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Belief or Nonbelief?: A Dialogue Introduction By Harvey Cox Paperback – April 16, 2001

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  • Paperback: 102 pages
  • Publisher: Arcade Publishing; Reprint edition (April 16, 2001)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1559705736
  • ISBN-13: 978-1559705738
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5.0 out of 5 starsa beautiful book to comfort us all
By Inna Tysoe TOP 500 REVIEWERVINE VOICE on January 29, 2004
Format: Hardcover
In these beautifully crafted, philosophical yet clear letters, Cardinal Martini and Umberto Eco discuss the questions that have been raised by many peoples in many lands and in many cultures since philosophy began. They exchange views on the secular expectation of the apocalypse and our resultant consumer culture; on women in the church; on when life begins; and on how a secular man can ground his ethics.
The thorough Jesuit education these great minds received is as evident as their deep humanity. And, while a student of philosophy and ethics will no doubt be entranced by the clear and logical arguments Eco and Martini present, a less philosophically inclined mind may find comfort.
For in the end, Martini and Eco reassure us that, no matter whether you are secular or religious; no matter what your culture, there are universal values that are common to us all. It is a message well worth hearing in this relativistic and politically correct world.
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5.0 out of 5 starsYou must read the italian or the spanish versions!
By Mnemosine on July 7, 2000
Format: Hardcover
The book is good. But the reactions of a variety of intellectuals in the SECOND HALF of the non english versions are as enjoyable. Why were they left aside in this translation? The whole purpose of the magazine that asked Martini and Eco to start a dialogue, was to open it. Why the trimming? Also, why was the title changed to a flashy style? The original could be better translated to "What do non believers believe in" or else. I can see other opinions on the book are produced by an incomplete translation or a misleading title.
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5.0 out of 5 starsCivil Conversation About Religion, Let�s Have More Of It
By Peter Fennessy on March 31, 2001
Format: Paperback
In an age where civil conversation is at a minimum (where talking heads on TV interrupt and shout each other down, where the late Cardinal Bernadine's attempt to find common ground among polarized Catholics was rebuffed by other American Cardinals), how refreshing to see this interchange between a secularist writer and the Cardinal Archbishop of Milan on the topics of hope, the beginnings of life, the ordination of women and the secular basis of ethics. They are both mutually respectful and intellectual people open to hear another point of view. The idea and the example are both great and ought to be repeated elsewhere. If anything the book is too polite and far too short. There are hundreds of issues to be discussed and a little further give and take would be more enlightening. It is not really a confrontation, and there is only one go-around on each issue. The writers are courteous to a fault. Eco knows and presents the Catholic sided as if he were on it, and in reality he is not so much skeptical as merely incredulous about a number of things, a kind of crypto-Catholic. Both are capable of giving and taking a lot more pointed argumentation while still maintaining their mutual respect and amity.
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5.0 out of 5 starsA Confrontation Indeed
By Rebecca M on December 10, 2001
Format: Hardcover
In a time when academia and scholarly religion seems terribly at odds with the living Catholic faith, two men open a dialogue which is indeed a confrontation. They confront however, not each other, but the issues of apocalyptic perspective, abortion, women in the Church, violence and much more. These two men recognize these issues not as polemics to be tossed back and forth for endless bantering, but as fundamental to outlining a definition of "humanity." Both men are scholars and people of faith, aware of the cultural and social millieu around them. Although the paperback version claims "A Dialogue" it is most definitely a confrontation that forces the reader to make some decisions or at least consider issues that are all to easily relegated to consideration in a distant sphere rather than our hearts.
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4.0 out of 5 starsClear questions, not so clear answers.
By Dianelos Georgoudis on May 25, 2002
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In this small volume two of the best-known minds of Italy exchange letters trying to find a common ground and to clarify differences between the secular and religious worldviews. On the one hand we have Umberto Eco, an academic philosopher best known for his novel "The Name of the Rose", and on the other hand Cardinal Martini, one of the most intellectually gifted princes of the Catholic church. The format is questions and answers; Eco gets the first three questions, Martini the last one. In general I found the questions illuminating; they are clearly stated and challenge the other party to clarify its position. Neither Eco nor Martini give resounding answers though, and reading between the lines one feels a certain unease in both.
Eco's first question is not really a question but rather a commentary on the secular and religious ideas about history and the end of history. Both agree that history has meaning and direction and that the fears about a disastrous end can be vanquished by hope.
The other three questions are ethical and are much more interesting. After a short and delightful investigation about what human life is, Eco asks about abortion, and specifically about when human life begins. Martini explains that there are different kinds of human life and that the kind that counts is not physical life but rather spiritual life which is part of God's life. Being a cardinal, he cannot but answer Eco's question with the Church's official position, which is that human life begins at inception. He reasons that this is so because at the inception a person's genetic identity is fixed. To me this argument sounds rather superficial. After all a seed fixes the identity of the tree that may grow out of it, but that does not mean that the seed is a living tree.Read more ›
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Published on February 12, 2009 by Kelly
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This is a wonderful compilation of letters, in which two obviously learned men with two obviously variant viewpoints discuss some fundamental issues regarding faith. Read more

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5.0 out of 5 starsa beautiful book to comfort us all

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4.0 out of 5 starsToo short!

While I appreciate the sentiments of the two participants, and I enjoyed the dialog, the problem with these kinds of interactions is that almost nobody will be swayed but the other... Read more

Published on July 13, 2001 by William
5.0 out of 5 starsinteresante intercambio de ideas

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