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BLACK+DECKER LPP120 20V Lithium Ion Pole Saw, 8"
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- Extension allows for a useable length of 6-1/2 or 10 feet; overhead reach of up to 14 feet
- Powered by 20-volt MAX lithium-ion battery, with longer lifespan and charge retention than NiCad batteries
- Up to 100 cuts of 1-1/2-inch pine branches per charge
- 8-inch cutting bar and chain allows for a MAXimum cutting diameter of 6 inches
- 2-year limited warranty; includes battery and Energy Star-qualified charger
- Power Source : battery powered
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LPP120 Cordless Pole Saw
20V MAX* Lithium Ion Battery
The LPP120 cordless lithium pole saw features a Black & Decker 20-volt MAX* Lithium-ion battery for long-lasting performance. You can make up to 100 cuts through 1-1/2-inch pine branches with each charge. And your cordless saw will perform for you year after year — with a longer lifespan and 5X better charge retention than NiCad batteries. It's compatible with the full line of Black & Decker's 20-volt MAX* line of power and gardening tools, and you won't be limited by an extension cord.
- LPP120 20V MAX* Cordless pole saw
- LBXR20 battery
- LCS20 battery charger
- Blade Guard
- Oil Bottle
- Operating Instructions
Power, Control, and Manueverability
Leave the gas can and the cord behind, and pick up the LPP120 pole saw for those challenging overhead trimming jobs. For pruning taller trees and shrubs or high branches over fences, garages or other structures, the Black & Decker LPP120 20-volt MAX* Lithium cordless pole saw gives you the power, control and overhead maneuverability you want to get the job done right.
The shaft extends easily to give you a useable length of 6.5 feet or 10 feet — bringing cutting jobs up to 14 feet off the ground well into reach. Easy to control at just 6.3 pounds, the LPP120 Pole Saw's powerful 20-volt MAX* Lithium Ion battery and 8-inch cutting bar let you easily power through branches up to 6 inches in diameter. And for when the job is done, the LPP120 cordless saw disassembles easily to a compact size. It comes with its own blade guard for safe handling.
|Item Dimensions||44.5 x 8.13 x 8.25 inches|
|Shipping Weight||10.45 pounds|
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|Item Dimensions||8.12 x 8.25 x 44.5 in||5.9 x 68.5 x 3.3 in||8.44 x 39.75 x 9.25 in||7 x 107 x 7.5 in||3.75 x 68.31 x 6.44 in||5 x 98 x 10 in|
The BLACK+DECKER Bare 20V MAX Lithium Ion Pole Pruning Saw is an excellent tool, designed for pruning overhead tree branches up to 14ft high. This bare-tool is compatible with 20V MAX Lithium Ion battery which provides with a longer lifespan and 5X longer charge than similar NiCd batteries. It has an 8" cutting bar and chain that allows for a maximum cutting diameter of 6". The center extension allows For a useable length of 6.5' or 10' and provides overhead reach of up to 14 feet. This unit also features an in-line power-head allows easy maneuverability and visibility between branches. Unit disassembles for easy transport. Perfect for transporting to the worksite. The lightweight design makes it easy to use.
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***Edited August 9 2017 to add charging time & other comments. It still works fine.
***Edited 7-11-16 to clarify what size battery was used and a few other things and add images that were missed in the original post.
Over a thousand reviews on this thing, and I didn't find a single video; and very few photos. I had an overgrown shrub right outside a window where it was convenient to record video so here it is. This is not an instructional video but rather a "see it in action" video. You can watch the video, study the photos, do some "cipherin'" and form your own opinion.
I started with a fully charged 1.5Ah battery (but it had been sitting in the unplugged charger for 2 or 3 weeks). I recorded cuts individually until the battery ran dead and since it is all within Amazon's 10 minute limit I'm splicing in all of them (even the cut that I didn't realize was off camera) except for the first cut that the program didn't save for some reason. Rather than include narrative in the video and risk flubbing the script and having to do it over after all the cutting was done I decided to let the saw do the talking and do any explaining in the text here.
The first cut you see in the video is an illustration of using the top of the bar to cut--as you would when making the recommended pre-cut on the bottom of a branch. Since the chain is going out from the saw on the top of the bar it pushes the saw back at the operator, but because the saw does not have a lot of power it's not a bad fight. When I started the first top cut I held the saw back from the branch for a few seconds to illustrate how it cuts in that situation. While it cuts fairly well, you see some "bouncing" back & forth & it seems to not be as efficient when it does that. Then I let the chain pull the saw up against the branch and you see (and hear) it cut more steadily. As other reviewers have said, letting gravity pull the saw down is a good idea. When you are cutting horizontally, however, gravity can't help so you have to exert some sideways pressure in order to keep it going. You can see a couple sideways cuts in the video.
A few months later I shredded up the small stuff with the 14 Amp Chipper Joe (ASIN #B007VX11O8) I had just bought (you can see my review there)..
I uploaded photos (several times) of the cross-section of each cut, including measuring sticks, so you can do your own calculations and get an idea of how much work got done on a charge instead of taking my word for it. But as for my opinion...
The advertising claims that the saw will cut up to 100 pine branches 1.5 inches in diameter on a charge. I calculate that to be 177 square inches total cross-sectional area. A rough calculation from my photos got me 124 square inches. It's hard to tell by sight, but I think this wood might be more dense than pine, and I suspect that cutting a large branch might use more energy than cutting a bunch of small ones totaling the same area, so I'm not upset with the "mere" 124 sq.in..
