you don't have to buy the DLC if you don't agree with it, just play the base game. if you somehow feel "cheated" after all the content in the game because there's a small amount locked in DLC, that's your prerogative.
Just wanted everyone to know that TimeToRise already acknowledged that he is a troll. I can't believe he is still doing this, but wanted to give everyone a heads up. Please ignore him and buy this amazing game. The DLC is most likely useless and not worth it, anyway. This game is going to mindblowingly awesome and will be worth every penny.
so what. now capcom is taking ALL dlc off discs. so here's what people did to themselves:
DLC via Capcom will no longer be on the discs, this means (and they stated it) that when they release DLC now and you buy it, you have no hard copy of it. so you are paying for the same content just not getting it on the disc. that's so silly. still I will buy dragons dogma because I love RPG's.
See, I refuse to buy Capcom games on launch anymore because this inevitably means there will be a game of the year-ish edition, a mega version, a gold version, a remixed version, a turbo version, a ultimate version or a super version made eventually that's the same disc just with the content already on it unlocked.
I'd rather have the DLC on the disc than the hard drive. I was surprised how quick 60GB filled up. In all honesty, if you don't like it go blame pirates, gamestop, or ebay. You cannot blame developers for trying to make money. If anything, the developers should be giving free DLC to original purchasers and charge 2nd hand people.
It's true about piracy and second-hand purchasing. That's what gave rise to the incresingly popular online access codes, to ensure developers get something each time the game is sold.
Personally, I can see good points to all sides of the argument. Shoe companies don't whine when you buy shoes at a garage sale, nor do clothing companies when you buy old clothes. There's no add-on fees to wear them.
However, since I really enjoy videogames, I'd rather they make profits and not make shoes or shirts that fall apart in two or three weeks. >_>
In the end however, it is what it is. People who are gamers first will continue as always, people who are financially conscience may end up leaving the game industry. There's really no reason to debate it.
I don't mind the on-disk DLC as long as I get good value out of the core game. And I always feel that I've gotten good value after I've waited a few months for the price to come down before buying a game (as I'm going to do with Dragon's Dogma). Bottom line, stop preordering games and stop buying them at full price. Publishers will get the message and start including more content in the original release.
Seeing as their wasn't any DLC before this console generation, I wonder how they made money the many generations before this one without it... Seriously, dont defend this kind of DLC with such ridiculous reasoning.
Wow, I have to comment on this because I'm amazed at how many people don't see a problem with on-disc dlc. It isn't an issue of whether or not the dlc data should be on the disc. That's irrelevant. When a developer/publisher puts dlc on a disc, it means they decided to carve elements out of a completed game and sell it to you just for the sake of milking more money out of people. That's an abuse of dlc and should not be tolerated or else we'll just get more of it. The way dlc should be handled is it should be developed AFTER the original game is completed and released sometime after the original game reaches the market. And if dlc appears for sale off-disc the same day or a week after a game releases, then that's just as bad as putting it on a disc and making you pay to unlock it because it means that the dlc content was completed during the original development cycle and might have well been included on the disc for no extra charge. Capcom has egregiously abused dlc and deserves all the criticism they get. A good example of how to do dlc right would be Fallout 3 where they released several dlc packages many months apart.
You obviously don't know much about game design and computer programming. The Witcher: 2 is a perfect example of how DLC should be handled. CDProjekt Red made a lot of money without having to penny pinch its customers; their practice leads to more loyal fans and more money. Who cares if many games have this system; its practice doesn't make it anymore right. I was trying to overlook Capcom's obvious greed because I'm intrigued with Dogma, but everyone's mindless bowing is making me cringe.
You're right, I don't know a whole lot about game design or computer programming, but I highly doubt you know that much about them either. I reached my conclusion using sound logic. And just because "Many games have [on-disc dlc] doesn't justify it or make it okay.