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this guy is completly finished

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Initial post: Jun 16, 2014 5:41:28 AM PDT
little john says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2014 7:42:39 PM PDT
nerd says:
I disagree. Perhaps if you think that the last 7 albums are awful then it may be more your taste than anything that is in conflict with the music he makes. He had at least 9 consecutive number one hits not to mention the hits that came afterward and those are all from some of the most recent records. If you believe that the soul of country is singing about trucks, beer, women and the ol' red white and blue, well he still does some of that. But I think it's refreshing to see an artist be an artist and not just a shill for the genre. I mean the Grand Ole Opry initially didn't let people in who played electric instruments. But they progressed and country music has flourished and has been able to reach an even wider audience now. Brad is another example of progression. Maybe it's not the direction that most country music pundits don't approve of but he's making music that is his own and different. And besides, it's not as if he has no respect for the soul/heritage/legacy of country music before him. He's collaborated with some of the greatest innovators in country and gives them great respect. In conclusion I think your final sentence is dead wrong. He's a musician who progressed to the point where he doesn't have to do it for the money anymore. He doesn't have to appease anyone, he can play his own music and people...well obviously not ALL people, but many still love what he has to offer. And what he offers is music based on his love for it.

Posted on Jun 21, 2014 2:38:37 PM PDT
G. Gomez says:
I agree that he has gone down hill over the past few years. I have gone to many of his concerts and bought all of his albums but think his older ones were far better. However, I don't think he is washed up yet by any stretch of the imagination. My taste in country music has not changed much, I think he is gradually changing to what I call the more pop type country. Not a bad thing if that suits your taste but not what most of his long time fans are looking for in his music.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2014 11:01:23 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 30, 2014 11:01:44 AM PDT
little john - Maybe you should learn how to spell and construct sentences, before you criticize talented country musicians like Brad Paisley!

Posted on Jul 1, 2014 2:55:16 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 1, 2014 2:56:20 AM PDT
little john says:
I never said that he is a bad musician,he is really good but with his lasts cds he is so far of a good point.we have enough country pop around there,if you like it,its ok but for me is completly finished.that change of syyle dont make him a favour and dont make a favour to the country music also

Posted on Jul 2, 2014 9:43:27 PM PDT
I have to say I like some of the experimentation (although some leaves me cold - the "duet" with Eric Idle was just awful) and I like the critical edge to some of his lyrics (anti-racist, pro-feminist, questioning mindless Southern Pride) in later albums. I also think his guitar playing just gets better and better, and his instrumental references to greats of the past are like an education in country music sometimes - the hard core country artist is still there under the pop sensibility. There weren't as many memorable songs on Wheelhouse as on, say 5th Gear, but it was still really listenable (the unexpected cross rhythms on Beat This Summer still seduce my ear every time I hear that song). This is Country Music, the album immediately before it, was a great album with some scorching songs on it. The Play album and the live album were both awesome. Even when his songs don't completely succeed, they still sound great. I'm looking forward to the next album to see where his vision is taking him, and I will even put up with a duet with Taylor Swift if that's what it takes.

Posted on Jul 3, 2014 12:18:06 PM PDT
little john says:
Please a duet with taylor swift? the big george jones used to say you can like the music of taylor swift or carrie underwood if you want and that must have a respect but they are so far for country,they are pop musicfor more that your radio try to convince you that the are country,they are more near for enrique iglesias that from the country and in fact in the usa is the only country in the world that put taylor swift in country in the rest of the world is pop and never in the country sections.i hope that we never must see a grat musician like brad paisley near of this for more that he experimented

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2014 12:22:05 PM PDT
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little john says:
I dont accept personal attacks.i just give my oppinion as you can have yours.its just music you can like whatever you want but for me this guy is finished.respect the Dusan d

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2014 6:29:21 AM PDT
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I agree with you,he is a good musician,but I never thought he has put together a collection of songs that fit together.a smorgasboard of experiments.annoying,seperately his singles are pleasing.

Posted on Jul 15, 2014 9:00:34 PM PDT
"This guy is completely finished"?? I disagree totally but if that was to be the case I also think its better to be completely finished than to have never started which is the category you and all his detractors on here are in. Like all musicians, he gets to make the music he wants to - if you dont like it then too bad - and quite frankly anyone who expects artists to be able to pump out albums with every song a winner on them over and over again doesnt know much about songwriting I suspect. "Too much experimentation" from one of you - so you would prefer if he just kept re-writing Mud on the tyres or The World over and over again to satisfy you instead of following his heart and making the music he wants to make? Forgive me for thinking its his life and he gets to do with it what he wishes. Brad Paisley is one of the best country artists in recent generations - a terrific musician with an awesome band, great sense of humour in his songs when applicable...and great heart at other times. He always stays true to his roots even when he is trying different things for the tele, the fiddle, the banjo and the lap steel are never far away. I'm yet to find a musician or band whom I like every single song they have ever made (even the Beatles) like some of you seem to expect an artist's albums to be like - but I am certainly able to find a lot of nobodies cutting down successful artists on the internet. How did your last album go naysayers? Brad Paisley "is the bomb" and I just wish he could find his way out to Australia.

