|Item Weight||2.4 ounces|
|Product Dimensions||9.7 x 6 x 2.5 inches|
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|Item model number||ALL11017|
|Manufacturer Part Number||ALL11017|
|OEM Part Number||ALL11017|
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Allstar Performance ALL11017 Bleeder Bottle with Magnet and Check Valve
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Contain the mess of bleeding brakes with this easy to use kit. Fluid is captured in a large capacity 16 oz. bottle to help keep your driveway or garage floor clean! The removable cap has a built-in fitting to secure the hose during storage helping to prevent fluid leaks and spills after the job is done. Kit is suitable for multiple use on most automotive brake systems.
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I would recommend that the quality of this product justifies its added expense.
-The hose is a thick-walled, soft, silicone material. It stays firmly attached (& air tight) to bleeder nipples regardless of turning or light tugging. It is easy to position/route, and see-through (allowing you to check fluid color & air contamination). Much better than a vinyl type hard-walled hose.
-The check valve seems to work well. Not a necessity, but again, I went with the "buy once" motto. It sure is a nice convenience at the very least. a 1/4" in line check valve would run you at least $3-4 from what I found. When you disconnect the hose from the bleeder, the remaining fluid in the hose will still pass through into the bottle via gravity (mess free).
-The material that the bottle & cap are made of seems adequate to last 5+ years. The lid threads on well. If the bottle tipped over I wouldn't be worried.
-The magnet is adequate. I'd like it to be 25% stronger, and I somewhat worry about how it will last over the years where it is fused to the plastic bottle. I thought a magnet would be useless & planned to use a tether- the magnet actually was of use. I stuck it to the trailing arms in the rear and it kept the bottle vertical. I had the wheels off in the front & think I stuck it to the rotor or somewhere convenient. I'd recommend sliding the magnet off of a surface when removing it (rather than yanking/levering it off like a refrigerator magnet). This is due to the way the magnet is fused to the rather delicate plastic. I don't foresee issues if you're aware of it & take precaution. If the magnet were stronger I assume it would make this issue worse, so again: the magnet is perfectly adequate to hold the bottle (I had it ~half full when I was using it)
In short I'm glad I spent the $5-10 more to get the bottle I wanted. I'm sure it'll save a few headaches over the years. If I could do it again I'd choose the magnet style over the tether style. I'm also going to keep an eye out for a hose that's ~8-12" longer of the same material.
And watch bleeder nipples, air can be introduced via their threads if they become very loose during bleeding.
Bleeding brakes is a piece of cake. Flushing fluid is just as easy, you just do it slightly longer. So you'd think there would be little room for improvement in something that's already so simple. Wrong. This thing is fantastic.
The tube itself is silicon, which means it pops right on, pops right off and is perfectly sized for bleeders. In the past I've used more readily available PVC tubing and trust me, silicon is much better handling. Unfortunately silicon is rather opaque, but I was able to clearly see air bubbles in the tubing. I couldn't really easily tell when I had flushed out all the old fluid though, because the way my resevoir is designed I couldn't remove all the old stuff from it first, I had to just keep adding new to it and so there wasn't a really obviously "dirty, new" change: it was more dark brown fading out to yellow then eventually clear. That meant that it was a bit more difficult to see in the tube. Next time I'd like to see if there's colored fluid I can use. That way as long as I keep changing colors it will be really obvious when the new fluid has chased out.
The jar can hold an entire flush, although I emptied it between wheels so I could inspect what was coming out of each one. It's translucent, and you can generally see the color of the fluid. In the photo's you can see how easy it is to tell that the old fluid coming out is dark brown (I'm a bad car owner, and I should feel bad). You can also tell that it's clearing up, although you can't quite tell if it's yellow or white. As the new fluid mixes in it can be hard to tell, particularly since the silicone tube is a bit more opaque. However, if you unscrew the lid and peek in, the tube that's inside is PVC and quite transparent so I just kept going until it seemed like I had flushed, could see some "layering" of fluids in the jar, then I'd just unscrew the lid and peek in to confirm. I suppose that is one advantage to PVC hosing - it's perfectly clear so you can see exactly what's in it, but I much, much prefer the handling of silicon tubing.
The built in check valve works pretty darn well, and definitely makes it safe for 1-person bleeding or flushing. I like that the vale is on the INPUT side (the red nipple) so you can unscrew the lid while it's attached without letting air in.
There's even a black nipple that you can use to attach a vacuum hose if you want. I found that to be extremely helpful, and check this out -when you're done using it, you just pop the end of the hose on the black nipples and no spills - you've closed the system !
The magnet seems just strong enough. I let it get about 2/3 full at one point, and the magnet held strong. As others have said it is riveted in, so take care not to rip the plastic bottle.
Every other time I've tried to bleed or flush my brakes it's been a total pain in the ass of trying to track down one of my lazy teenagers ,and then when they do finally get off their butt and come help, it's the old "ok, press down a few times, hold down, ok up". This device made flushing so easy I actually *enjoyed it*. Yes. I actually enjoyed flushing my brake fluid using this.
If you do your own brake work, and you're getting along just fine without something like this - buy it anyhow because seriously you don't realize how nice and easy it can get. You wont regret it. Using this product is the first time I've actually enjoyed flushing/bleeding my brakes.
The one way valve works perfectly, I don't know what anyone would do with the version that doesn't have the check valve so make sure you get the one way check valve version. It actually made bleeding the brakes somewhat enjoyable because I didn't need to chase down a helper, and I could feel the pedal firming up each time I moved to a new wheel.
And it's fast, faster than you can do it with a helper. I bled/flushed a full bottle of brake fluid split between all 4 calipers in probably 10 minutes. No pump it up, hold it nonsense, just keep pumping the pedal since the check valve does the rest of the work. I did two vehicles with this and I'm thoroughly impressed.
Make sure you don't overstroke the master cylinder; put one foot under the brake pedal while pumping or just pump about 3/4 of a stroke at a time. I'm not sure if it's still important, but I was taught to start with the wheel furthest from the master cylinder and work your way up, so rear passenger, RD, FP, FD.