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Initial post: Mar 14, 2009 5:29:07 PM PDT
MarC says:
I've never read Rand before, but I have both Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead on my nightstand waiting to be read. I just came online and saw that this book is at around #30 in sales and has been doing well for quite awhile. I'm curious as to why, can anyone enlighten? Thanks in advance!

Posted on Mar 14, 2009 5:58:49 PM PDT
There is SO much anxiety in the U.S. on the part of productive people; those who work hard, those who create, those who employ, those who are entrepreneurs, those who have played by the rules and done the right things for themselves and thus, have helped build a bountiful society. If you don't believe our current society and system has worked well for most clean-living, hardworking people, look elsewhere in the world for comparison. With all our flaws, our system is still the best in the world and those who produce and are innovative are currently being taxed, shamed, corrected, and herded into submission by an increasingly socialistic/fascist/collectivist mind set. This mind set REQUIRES the clean-living, hard working innovators for the taxes for its myriad "programs" that carry all kinds of moral hazards for the masses (to work less and party more, for example because their needs and wants will be "provided for" by the ever-larger government). WHAT IF...the productive, hardworking people were to go "on strike"? WHAT IF...those carrying the majority of the tax and responsibility LOAD were to "SHRUG"? WHAT IF...these strong and productive INDIVIDUALS were to take their skills and ideas elsewhere and build a new society for just themselves and their families? In this age where doing the right things, working hard, risking much to start a business and make those payments are increasingly "penalized", it is NOT hard to see why there is such renewed popularity for Ayn Rand's works, esp. Atlas Shrugged.

Posted on Mar 14, 2009 10:48:26 PM PDT
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S. P. Hoyt says:
Every time Obama speaks the stock market goes down and the sales of Atlas Shrugged go up. This is not a mistake nor is it a coincidence. People know when something is very wrong and what Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are doing is very wrong.

When the stock market went up a very little bit the other day it had nothing to do with what Obama said. It had everything to do with the few business people who said that they are doing okay.

No matter how much it may look like Obama has high popularity ratings, the people who actually work, earn, contribute, and keep society going, are not trustful about where he is going while taking money from each and every person who adds to the economy.

Atlas Shrugged accurately predicts where socialism and communism will take the U.S. or any other country. It also offers a way to fight the socialistic mind set that is being promoted by our new government and the MSM.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 15, 2009 10:44:12 AM PDT
Sadie, just read them. You will understand.
Do you want someone to spoil the experience for you?

Posted on Mar 15, 2009 10:45:05 AM PDT
You won't really "get it" until you pick up one or the other and read it. If you're like many people, you won't be able to put it down (particularly in these times) once you start. I'd suggest "Atlas Shrugged" first.

Posted on Mar 15, 2009 12:03:29 PM PDT
A_Capitalist says:
Sadie, I really suggest starting with Anthem.

Posted on Mar 15, 2009 12:10:15 PM PDT
A_Capitalist says:
Atlas Shrugged is #1 in Classic Literature right now! Fountainhead is #6! Maybe people can get it.

http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1237144087/ref=sr_st?rs=10399&page=1&rh=n%3A17%2Cn%3A10399&sort=editionspsrank

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 15, 2009 12:46:57 PM PDT
MarC says:
Thanks again for all these responses. I plan on starting The Fountainhead this evening and will move on to Atlas Shrugged. Then perhaps I'll understand more fully.

Posted on Mar 15, 2009 6:14:20 PM PDT
K. Oshay says:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123698976776126461.html

"IS RAND RELEVANT?" in today's WSJ
This might bring a little clarity to your question :)

Posted on Mar 15, 2009 6:35:17 PM PDT
Pump it up says:
Atlas Shrugged is a must read! Phenomenal.

Posted on Mar 15, 2009 6:52:56 PM PDT
Rand:
1. Understood that earners/producers would be legally punished to subsidize failure itself in the future that we were heading towards;
2. Knew such socialism would cause disaster;
3. Loved America and freedom passionately;
4. Believed that only a better ~ philosophical ~ understanding of the urgent, practical need for human freedom could avert this disaster;
5.. And, finally, she provided that better understanding in the system of her thought, Objectivism.

Posted on Mar 17, 2009 7:46:06 PM PDT
Random says:
I think it's because we're living in the middle of the story right now, and people want to see how it's going to end.

Posted on Mar 17, 2009 7:52:38 PM PDT
Yep, right in the middle of that story.

Posted on Mar 24, 2009 7:55:35 AM PDT
I might add that one of the most terrifying things going on right now is that "Man-In-The-Street" interviews reveal an enormous number of Americans who have been convinced that "society" (or "the government") owes them a job, enough food to eat, a house, a car, and free medical insurance. The thought of actually going out to get these things for themselves strikes them as "fascist." I actually saw a TV clip of some woman whose car was being re-possessed and towed away as she watched. The reporter asked, "Aren't you worried?" The stunning answer was, "No! I gots Obama!"

Well, as Margaret Thatcher (another "fascist') pointed out, the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. Trying to keep your earnings for your own family gets a new name: "selfishness."

SPOILER

What is really brilliant about Ayn Rand is that she saw a way out of this awful situation. Rather than having "the workers" go on strike (yawn, been there, done that), she wondered what would happen if the great entrepreneurs went on strike. What would happen if Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and a few thousand other people simply walked off the job and vanished? This is something that needs to be seriously considered. In "Atlas Shrugged," the great inventors move to a hidden location. But in the 21st century, they might simply decide to relocate to Singapore or Poland or Taiwan --- to any country where they are not treated as "evil" and punished for their "obscene wealth."

