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Behind the Shock Machine: The Untold Story of the Notorious Milgram Psychology Experiments Kindle Edition
In Behind the Shock Machine, psychologist and author Gina Perry unearths for the first time the full story of this controversial experiment and its startling repercussions. Interviewing the original participants—many of whom remain haunted to this day about what they did—and delving deep into Milgram's personal archive, she pieces together a more complex picture and much more troubling picture of these experiments than was originally presented by Milgram. Uncovering the details of the experiments leads her to question the validity of that 65 percent statistic and the claims that it revealed something essential about human nature. Fleshed out with dramatic transcripts of the tests themselves, the book puts a human face on the unwitting people who faced the moral test of the shock machine and offers a gripping, unforgettable tale of one man's ambition and an experiment that defined a generation.
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"Remarkable…Reading Behind the Shock Machine becomes an act of creative disobedience."
―The Australian
"There may be no studies of the twentieth century more haunting―or more revealing of human beings at their best and worst―than Stanley Milgram's work. And here, finally, is a book that illuminates Milgram and his research subjects in riveting, compassionate detail."
―Deborah Blum, author of Love at Goon Park
"[A] provocative magnum opus… full of new info and insights, written with a literary flair so engaging and absorbing that I found it hard to put down."
―Thomas Blass, author of The Man Who Shocked the World
"An intriguing tale about science, ethics and storytelling."
―The Age
"An absorbing account of Stanley Milgram, his subjects, and the continuing quest to understand what it means to be human."
―David Baker, director, Archives of the History of American Psychology
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- PublisherThe New Press
- Publication dateSeptember 3, 2013
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- Publisher : The New Press (September 3, 2013)
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About the author

I'm a factual writer by day, fiction writer by night. I grew up loving books and reading. But it wasn't until I'd worked as a psychologist for a few years that I thought I'd try my hand at writng. After I started writing classes I began to get published in Australian newspapers, magazines and literary journals.
One story that had always fascinated me was the Stanley Milgram obedience experiments. I always wondered what happened to the people involved who had been hoodwinked into thinking they had electrocuted someone. What happened to them afterwards? How would be involved in an experiment like that change you? I decided to find out and I described my surprising and troubling findings in an award winning 2008 ABC Radio National documentary and wrote the full story in my 2012 book Behind the Shock Machine.
My next book, The Lost Boys, was an account of my search to discover more about he 1954 Robbers Cave experiments, often described as a real life version of Lord of the Flies. I tracked down some of the children who'd taken part - now aged in their 70s - as well as some of the original research team to discover how and why the experiment had come about and the impact on those involved.
In the meantime, my fiction writing was on the back burner. But when Melbourne went into COVID lockdown I pulled a half finished novel out of my desk drawer and set to work, getting it into shape. I submitted the finished manuscript for the Harper Collins Banjo prize and it was shortlisted. I was subsequently offered a publishing contract and My Father the Whale will be published in Australia in June 2023.
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Since Milgram’s results were first published in 1963, they have been seen as strong evidence of humanity’s willingness to obey authority figures to hurt others. In the common recounting, nearly two-thirds of subjects progressively administered shocks they believed to be painful and potentially dangerous to others at the urging of the experimenter.
The fact is that Milgram had conducted 20 experiments with different procedural variations or conditions -- and with different results. With some procedures, more than six of ten people disobeyed the experimenter’s orders. Milgram downplayed or hid this more complicated reality; he did not publish a report about the variations until a decade after the initial report. One variation was never published. Instead, Milgram chose one particular experiment to tell the story, where 65 percent of the subjects inflicted shocks up to the maximum.
Using this result, Milgram linked it to the Nazi Holocaust. He claimed that his results illustrate human willingness to follow orders to harm others, a broad conclusion considering the particular experiment involved just 40 men. This has since become received wisdom about human nature, while his research has become part of popular culture.
We now understand, however, that scientists can produce results to support particular agendas. Milgram ignored his experiments that resulted in majorities disobeying orders. Those results did not fit the agenda. In short, the truth is not as black and white as Milgram had led everyone to believe.
In his private papers, Milgram explained his agenda: “My is interest in (obedience) is purely personal, and concerns the fact that many of my friends and relatives were badly hurt by other men who were simply following orders.”
Milgram’s parents were Jewish immigrants, and they had relatives in Europe before and during WWII. The trial of Adolph Eichmann ended just as Milgram’s experiments began. The phrase “banality of evil” comes from Hannah Arendt’s influential book on Eichmann, where she attempted to explain how ordinary people become tools of violence and repression in authoritarian systems. Milgram made the explicit connection between his research and the Holocaust, saying the crimes against humanity could’ve happened in the United States.
In addition to Milgram’s questionable selection and omission when he publicized his results, there were also ethical issues with how the experiments were conducted. Milgram claimed that once the experiment ended, subjects were told the truth about the setup to relieve their anxiety. The fact is that three of four subjects did not receive the truth at the time. Some had to wait months or a year, while some were never told what they had not actually tortured or hurt anyone.
