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Between Debt and the Devil: Money, Credit, and Fixing Global Finance Hardcover – October 20, 2015

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Why our addiction to debt caused the global financial crisis and is the root of our financial woes

Adair Turner became chairman of Britain's Financial Services Authority just as the global financial crisis struck in 2008, and he played a leading role in redesigning global financial regulation. In this eye-opening book, he sets the record straight about what really caused the crisis. It didn’t happen because banks are too big to fail―our addiction to private debt is to blame.

Between Debt and the Devil challenges the belief that we need credit growth to fuel economic growth, and that rising debt is okay as long as inflation remains low. In fact, most credit is not needed for economic growth―but it drives real estate booms and busts and leads to financial crisis and depression. Turner explains why public policy needs to manage the growth and allocation of credit creation, and why debt needs to be taxed as a form of economic pollution. Banks need far more capital, real estate lending must be restricted, and we need to tackle inequality and mitigate the relentless rise of real estate prices. Turner also debunks the big myth about fiat money―the erroneous notion that printing money will lead to harmful inflation. To escape the mess created by past policy errors, we sometimes need to monetize government debt and finance fiscal deficits with central-bank money.

Between Debt and the Devil shows why we need to reject the assumptions that private credit is essential to growth and fiat money is inevitably dangerous. Each has its advantages, and each creates risks that public policy must consciously balance.

Editorial Reviews

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"One of Financial Times (FT.com) Best Economics Books of 2015, chosen by Martin Wolf"

"One of the Strategy+Business Best Business Books 2016 in Economy"

"One of The Independent’s Best Economics Books 2015"

"One of Bloomberg Businessweek’s Best Books of 2015, chosen by Vítor Constâncio"

"Whether you agree with Turner's proposal or not, [
Between Debt and the Devil] represents an important challenge to economic orthodoxy, which, as he rightly notes, has already failed us once."---John Cassidy, The New Yorker

"Extensively researched and well-written."
---Edward Chancellor, Wall Street Journal

"[A] remarkable new book."
---Will Hutton, Observer

"Lucid and forcefully-argued."
---Peter Thal Larsen, Reuters Breakingviews

"Turner offers a convincing account of the debt-fuelled global economic cycle of the last 15 years or so. I found myself skimming over large sections and nodding in agreement."
---Erik Britton, Management Today

"An overdue challenge to a taboo against monetary finance held sacred for too long."
---Giles Wilkes, Financial Times

"Adair Turner, the former chairman of Britain's Financial Services Authority and described by
The Economist as a man for all policy crises, upends financial orthodoxy in Between Debt and the Devil. He argues that nothing regulators have done thus far has addressed the fundamental underlying cause of financial instability. . . . Turner's book is tightly argued and is packed with insights about the financial markets as well as the real economy."---Brenda Jubin, Investing.com

"If developed economies fall back into recession, people may hear quite a bit more about Lord Turner's ideas." ―
The Economist

"This is an important book because Turner thinks clearly where much analysis has been fuzzy . . . [a] stimulating book."
---Ben Chu, The Independent

"Adair Turner's
Between Debt and the Devil: Money, Credit and Fixing Global Finance--out this month--joins a select group of books that provide as clear an explanation of the financial crisis as one could hope for."---Diane Coyle, The Enlightened Economist

"Some astonishingly original ideas."
---Alex Brummer, Daily Mail

"[A] brilliant new book. . . . [The] prose crisply conveys analysis of real force."
---Tom Clark, Guardian

"[A] scintillating individual [contribution] to the debate not just on the future of finance but how we should run our economy."
---Felix Martin, New Statesman

"Adair Turner's new book
Between Debt and the Devil is definitely worth your time."---Clive Crook, Bloomberg View

"A challenging but relentlessly logical book about the flaws of the system that led us to the Great Recession: excess finance, excessive indebtedness. He adds to the literature that explains why more and more finance is not always good. The proposed cure requires going beyond the present financial regulatory reform. A bold and thought provoking book."
---Vitor Constancio, Vice president, European Central Bank, one of Bloomberg's Best Books of 2015

"This book lays down a challenge which subsequent accounts of monetary policy will have to address."
---David Willetts, Prospect

"[An] excellent book."
---Nick Butler, Financial Times

"[H]is extensive work both at financial institutions and in academia, have given Turner an insider's view of the world of finance and economics. But his conclusions--that the banking system needs to be fundamentally restructured, and that periodically, instead of a government running up debt, the central bank should just print money for the government to spend--are far from conventional."
---Matt Phillips, Quartz

"This is a good book, well worth reading. . . . It is well and clearly written and supported by good, non-technical analysis and empirical evidence."
---Charles Goodhart, Financial World

"These provocative and insightful arguments are particularly valuable at a time when austerity retains its intellectual luster despite its manifest failures."
---Andrew Moravcsik, Foreign Affairs