I bought this locally during a closeout sale last fall and the following items were included in this kit:
The saw, in 3 sections; saw on one 3ft section, handle with battery on another 3ft section, 1 "bare" pole section
One 1.5Ahr, 20V Li Ion battery pack
The battery charger
1 Allen wrench for adjusting the chain
1 stiff flip-top bottle for oiling the chain (a syringe is better)
A "scabbard" to cover the bar when in storage & transport
The scabbard has a slot to store the Allen wrench and a strap to hold the oil bottle. The slot for the wrench does not, in my opinion, hold the wrench securely enough to be trusted; the thing just does not fit well.
I thought I read somewhere that this had a "manual oiler", which I thought meant that there would be a plunger I would press to pump oil onto the chain, but there is nothing like that here. The included "oiler" is a rather stiff plastic squeeze-bottle that you put chain oil into & dribble onto the chain "manually" before you cut with it. This is disappointing, but in a sense it beats the automatic oilers that drain oil out onto the floor or bench while the saw is sitting in the garage. They tell you to oil the chain before each use and whenever replacing a fully discharged battery, or every 10 minutes of use, but I felt like adding oil a couple times before the battery died.
On 6-29-2017 I finally paid attention to the battery charging time and it was not done after 3 hours but was done after 3.75 hours. The charger says it puts out 400mA so it is to be expected that it would take nearly 4 hours to charge a fully discharged 1.5Ah battery. I see that B&D sells a 2A charger, which would charge this battery in less than 1 hour, but that is still a long time to wait if you have more cutting to do so it's better to have extra batteries for big cutting jobs. They also have 2Ah & 4Ah batteries and I saw a 3rd party replacement battery rated at 5Ah. Higher Ah ratings, of course, provide proportionally longer cutting time.
All in all I am happy with the saw so far but have not used it a lot--about a dozen black walnut branches the first use, and a bush another time, then this shrub. Since I don't have a lot to cut with it the battery life is not a big issue. It took a few more cuts to completely remove that shrub, but I did that on another day.
I find it easier to use a syringe to oil the chain, but I have to be careful not to squeeze too much oil out at once. ...But after reading Mr.Big's comment in the comments here I like his mustard bottle idea; it works very well. Thanks to Mr.Big for that idea. :~)
I am disappointed with the plastic bar and am concerned about it's potential lifetime. I'd feel better if it at least had a metal perimeter for the chain to ride in as I suspect that would make it less likely to wear, or melt, especially if I don't keep enough oil on it. It is this and the oil dribbling process that caused me to knock off a star in my rating.
The chain became loose after the first few cuts during the first use but has not been a problem since then.
The saw has enough power to do the job, but is slower than an AC powered saw or certainly any gas powered saw.
The battery is in the handle end of the pole so you must have at least 2 sections connected, making for a 6 foot pole minimum. It might have been nice to make the handle a separate piece so that you could have a 3 foot pole when you didn't need anything longer.
The pole is pretty steady at the 6ft length, but is wobbly with all 3 sections together. It has stayed together, though.
You cannot rotate this saw on the pole relative to the handle. This might make it awkward in some situations.
When it arrived, I was impressed with the ease of putting it together, and how light weight it is. The included instructions are very detailed and easy to understand. You can use it as 2 pieces or as 3. 2 pieces give you 6', and 3 give you 9'. It can reach 14' which includes 5' of your own height. The battery charges in a couple hours from dead, and can be left on the charger after charging...indefinitely per the instructions. This eliminates the possibility of damaging the battery by forgetting it on the charger...unlike the 18v model which had several complaints about frying the battery if it's not removed when charged. The battery is feather light...hard to believe it has the power it does. I did purchase a 2nd battery from another site for $56 including shipping. ...so my pruning wouldn't be cut short by a dead battery.
As for using it... It works very well, easily cutting through 1-2" branches with no bogging down, etc. Just let the saw's weight do the work. I pruned for about 45 minutes the other day and didn't notice any drop in power...oak, palm fronds, etc. I'm VERY happy with it and glad I ordered it. It's not intended for super heavy pruning like log size branches, but I'm sure it would work if given enough time. It doesn't have the same power of a gas or elec. pole saw, but makes up for this by being light weight and easily moved around ones yard...and easy to store! It's more difficult for me to use with all 3 sections being used, mainly due to the weight being shift out farther. But for someone with normal arm strength, it wouldn't be a problem. The heaviest part is the cutting head, and it's not really very heavy at all.
The saw comes with an awesome good quality storage bag that everything fits easily into with tons of extra space. I hang it by the handles on the wall. It also has a blade/chain cover that has a place for the included small bottle (for oil), and the chain adjustment tool...this way you have both with you at all times should you need them. I thought it was a great idea! Recommended oiling is when the battery is changed...or before each use. The chain is extremely easy to adjust, which needs to be done somewhat often during the first 2hrs of use, as the chain stretches a bit. It also has a 2 yr warranty...saw and battery.
Over all, this is an easy to use, light weight pole saw that can easily handle light to medium pruning...and possibly heavy with more cutting time. It's easy to put together and take apart, has a storage bag, good instructions, and conveniently stored oil and adjustment tool. I'm VERY happy with it, and hope it keeps working for many years to come!
the first way outperformed expectations and dumped the bed right after the one year mark. The second didn't seem as well manufactured as the first, and as matter of fact couldn't even do the clean-up work duty after number one - without any undue strain it screwed the pooch in under a month.
Since we already have a number of the B&D 20V tools starting with another brand won't be cost or efficiency effective, but it ,ay not be an option after the charm of the third time is put to the test.
The OEM batteries vary widely in amperage and discharge times as well - have one 1.5 amp that is like an afterthought, and a 1.5, 2.0, and 2.5 all of which are almost identical. Anecdotally, the higher capacity aftermarket batteries don't seem to last proportionally longer, but seem to provide more constant torque.