Even at the time, there was criticism of Milgram’s deceptive and manipulative methods that caused severe stress upon subjects. Harvard denied Milgram tenure in part due to the controversy. His experiments helped provoke a discussion in his field about the ethics of research. In 1973, the APA adopted stricter ethical standards, such as requiring informed consent from subjects, that would preclude the replication of Milgram’s experiments.
Perry interviewed several subjects of the highly publicized study. She also went to the Yale archives to see Milgram’s records. She learned that most subjects did not want to continue shocking the “learner,” but were cajoled, reassured and ordered to continue. Both the obedient and disobedient subjects resisted inflicting pain.
Perry concludes that Milgram wanted a dramatic result to call attention to his research. His experiment was better theatre than science. Therefore he adjusted his experimental procedures until he obtained his desired results.
The archive record reveals how carefully the experiment was designed and tweaked through five variations until it achieved the highest obedience rate. When subjects were told explicitly that the shocks were harmful, they stopped administering them. In the publicized experiment, by contrast, the experimenter repeatedly assured subjects the shocks were not dangerous.
In early variations, subjects who resisted four times were classified disobedient and the experiment ended. In later variations, however, four instances of resistance were not sufficient. Instead, the experimenter continued to prod and reassure the subjects, in one case 26 times, and in other cases 14, 13, and 11 times respectively. As Gates puts it, Milgram moved the goal posts to obtain the right result. It’s clear the experimenter hired by Milgram saw his job as gaining compliance, which was easier to do when bypassing the four-times rule. One variation never published involved pairs of relatives or neighbors as teacher and as learner. The majority of teachers refused to continue, which may account for why it was never publicized.
Another fact undermining Milgram’s conclusions about the human tendency to obey orders to commit harm is that many subjects said in the post-experiment questionnaire that they had suspected a hoax and played along. They had doubted that Yale would actually risk shocking a man with a heart condition.
According to Milgram’s data, only 56 percent of subjects had fully believed the “learner” was getting painful shocks, and 62 percent of that group had disobeyed. Of those who obeyed to the end, more than half had expressed “some doubts” or thought the shocks “probably or certainly” weren’t real. This data contradicts Milgram’s interpretation of his results, but it was confirmed by an unpublished analysis of the questionnaires Milgram had conducted.
Gina Perry has been criticized for her accusatory tone and sensationalist approach, albeit not for her facts. But her book is written for a general audience, not for PhDs expecting a dry article in a scientific journal. More importantly, she found a lot of contradictory evidence that Milgram had kept under wraps. Her motives matter far less than Milgram’s.
Behind the Shock Machine is successful revisionism in providing relevant details not found in Milgram’s publications. Those details undermine both the results Milgram did report and his interpretation purporting to illuminate human nature. After this book, the obedience experiments should never again be reported the same way they have been for more than half a century. Readers now understand more accurately how the experiments were actually conducted, and can discount Milgram’s conclusions accordingly. ###
Quoting one of the scientists the author interviews: There's much, much more going on in history than goes on in the lab."
This book is must reading for anyone who is a fan of Dr. Cialdini - I count myself in that group. Milgram's experiments are cited in his chapter on authority. It will be interesting to get his reaction.
As a professor of social science research, I believe this is an essential read for those who are interested in developing their critical thinking skills and learning about the dangers of passive acceptance of published research. Gina tells the story in a captivating way so that her book will appeal to a wide audience.
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On se souvient que le psychologue s'est appuyé sur des volontaires, officiellement venus pour participer à un test sur la mémoire, pour leur faire infliger des chocs électriques de plus en plus puissant à un comparse, sous prétexte de l'aider à répondre correctement à des questions. En réalité aucun choc n’avait lieu, mais tout était mis en place pour le faire croire : une machine et des cris de souffrance d’un acteur rémunéré. L’objectif de cette expérience était de tester jusqu’où iraient les cobayes humain. Le résultat le plus célèbre fait état d’un pourcentage de 65% de participants qui ont infligé le maximum soit 450 Volts.
Dans un travail vraiment éblouissant Gina Perry décortique toutes les dimensions des expériences. Car la première chose que l’on apprend avec ce livre c’est qu’il y a eu 24 séries de test sur plus de 900 personnes. Son enquête minutieuse s’est étalée sur plusieurs années, elle a relu toute les archives accessibles et retrouvé plusieurs participants des expériences.
Au-delà de la description détaillée des différentes mises en scène, avec le processus d’appel pour des participants volontaires qui étaient payés une somme significative, Gina Perry insiste surtout sur les enjeux éthiques et les éventuels traumatismes subis par les participants.
