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Ancient Tollan: Tula and the Toltec Heartland (Mesoamerican Worlds) Hardcover – November 1, 2002

by Alba Guadalupe Mastache De Escobar (Author), Robert H. Cobean (Author), Dan M. Healan (Author)

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A work of both consensus and innovation based upon extensive archaeological research, "Ancient Tollan: Tula and the Toltec Heartland" studies Mesoamerica's problem city-Tula or Tollan, seat of the Toltec state. Along with Teotihuacan and Tenochtitlan, Tula was one of the most important prehispanic urban centers in Highland Central Mexico, reaching the height of its influence during the early Postclassic period between 900-1200 A.D.

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412 pages
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English
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Univ Pr of Colorado
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November 1, 2002
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8 x 1 x 10 inches
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0870816160
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978-0870816161
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Alba Guadalupe Mastache and Robert H. Cobean have directed a long-term interdisciplinary project in the Tula region. They are Professor-Investigators at Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology and History and have published previous monographs on the archaeology of Tula including "Tepetitlan: A Rural Household in the Toltec Heartland." Dan M. Healan is professor of anthropology at Tulane University and editor of "Tula of the Toltecs: Excavations and Survey.

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Publisher : Univ Pr of Colorado (November 1, 2002)
Language : English
Hardcover : 412 pages
ISBN-10 : 0870816160
ISBN-13 : 978-0870816161
Item Weight : 3.35 ounces
Dimensions : 8 x 1 x 10 inches

Best Sellers Rank: #16,191,819 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
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Niucame

Long overdue and an excellent piece of work.

Reviewed in the United States on June 22, 2017

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This is a really excellent piece of work and long overdue.
I read the previous two comments and wonder what these guys could be thinking? All that drivel about the illustrations is virtually shallow fluff. Are they being deliberately obtuse? The illustrations could have better labels sometimes but they are great and better than most works that have come before.
Don't let those previous comments keep you from reading, and having as a reference, this great presentation of the state of the art regarding Tula.
I rate this 5 stars PLUS.

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A TERRIBLE BOOK!!!!!

Reviewed in the United States on October 18, 2016

Having read Terry Stocker’s remarks about this ridiculous book, I am compelled to add more to the critique. I visited Tula and hoped this book would help me understand Tula, but Ancient Tollan is simply a mess. It would appear that the individuals who wrote testimonials, for the books back cover, never really took the time to read the book.

Check out these things I found in the book...

Figure 9.5 is about the distribution of basalt scrapers, but what are they? There are no photos, and they are only immaturely mentioned on page 266.

Why are Figs. 8.1, 8.2A, 8.2B, 8.2C and 8.3 presented? They seem to be only filler to create a large book, while being summarily referenced on page 218.

The photo in Figure 2.7 looks like something from the 1920s. Really, we can learn something about Tula from this photo?

And Figure 5.24 is really, really bad -- making the ballcourt appear higher than Temple B. This is ridiculous. And yes, Figure 5.6 does not correspond to reality.

Maybe the University of Colorado Press could apologize for such a terrible book? Or at the very least be more thorough in their review of it before printing it.
Mark Munn

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terry

An Academic Travesty

Reviewed in the United States on August 11, 2016

The book Ancient Tollan makes a mockery of archaeology.

Imagine a book in which illustrations are repeated: 7.14 & 10.6.

Then certain repeated illustrations are varied in such a way as to make one doubt the credibility of the authors. Compare 5.5 & 6.9. Why was one illustration repeated? I have never seen this before in archaeology. To repeat them would be an error, but the illustrations also have a critical difference. What is the real orientation 18º or 20 º? The reader really has to see these illustrations to appreciate the magnitude of madness.

Illustrations 5.6 & 5.7 & 5.11 are variations of each other, and add absolutely nothing to the text.

Illustrations are not related to the text: 1.3, 5.1.

Illustration 2.11 is completely meaningless to the text.

An illustration has many “elements” (their word, not mine) but no explanation: 5.34.

Figure 4.12 is a mess because nothing is designated and thus incomprehensible.

Figure 6.10 is so simplistic it is meaningless. It has no place in any academic text (which Ancient Tollan is not).

Some illustrations are complete distortion of reality, which are presented correctly elsewhere: in 5.7 the arrow on the right assumes the land is flat, which it is not; see 5.8A. Also, in 5.24 the ballcourt is higher than the pyramid, which it is not; see 5.7.

I probably didn't itemize every illustration “mistake” in Ancient Tollan, since I have only had time to read it once, and don’t want to read it again. This book is irresponsible archaeology.

The text is as much of a mish-mash as the illustrations, with no hint of professionalism. In fact, Illustration 3.1 (of Tula’s ceramics) is completely amateurish for a book published by a university press. Furthermore, an adequate explanation of Tula’s ceramics is not presented in the text.

Someone needs to explain how such a mishap occurred this late in the history of archaeology. It is a complete travesty that Cobean would try to foist Figure 5.6 onto a thinking professionals. This is tantamount to a hoax, meaning the attempt to deceive. Robert Cobean should come forward and explain what is going on.

Terry Stocker

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