Posted on Jul 16, 2014 5:38:07 AM PDT
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And as well, in concert, he is one of those rare musicians who NEVER puts down his guitar! I have seen him 8 times, from Nashville to Hamilton Ontario, to Saratoga NY and when he performs, for a solid 2 hours, he always has a guitar in his arms - one of many, he is always changing them up. Like a true musician, his first love is the instrument. His talent knows no bounds, nor his showmanship. His true love of music and love of his fans shines during his concerts! Washed up? Definitely not. I love the way all of his songs are meaningful, moving, sometimes funny, self-deprecating and different from one another. Keep it going, Brad. For your sake, Daniel, I wish he would go to Australia as well, we could share!

Posted on Jul 18, 2014 9:31:28 AM PDT
No matter what anyone says about him, Brad is one of the most versatile guitarists I have seen and heard. His closeness to the old timers and his love for music will take him to greater heights. I have been for one of his concerts, and I loved it.

Posted on Jul 23, 2014 3:52:44 AM PDT
mars says:
All washed up? Nay say I,he will go onto be one of the greats,right up there with Jones.Cash,Willie. He gives us different music which makes us think of social issues,years gone by,home towns ect. If it were always the same,how boring would that be? In concerts,he gives you your money worth,playing for 2 hrs,then oncor. Have bento some where not even 2 hours. Some of his music may not be for all, who are too closed minded,to see other views on situations. Play those licks Brad

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 23, 2014 12:51:28 PM PDT
mars: I don't disagree that Brad is great at what he does, some stumbles along the way notwithstanding, but I don't think he'll ever be immortalized alongside Johnny, Willie or Possum. For one thing, he makes too many novelty songs. I can't tell you how many people I've met that think Brad Paisley's music, and by extension ALL country music, is horrible just because of songs like "Ticks," "Online" and particularly "Accidental Racist" and the utter crap storm that followed it. None of the "greats" were so indebted to songs that were more schtick than substance. That's not to say that I don't enjoy any of these songs in question, it's just that they aren't what I would recommend to someone first dipping their toe into the waters of country music.

Also acting as a roadblock to his inclusion amongst the ranks of the greats is the fact that the country music fanbase has only become more polarized as the years have progressed. Back when Willie, Johnny and George were big there weren't as many people crying foul at the idea of pop influences infiltrating the genre. Sure, that's always been a part of the genre, but it's reached a fever pitch in the last few years with all of the hip hop, EDM, and otherwise electronic "influences" that are raping the sound of country music. Brad, despite starting out in the late '90s, will be forever associated with this movement, both because he was big during the "movement" and is starting to change his sound to align with it. It used to be that only an artist or two was criticized for not being "country," like Waylon Jennings, David Allan Coe or John Denver. Nowadays, entirety of the mainstream country music landscape is considered inauthentic, accurate or not. I like Brad just as much as many of his fans do but his circumstances may prevent his music from being appreciated the way that it should be in the long run.

Posted on Jul 24, 2014 1:28:10 PM PDT
Patrick says:
The argument over Brad Paisley's place in the panthoen of country music is like debating the best quarterback, third baseman or president...its great for online forums or the local bar but it largely depends on an individuals own perspective. I agree with many of the posters, contemp. country music would for the most part have been called pop 30 years ago.
I've seen Brad in concert 7 times now and some things that cannot be disputed are his musicianship and his desire to put on a great show for his fans. He is onstage the entire time, playing for 2 hours a night. He tours every summer but his shows are never the same, he is not to drop old songs out of the setlist or incorporate new songs.
His albums do tend to have a lot of filler but again that goes back to the buyers individual desires...would you rather plunk your cash down for 17 songs, some of which may not be the strongest, or have a 9 song 39 minute tight album??
His novelty songs are well know and loved by some but reviled by others but for every "online" there is a "letter to me" or "waiting on a woman" which are subjects that would be honored by tradition country artists. He is a heck of a gutar player and a fun time to see in concert.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 24, 2014 3:07:16 PM PDT
Patrick: Actually, I would say the debate about Brad's place in the genre's history is completely relevant. Think about it: the legends of the genre aren't questioned, more often than not. Hell, some of them are so well-loved and respected (like Johnny Cash) that critics will give their albums positive reviews based on who's name is on the cover. Another side effect of this popularity for certain legacy artists is that people who dislike country music try to remove their association with it, like Cash. I can't tell you how many people argue with me about his inclusion within the genre. Opinion of an artist's music is relative to the individual but their place in history is not. Hank Williams isn't my favorite country singer but I won't deny that he set the template. That isn't debatable, it's fact.