"Turner's book should make policymakers and commentators sit up and take notice."
---TT Ram Mohan, Economic & Political Weekly

"A strong narrative and powerful argument for reform."
---Sean O'Grady, The Independent

"This seminal book details an important reality of today's economy: generating enough demand to absorb potential supply depends on explosive increases in indebtedness–private or public, or both."
---Martin Wolf, Financial Times

"The book is brimming with new ideas, and space enables me to mention only a few. If you only read one book on the 2008 financial crisis and its aftermath, this should be it."
---David Lorimer, Paradigm Explorer

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"This is a superb book. A must-read for anyone interested in understanding the unhealthy relationship between debt and the modern economy."―Atif Mian, coauthor of House of Debt

"This is the most penetrating analysis of the inherent imperfections of our financial system to appear since the crash of 2008. It will and should provoke extensive debates about the policies needed to avoid future crises."
―George Soros

"Adair Turner is a writer who thinks unusually deeply and is prepared to follow his answers to their logical conclusion, however unsettling. Here, he offers a set of proposals for financial reform that are radical yet practical. As the global financial crisis recedes and the danger mounts that the momentum for change will be lost, we can only hope that the world heeds Turner's clarion call."
―Barry Eichengreen, University of California, Berkeley

"Turner's fresh and deep insights into our financial system come with the expertise of an insider.
Between Debt and the Devil is a landmark in monetary economics, with profound implications for policy reform."―Joseph E. Stiglitz, Nobel Laureate in Economics

"A masterwork! Insightful, scholarly, and persuasive. Adair Turner has provided a convincing analysis of what has gone wrong before, and what could go wrong again, among the intertwined complexities of money, credit, and misguided theories of finance."
―Paul Volcker, former chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve and the U.S. Economic Recovery Advisory Board

"
Between Debt and the Devil is a devastating critique of the banking system and a powerful intellectual challenge to conventional wisdom. A splendid book."―Robert Skidelsky, author of John Maynard Keynes, 1883-1946: Economist, Philosopher, Statesman

"Stunningly thorough yet highly readable,
Between Debt and the Devil is a thoughtful and deeply researched book that covers all the policy angles on debt in advanced economies, from the problems in regulating credit binges to the challenges of dealing with their aftermath."―Kenneth S. Rogoff, coauthor of This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly

"
Between Debt and the Devil is a wide-ranging and highly ambitious book. Turner presents an alternative way of thinking about financial economics."―Alan D. Morrison, coauthor of Investment Banking: Institutions, Politics, and Law

"Original and powerful. In a crowded field, this book stands out."
―Robert Pringle, author of The Money Trap: Escaping the Grip of Global Finance

"Turner's book augments the growing literature that lays bare the realities of boom and bust, bubble and crash, and the recurrent coordination failures that characterize financial history.
Between Debt and the Devil will enrich debate among both academics and policymakers."―William H. Janeway, author of Doing Capitalism in the Innovative Economy

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  • Publisher ‏ : ‎ Princeton University Press; First Edition (October 20, 2015)
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • Hardcover ‏ : ‎ 320 pages
  • ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 0691169640
  • ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-0691169644
  • Item Weight ‏ : ‎ 1.35 pounds
  • Dimensions ‏ : ‎ 7.99 x 10 x 1.85 inches
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Reviewed in the United States on October 27, 2017
A slight bit technical at times, and probably nothing really groundbreaking, but still a very good summing up of the financial crises and its aftermath.

Most importantly, Adair Turner was a heavy weight insider when the crisis hit. He is not another rebel from the outside with theories hacked in his own basement. If you have long been convinced that "the system is rigged" you will learn nothing new from this book, and you will probably dismiss it as way too conservative. If, however, you are looking for possible and likely policy change to prevent deep recession and, perhaps, the next big crash, Adair Turner is your man. He comes from the orthodox banking circles, although he has arguably placed himself somewhere near the exit lately. Chances are that someone powerful is still listening to him.

As for the suggested remedies in the book, the most radical is probably money printing. Taboo with central banks and governments alike, Turner makes a strong case for its moderate implementation, even within the paradigm of "central bank independence". Yes, and with little or no inflation too.
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Reviewed in the United States on January 11, 2016
Between the Debt and the Devil takes a fresh approach to the issues facing our modern economy. Adair Turner became chairman of the FSA in the UK right at the beginning of the financial crisis and has direct experience with the crisis and radical perspectives on the solutions. The financial crisis is still impacting financial markets and the broad economy. Inequalities of income have gotten worse and credit to GDP has increased monotonically. Tackling these issues is extremely complex and the interrelationships make causality almost impossible to determine. Between Debt and the Devil, Adair Turner discusses his view on solutions to the current stagnation he sees us in and focuses in particular on the problems of excessive debt.