Les participants étaient leurrés et un assistant en blouse blanche leur demandait de poursuivre les chocs mêmes s’ils souhaitaient arrêter. Mais surtout pour une grande partie des sujets aucun débriefing à l’issue de l’expérience n’a eu lieu. De telle sorte que certains d’entre eux ont cru pendant des années avoir infligé des chocs atroces à un autre humain. Lorsque ce débriefing avait lieu, il ne s’agissait pas de détromper sur la réalité des chocs, mais seulement sur leur dangerosité. Le participant rencontrait un comparse guilleret, sans savoir qu’il n’avait reçu aucun choc. Même si certains ont par la suite bénéficié d’une séance avec un psychiatre, aucune consigne ne lui avait été donnée pour dévoiler la vérité au participant. C’est ainsi que certains participants de religion juive, dont la famille avait péri en camp, ont pu croire qu’ils avaient joué le rôle de tortionnaires.
Une autre information qui transparaît dans ce livre, est que si certains ont été piégés (les plus nombreux ?), d’autres ont déjoué le piège et avaient deviné qu’ils étaient les sujets de l’expérience.
Combiné à bien d’autres aspects, il apparaît bien difficile de déduire au total quoi que ce soit de ces expériences.
Ce qui est à mes yeux le plus frappant, c’est l’enseignement que la presse et l’opinion tirent généralement de ces expériences, malgré le fait que nous savons maintenant qu’elles étaient douteuses : l’idée que n’importe qui peut devenir un tortionnaire, pour peu que des conditions adéquates soient construites, et par conséquent que nous pourrions tous devenir des bourreaux.
Au-delà du fait que les expériences ne sont en rien comparables à la situation d’un SS nazi qui agissait de son propre chef, sans contrainte, et non pour faire avancer la science à Yale, il me semble que par une sorte de renversement freudien, la popularisation de la présentation commune conduit exactement à l’inverse de ce qu’elle est censée produire.
Généralement la présentation habituelle est supposée réveiller la conscience et provoquer un sursaut face à des comportements inacceptables. Certes nous pourrions tous devenir des bourreaux mais il est fondamental de pouvoir résister à cette pente terrible. Voilà le propos commun. Dans cette perspective, le fait que l’expérience ait été concluante ou non est sans importance, puisqu’elle sert la bonne cause.
Il me semble que cette vision est fausse. Au contraire la thèse de la banalité du mal, au lieu de provoquer un sursaut salvateur disculpe les bourreaux potentiels. Si après tout n’importe qui mis dans une situation adéquate peut devenir un bourreau, cela signifie que chercher à résister est plutôt inutile. Cela dédouane donc les comportements où l’obéissance est injustifiée. Voilà pourquoi en réalité il est très important de lire ce livre qui démontre, avec forces détails, que l’interprétation habituelle de l’expérience Milgram n’est pas fondée.
Au final, ce livre fournit de nombreux éléments qui montrent qu’en réalité transformer une personne quelconque en bourreau est extraordinairement difficile !
Une étoile en moins car l’auteur a choisi de se mettre en scène à la manière d’une romancière ce qui m’est apparu très agaçant.
I bought this book after hearing Gina Perry being interviewed on Radio 4's All in the Mind, which peaked my curiosity. I'm currently Psychology Research Student and, as many I know were, was first introduced to Milgram's experiment(s) during introductory classes to psychology many years ago. We received the standard textbook description of the experiment and debated the ethics of such work - in hindsight we barely scratched the surface.
Perry's well researched descriptions of Milgram's obedience research will come as a revelation to many, like myself, who have a passing interest but not in-depth knowledge of Millgram's work - arguably the most iconic work ever conducted under the umbrella of psychology. I was vaguely aware before reading this book that Milgram had repeated his research in settings outside of the University setting, but was astounded to learn he conducted over 20 variations of the experiment some which achieved astonishingly high levels of obedience and others which showed the exact opposite. Finding out that many participants were not told about the true nature of the research until months or years after was truly shocking and in complete contrast to what I previously thought I knew about this research.
It's also fascinating to hear the tales of individuals who participated in the research that Perry manages to track down, giving a totally different perspective on the whole saga.
Perry's distain for Milgram's experiments and behaviour is palpable at times, an interesting change from the idolising, if ethically critical, tones of many others who I have heard describe this work. However there were times when reading this book I felt distinctly uncomfortable: Milgram and Williams (his assistant) come under immense scrutiny and criticism from Perry (rightly so) but aren't exactly in a position to defend themselves, being dead. Although Perry acknowledges this and describes some of defences Milgram made while he was alive; I would have liked to have seen this explored a little more with a - what would Milgram have said to that? approach.
That all being said, there's no denying that this is a fascinating read that is of great interest to anyone who studies or is interested in psychology or just wants to know more about one of the most infamous experiments of all time. Highly Recommended!
That is not to say that the ethics do not deserve a great deal of examination. It is certainly worthwhile for people today to think about them in detail and it is not compulsory to adopt my view.
I therefore recommend this book even though I do not sympathise much with its approach because the facts it reports are indeed important and the issues cannot be evaded.