On the subject of albums, I'd honestly plunk down the same amount of money for a shorter album with grade A songs over one with more songs that are of inconsistent quality. Waylon Jennings' 1973 album "Honky Tonk Heroes" is 27 minutes long and has 10 tracks, and it's considered nothing less than a classic and also one of the greatest albums ever made, regardless of genre. All of Brad's albums are just under an hour long, but does he have one that could compare in terms of critical repute? I think not (and I actually like Brad's music better than Waylon's). When it gets right down to it, I understand the argument of getting more bang for your buck. But if the quality takes a hit, it's less bang than it is thud. What good is getting 17 songs on an album if only half are worth your time?

Also, I was never debating his guitar prowess or stage show. He deserves all of the accolades he has received and more. I was simply commenting on how his music is perceived by many non-fans. I myself have all of Brad's albums, including his live/greatest hits album "Hits Alive." I plan to pick up his latest when it hits stores even though I wasn't too impressed with "Wheelhouse" or the first single off of "Moonshine in the Trunk." I'm also only 21, so despite my old codgerish comments I'm really just trying to speak without bias as to how Brad is seen outside of his circles and how history might view his music in the years to come.

Posted on Jul 25, 2014 11:15:04 AM PDT
I find it funny that I remember when comments like this were made about some of the greats. Waylon, Willie and the boys were all criticized at one time for topics, or content, or straying from the mainstream. All of them were unconventional for their time. Brad is the very embodiment of country music quite frankly which has always been about going against the grain. Country music is about rebellion, about stories, about life and there's nothing 'conventional' about any of those. There isn't a single artist anywhere who has ever put out a song, or an album even, that somebody didn't like. So what. That certainly doesn't indicate they're 'washed up' and anyone who is that critical...I challenge you to do better. While you're sitting in your recliner being hypercritical, he's writing music, getting even better at already brilliant guitar picking and laughing all the way to the bank. No...I don't like all of his songs. Yes I think some albums are better as a whole than others, but by no means do I think we've seen the limit of his talent or writing. He's innovative as all good musicians are. Many of the 'greats' have reinvented their entire personna and repitoire'. Look at Madonna for goodness sake. Brad is doing what he needs to do to push the envelope, keep it entertaining, keep selling albums and creating a unique style and brand. There isn't a country fan out there that can't tune into XM in the middle of a Paisley song and not know immediately that's Brad's picking. No different than Van Halen. You immediately know that sound. THAT is what makes him relevent and THAT is what's keeping the platinum albums needing new wall space. Innovation is part of the American fabric. Don't have to like it, but you have to accept it and acknowledge there are few better at in, especially in this genre', than Brad. Washed up indeed.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 25, 2014 12:34:29 PM PDT
You are so absolutely spot on when it comes to tuning into whatever radio station - and you can ALWAYS recognize the brilliance and depth of Brad's playing! Even if you've never heard the song, there is no mistaking his talent. Can't wait to see what the upcoming years bring!

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In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 5:54:36 PM PDT
I said he was a good musician,never said I did not think he was funny or a nice person.i even like his singles,just not his albums.not that he could not make a good one I just say he has yet to do it.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 11, 2014 3:03:44 AM PDT
I totally agree with your post, Daniel. I've been a fan of Brad's since the beginning and have watched (or should I say heard) the broadening of his output. No, I don't like every cut on every album and indeed even as a huge Beatles fan they had some cuts I detested. But you are so right on the money in your statements. If you don't like the direction of his album, don't buy it. But don't diminish him as an artist.

Posted on Aug 21, 2014 10:53:32 AM PDT
Joe Mertz says:
Time well wasted and 5th gear are GREAT albums. Everything after 5th gear has just got progressivley worse. IMO he should have stuck with Frank Rogers and never built a personal studio. My ear tells me he didn't even use guitar amps on the last 2 albums. Everything sounds processed and fake.....which tells me he is looking for faster, easier and cheaper ways to record....and I can hear the cheapness in every song. It's very disappointing.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 1, 2014 1:30:27 PM PST
Susan, you've seen him EIGHT times? He was here in Cleveland a while back and I wanted to go, but a ticket was about $100. Glad your rich, The price of country shows has gone out of sight. I've been a country fan before, as the saying truly goes, "country isn't country anymore". Watching a Taylor Swift concert is like a female Elvis. Lots of screaming and arm waving, stage with dancers and a lot of "shaken". Haven't followed Brad closely, but early sightings showed him to be a great guitarist, what ever he is playing.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2014 5:04:46 AM PST
Totally agree about Taylor Swift - she never was true country to begin with. I prefer concerts like Alan Jackson and George Strait, and of course, Brad! As far as the prices, yes they are going through the roof, but the Brad Paisley Fan Club tickets are about $60 to $70! That's what I paid for in Nashville, and Saratoga, and each time he comes to Darien lake. No, I am not rich, I just know how to spend the $ I have! Well worth it.
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