i'm starting to get into a lot of sci fi and fantasy. and i've been looking at stuff, and came across somewhere that not all of orson scott card's stuff is clean. i love the romance in books, i just hate it when the author describes everything in detail. so could someone give me a list of stuff by orson scott card that is clean (i haven't read anything by him yet, so also please put it in order of what to read first) thanks!
Clean? What do you mean by that? Free of cussing? You may get a few minor oaths in his books, but that's about it. Sex though, he really doesn't do descriptive drippy sex scenes very well, except this one scene in this one book that involved an alien. I'd read Ender's Game and Seventh Son and go from there.
Usually he tends to have graphic violence though. I'd much rather read sex than that.
I do not know where you got the "unclean" idea on OSC books. I would recommend them to anyone who wants to read some of the best sci fi ever written. Beware though: he will actual make you THINK about what he has written and the thematic ideas contained in his stories. I have read every book (and most short stories and novellas) that he has ever written. You really should start with Ender.
Some of his novels may have more adult themes than others, but I've read just about every book and story he's ever written, and there's only one book I might consider keeping from a teenager, and that's Treason. Not because of any graphic descriptions, necessarily, but like I said... more adult themes.
I have found the vast majority of OSC's work to be very clean. Some of the themes may be more adult, but there is limited cursing, limited violence, and few if any sex scenes (he tries sex a little in Enchantment but even then it's very tame). I have yet to find pre-marital sex in any of his books. Ender's Game is actually on many high school reading lists, and is about as clean as it gets.
If you want dirty, see George RR Martin (for gore, incest and teenage/midget sex) or Laurell K Hamilton (for porn masquerading as fantasy). OSC? Totally tame.
uh I think you misunderstood what they meant by "clean" as in free of violence. Because his books are all about sci-fi geniuses in space, training for war. The main characters and most characters actually are guys and really, there's only like 3 books with romance in it. And it's the sweet I-would-do-this-for-you kind of romance, not explicit or ANYTHING in that nature. It doesn't have much romance in the beginning, so i suggest you to read book one "ender's game" for intro into the story. then skip to the other series he writes (the stories restarts from the POV of another character) book one "ender's shadow". THAT is where the romance will stem from, but the romance still doesn't make an appearance yet until book 2 to the end of the series (Bean's Series, not Ender's Series. btw those names are the character's names. weird i know but you'll get it when you read it).
The original "Ender trilogy" by Orson Scott Card is on most school's reading lists, and expected digested literature prior to entering college. Try oldest Marion Zimmer Bradley's Pern series and older Mercedes Lackey trilogies? Many book chains will show you local book reading lists - these tend to be quality. Many high schools and colleges have on-line reading lists - these, again, are selected for their value far above minor swearing, romance or battles. For cleaner books, check with an editor from your religion's nearest paper - but be aware that you are missing the positive & good qualities that colleges feel help students develop an awareness of story development of character, factions, subplots and a great story!
About the "clean" thing. I think someone confused OSC's books with the author. Card is, unabashedly, homophobic. But it does not come across in any of the 10 or 12 books I have read by him, including the Ender Wiggin saga.