Mr. Turner starts with the observation that debt has nonlinear benefits with respect to GDP generation and that in particular the initial benefits of aggregating savings so that large scale investment becomes feasible leads to saturated credit markets in which lending predominantly gets funneled into real estate. The author focuses on the changing benefits of credit intensity and makes the observation that excessive debt leads to financial fragility and therefore should be considered to have negative externalities. This view is fundamental to the prescriptions that follow. The author discusses concepts like bank capital requirements and the benefits of higher capital requirements but views the issue from the lens of credit creation rather than too big to fail. The author focuses on the problems of private credit creation and how there is not one equilibrium rate and therefore inflation targeting monetary policy can fail to focus sufficiently on financial fragility that is affecting asset rather than goods inflation. The book covers a lot of ground and looks at these issues including ideas from Minsky, Rajan and Friedman among others. The author brings the idea of nominal GDP targeting as a partial solution to the avoid the cycles of credit creation induced boom bust. The author also brings up the idea of debt forgiveness to reduce some global inequality issues alongside helicopter money and explicit monetization of government debt if there is excess capacity. None of these are trivial and have major repercussions to the modern economy.

Between the Debt and the Devil focuses on the problems of high credit intensity economies when credit intensity is concentrated in real estate which is not productivity enhancing. There is no question that asset backed lending rather than investment based lending can be dangerous and Minsky has written extensively on the subject and the endogenous problems of money creation. Whether the more radical solutions proposed are necessary and or sufficient is not easy to analyze given the complex interrelationships involved. What can be said though is the tax benefits associated with debt issuance which were used as policy at a point when the credit intensity of the economy could easily support credit fuelled GDP growth should be different when the credit intensity of the economy reverses those initial benefits. Current tax policies and lending practices should incorporate macro prudential concerns as what might make sense for the individual lender could lead to adverse consequences at the economy wide level. This lesson is well taken from the book, others one should be more careful about believing wholeheartedly. But interesting read and some fresh ideas.
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Reviewed in the United States on January 27, 2016
Bottom line Adair Turner has written an imaginative and interesting book. Big problem with it, he believe cheap credit is a function of easy monetary policy when (in my mind anyway) it's largely a function of Bernanke's "global savings glut" and doesn't convincingly push back at that argument. He also doesn't convincing (again to me anyway) argue that his preferred policy tack would actually be able to generate inflation without banks getting way out over their skis (velocity remains really low to this point despite successive rounds of QE in the US and worldwide easing by the BOJ and ECB) lots of unintended consequences. Worth noting that he's not alone in his worldview it seems to line up very neatly with how Ray Dalio and Bridgewater Associates (or at least Ray) thinks about the macro economic. Def worth a read
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Reviewed in the United States on December 23, 2015
If you read one book this year about economics or finance, read this one. I've been following Adair Turner's writings since 2013 when he joined INET, with growing interest. This is the distillation of his thinking.

Turner was in "the belly of the beast" - head financial regulator for the UK during the start of the Great Recession, and rather than proposing a few tweaks and patches that leave the incumbents doing harm while making profits, like the Dodd-Frank reforms in the USA, Turner sees much more deeply and proposes some real fundamental changes that would make the world better and fairer.

The thing is also a joy to read. It's erudite yet witty, serious yet fun.

READ THIS BOOK!
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Reviewed in the United States on February 16, 2016
This is an extraordinarily clear explanation of the mess we are in. Better still, some very worthwhile suggestions for how to get out of it. If you feel austerity is wrong in your gut, this book will enable you to explain why......... Should you meet George Osborne at a dinner party. You will have something to talk about. Though I rather fear he will not be willing to listen as closely as he should.
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Reviewed in the United States on February 8, 2016
Turner's main point, as I understand it, is that it is insufficient to focus merely on the unemployment rate, economic growth and inflation in order to monitor economic health. Private debt levels, and what use that debt is being put to, matter greatly. An interesting point of view, though political realities will likely prevent consideration of most of his proffered solutions.
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Reviewed in the United States on August 3, 2021
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Un diagnostico reflexivo y produndo de una autoridad en la materia, con ideas y criterio propio, más científico que dogmático.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Interesting perspective
Reviewed in Italy on January 24, 2017
Adair Turner is really a gifted and original writer and a critical observer of the central banking world. This book is no exception. Really recommended and enjoyable.
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Reviewed in Canada on April 23, 2016
A much needed book.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Real Turner
Reviewed in India on February 21, 2016
An outstanding book which demonstrates the art of making a lively narration of a difficult subject. Adair has clearly turned my perception of economics. After completion you feel the nation economics can be handled quite easily.Already reading another 5 books on the subject - thanks to Amazon.