musician.

I don't know what it is about these Australian high school drop-outs but their trying to take America by storm.

First it was bassist Tai Wilkenfeld, who plays for Jeff Beck and now we have a guitarist named Orianthi Panagaris that Carlos Santana is already talking about passing the baton to.

Like Tai, she (yes it's another woman) dropped out of high school at 15.

Her dad is a musician so she learned to play the acoustic guitar at 6, the electric by 11 and opened for Steve Vai at the age of 15 which led to her meeting Carlos Santana.

Since then she has played at the Eric Clapton Crossroads Guitar Festival, jammed with Prince and was personally flown in to audition for the Michael Jackson World Tour where she was hired by Jackson on the spot.

Here's a few words from Carlos Santana followed by a little sampling of her work.

She looks great, plays great, I think she's the real deal.

Let me know what you think.

Orianthi Panagaris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXf8oJq049w

Orianthi Panagaris 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz8hZ53A32M&feature=related

Orianthi Panagaris - Michael Jackson rehearsal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMYs3o1z86w

JT

JT, I only just checked Orianthi on your recommendation and agree with you, she is quite a talent. And so young.

Now I will check out her bio on wikki as I have never heard of her before.
Thanks.

No one has mentioned the Hollies. They were an important British Invasion group with a unique sound and style that set them apart from the rest. Their harmonies were absolutely exquisite -- no one except maybe the Everley Brothers could touch them. They had a reputation as being the band other bands admired. It's amazing to me that the Dave Clark Five, who were popular (and heavily promoted) for a brief time but IMHO don't really seem too significant in retrospect, are in the Hall of Fame and not The Hollies or The Small Faces who seem much more influential, each in their own way (I won't get into the SF now -- that is for another time).
Also, Graham Nash of the Supergroup, Crosby, Stills, and Nash, came out of The Hollies. Stills' & Young's and Crosby's former bands, Buffalo Springfield and The Byrds have been honored but not The Hollies. Of course, The Byrds were an important and influential group, without question. But Buffalo Springfield? They were a great group, but they only had one hit record. People only became interested in buying their albums after CSNY became popular. Whereas the Hollies had hit after hit:
Bus Stop(Listed in Rolling Stones' 100 best songs), I Can't Let Go, On a Carousel, Stop, Stop, Stop, Look Through Any Window, Carrie-Anne, Jennifer Eccles, Pay You Back With Interest, etc. Many of their songs were co-written by band members Graham Nash, Allen Clarke, & Tony Hicks under the pseudonym L. Ransford.
When Graham Nash left, Terry Sylvester of the Swinging Blue Jeans replaced him and they continued with more hits -- Sorry Suzanne, Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress, The Air that I Breathe, and the original version of the anthem He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother.
I don't want to leave the impression that Graham Nash was the only noteworthy member of the Hollies. Lead vocalist Allen Clarke was fabulous and can sing anything. Lead Guitarist Tony Hicks and Drummer Bobby Elliot were both considered among the finest rock and roll musicians of the day. The Hollies and the Beatles were both on the Parlophone label and had both played the Cavern in Liverpool. It has been said that George Harrison was always very jealous of Tony's guitar playing and the fact that Tony was in such demand for session work.
If you aren't familiar with the Hollies, there are many performances posted on YouTube.