Posted on Mar 24, 2009 3:35:12 PM PDT
S. Pleiness says:
I would welcome all lovers of Rand to go of to Taiwan or Poland or any other country were you think being a greedy prick is thought of so kindly. I bet you are in for a rude sooprise.....

Posted on Mar 24, 2009 4:00:32 PM PDT
"Being a greedy prick," meaning like those who made America what IT is?

Posted on Mar 24, 2009 4:40:24 PM PDT
D. Haralson says:
The reason that her works have all of sudden become popular again is because what she outlined in a work of FICTION, has all of a sudden become REALITY. Every morning we wake up to another policy outline, another wild-eyed idea presented by this out of control administration to FIX a problem, when they don't understand that THEY are the problem. While I applaude the people of this country for waking up to what our government is doing to our society and our way of life, particularly those who voted and supported Obama, it is worth noting that this is still a center-right country. The Communist Manifesto didn't go way up in sales after Bush was elected.

Posted on Mar 25, 2009 8:43:32 AM PDT
Scott Lacy says:
Copy of Atlas Shrugged: $13
Adult beverage while reading it: $3
"S. Pleiness" completely verifying Ayn Rand's premise by calling producers "Greedy Pricks": Priceless.

Posted on Mar 25, 2009 8:49:16 AM PDT
A. Hosner says:
Besides what has already been mentioned.

The popular Xbox 360 game Bioshock features many themes from the book, including an objectivist named "Andrew Ryan". Even the art in the game resembles that of the cover of Atlas Shrugged, and your guide throughout the game is named Atlas. Plus many places throughout the game feature cameos, such as the Fountainhead, and Anthem.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 25, 2009 9:24:49 AM PDT
I've heard that the game's a pretty thoughtless and shallow attack on Rand's ideas.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 25, 2009 9:47:45 AM PDT
S. Pleiness wrote: "I would welcome all lovers of Rand to go of to Taiwan or Poland or any other country were you think being a greedy prick is thought of so kindly. I bet you are in for a rude sooprise....."

Three words misspelled. Grammar barely functional. Let me try a rewrite:

"I would be delighted if all you Rand-lovers would leave for Taiwan or Poland or any other country where you imagine that greedy pricks are welcome. I bet you would be rudely surprised if you actually did so."

Notice that this posting basically contains no logical argument at all. If there is one, it is tantamount to saying: "I hope Honda and Toyota leave America and take their business operations to Mexico. I bet the Mexicans will hate them."

I am almost afraid to point out the obvious: that "greedy businesses" like Honda do some very good things. For one thing, they employ lots of people. For another, they pay lots of taxes, and their employees pay lots of taxes. If they pulled up roots and went to Mexico, Mexico would freeping pay their way!!!

And the looters in America (most surely including S. Pleiness) would find themselves missing a victim. If you think they are angry NOW, imagine how angry they will be when local unemployment soars, and tax revenues fall, and their "welfare checks" start being written as government IOUs.

In the meantime, Mexicans will have many thousands of new jobs, and Mexican tax revenues will soar.

The basic problem which S. Pleiness has, and which she cannot face, is that she thinks she owns her victims. Well, just for a little surprise here: I'm already gone.

Ooooh, didn't expect that, did you?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 25, 2009 10:08:12 AM PDT
Why is this book suddenly so popular again? Because it is eerily prophetic of modern events. It's like Rand looked 50 years into the future, foresaw the age of Obama, and changed the names to protect the guilty.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 25, 2009 12:08:38 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 25, 2009 12:18:56 PM PDT
Mark Cooney says:
"productive people; those who work hard, those who create, those who employ, those who are entrepreneurs, those who have played by the rules and done the right things for themselves and thus, have helped build a bountiful society."

this made me LOL! you're joking, right? why is our economy in total collapse then?

Capitalism = individualism = unbridled GREED

face it people, CORPORATIONS (the ultimate expression of capitalism) only motive is PROFIT. talking about playing by the rules? yeah...right.

Here's your CAPITALIST legacy, right here.

2.3 trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon budget!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread346398/pg1
A 'fraud' bigger than Madoff
Senior US soldiers investigated over missing Iraq reconstruction billions
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/a-fraud-bigger-than-madoff-1622987.html
The Case of the Missing $21 Billion
http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff06072006.html

Posted on Mar 25, 2009 12:19:25 PM PDT
It was the welfare-mentality effort to "make housing more affordable" which extended credit to those the free market would never have extended credit to in the first place. The state created Fannie and Freddie for just this purpose. This bad debt was sold and re-sold in a semi-nationalized banking world which had long ago abandoned the natural constraints of the free market under Fed supervision. Private and public debt has been running out of control, encouraged by government fiat money.

Obama has devalued the currency with reckless porinting -- nothing could erode private savings and investment worse -- and his has the GALL to say that he's encouraging savings and investment! He more than DOUBLES the existing deficits and has the NERVE to say that he "inherited" a deficit!

It is the productive people who gave this country what greatness it has ever known -- it is they who will keep us going if we are to survive, not the government -- and punishing the productive even MORE, as Obama demands, will only make matters worse.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 25, 2009 12:25:39 PM PDT
btw: Madoff -- and all his LIBERAL buddies -- and all the LIBERAL suckers who relied on the SEC to protect them -- are simply the MASTERS of the world of regulation. No matter how tight the regs -- expert ex-regulators like Madoff will find the loophole -- and agencies like the SEC will always provide them a false sense of security in selling their fantasy-dreams of state-protection. There is no substitute for the strictures of the market -- or the market for integrity.

Madoff is a CREATION of the state, too -- and he couldn't have ripped folks off WITHOUT cover from the SEC.
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