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Drawing on recently declassified material, from Ben-Gurion's war diaries to the minutes of secret meetings, the author reconstructs the real events surrounding the founding of Israel, exposing many of the historical beliefs as propaganda myths that have misguided Israeli policy to this day
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  • 5.0 de 5 estrellasCompra verificada
    The original and unsurpassed work of Israeli "new historian" scholarship
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 6 de febrero de 2016
    Of the so-called "New Historians" of Israel, Simha Flapan, via the strength of this book, first and best set the tone for the field. In fact, nothing dramatically new has emerged since Flapan's work in terms of the broad picture of the period. Nor has such... Ver más
    Of the so-called "New Historians" of Israel, Simha Flapan, via the strength of this book, first and best set the tone for the field. In fact, nothing dramatically new has emerged since Flapan's work in terms of the broad picture of the period. Nor has such really been needed given the comprehensiveness here. Works of other writers of the genre, e.g., Benny Morris, Tom Segev, etc. have essentially only fleshed out details and arguments. In this work, Flapan not only developed the basic picture that the "New Historians" would relate, and which revised common myths, but he does so in a very clear and systematic manner.

    What made Flapan and the new historians "new" is that they were finally able to read freshly declassified Israeli archives from the 1948 war. These were released in the 1980s due to a liberal Israeli open records policy allowing access to war records based on the passage of time from the original events. The "new" information and perspective Flapan and later writers brought out from that actually is not, and was not, particularly new to many specialists of the area. And certainly was not new to many Arabs, particularly Palestinians, who were on the receiving end of that history. But what the new historians importantly did do was publish conclusions based on the confirming primary documents from those newly opened archives. And so the voice of a committed Israeli Zionist like Flapan, when combined with that fresh documentation from original Israeli sources, adds a powerful credibility to the conclusions. That has made him and the other new Israeli historians a decisive set of voices in the writing of the history of the 1948 period.

    In terms of this book's presentation, Flapan does quite well. He separates and documents what he sees (and in my opinion he quite correctly sees) as Israel's founding myths. And then he carefully shows the record to be quite different from the myths, while topically addressing separately each myth that he identifies. The overall impression created is that Israel's founders were much more aggressive in intent and practice at Israel's founding than he and his countrymen, and many outside observers, had formerly perceived.

    (The one downside of the book is Flapan's defensiveness regarding his own Mapam party. While this allows him to be more open to the misdeeds of the rival decision-making Labor Zionists, here and there he is muted or exculpatory about his own group's assistive role in Labor Zionist deeds and misdeeds.)

    The reader can decide all this, of course. But Flapan's "Birth of Israel" still remains the go-to book for clarity and originality for anyone concerned with the history of modern Israel's founding, and the debates and truth surrounding it.
    Of the so-called "New Historians" of Israel, Simha Flapan, via the strength of this book, first and best set the tone for the field. In fact, nothing dramatically new has emerged since Flapan's work in terms of the broad picture of the period. Nor has such really been needed given the comprehensiveness here. Works of other writers of the genre, e.g., Benny Morris, Tom Segev, etc. have essentially only fleshed out details and arguments. In this work, Flapan not only developed the basic picture that the "New Historians" would relate, and which revised common myths, but he does so in a very clear and systematic manner.

    What made Flapan and the new historians "new" is that they were finally able to read freshly declassified Israeli archives from the 1948 war. These were released in the 1980s due to a liberal Israeli open records policy allowing access to war records based on the passage of time from the original events. The "new" information and perspective Flapan and later writers brought out from that actually is not, and was not, particularly new to many specialists of the area. And certainly was not new to many Arabs, particularly Palestinians, who were on the receiving end of that history. But what the new historians importantly did do was publish conclusions based on the confirming primary documents from those newly opened archives. And so the voice of a committed Israeli Zionist like Flapan, when combined with that fresh documentation from original Israeli sources, adds a powerful credibility to the conclusions. That has made him and the other new Israeli historians a decisive set of voices in the writing of the history of the 1948 period.

    In terms of this book's presentation, Flapan does quite well. He separates and documents what he sees (and in my opinion he quite correctly sees) as Israel's founding myths. And then he carefully shows the record to be quite different from the myths, while topically addressing separately each myth that he identifies. The overall impression created is that Israel's founders were much more aggressive in intent and practice at Israel's founding than he and his countrymen, and many outside observers, had formerly perceived.

    (The one downside of the book is Flapan's defensiveness regarding his own Mapam party. While this allows him to be more open to the misdeeds of the rival decision-making Labor Zionists, here and there he is muted or exculpatory about his own group's assistive role in Labor Zionist deeds and misdeeds.)

    The reader can decide all this, of course. But Flapan's "Birth of Israel" still remains the go-to book for clarity and originality for anyone concerned with the history of modern Israel's founding, and the debates and truth surrounding it.
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  • 5.0 de 5 estrellasCompra verificada
    A myth can become more entrenched than reality..
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 25 de octubre de 2014
    It is said that a myth can become much more entrenched than the truth. This book proves this to be true. The myth that has grown up around Israel's birth-- that of the Zionists being the underdog -- is apparently much easier to believe than the truth -- that they... Ver más
    It is said that a myth can become much more entrenched than the truth. This book proves this to be true. The myth that has grown up around Israel's birth-- that of the Zionists being the underdog -- is apparently much easier to believe than the truth -- that they were vastly superior in weaponry, training, and cohesion than were the surrounding Arab countries, who were just then coming out from under colonial rule and had no leaders who could bring them together into a cohesive fighting force. Yes,, the Arabs had superior numbers, but that is all. And they did not attack until after the Zionists had destroyed so many Palestinian villages and massacred so many people. Then it became a matter of honor.
    It is said that a myth can become much more entrenched than the truth. This book proves this to be true. The myth that has grown up around Israel's birth-- that of the Zionists being the underdog -- is apparently much easier to believe than the truth -- that they were vastly superior in weaponry, training, and cohesion than were the surrounding Arab countries, who were just then coming out from under colonial rule and had no leaders who could bring them together into a cohesive fighting force. Yes,, the Arabs had superior numbers, but that is all. And they did not attack until after the Zionists had destroyed so many Palestinian villages and massacred so many people. Then it became a matter of honor.
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  • 5.0 de 5 estrellasCompra verificada
    Well researched insight into the origins of the Israeli-Palestinian conflct
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 7 de septiembre de 2014
    An extremely well researched book. It reviews the official history of Israel and confronts it with confronts them with the facts based upon historical sources - many of them declassified Zionist documents - which tell quite a different story. This book is a must for anyone... Ver más
    An extremely well researched book. It reviews the official history of Israel and confronts it with confronts them with the facts based upon historical sources - many of them declassified Zionist documents - which tell quite a different story. This book is a must for anyone who wants to understand the real cause of the present Near East conflict.
    An extremely well researched book. It reviews the official history of Israel and confronts it with confronts them with the facts based upon historical sources - many of them declassified Zionist documents - which tell quite a different story. This book is a must for anyone who wants to understand the real cause of the present Near East conflict.
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    Book was water damaged and MOLDY, was not disclosed
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 17 de octubre de 2024
    Loved the opportunity to pick this book up, but the item was unfortunately water damaged with mold present on half of the pages. Smells strongly of mold. Item was described as "well loved" and to expect "signs of heavy use with highlights/notes and/or... Ver más
    Loved the opportunity to pick this book up, but the item was unfortunately water damaged with mold present on half of the pages. Smells strongly of mold. Item was described as "well loved" and to expect "signs of heavy use with highlights/notes and/or stickers." Was not described as potentially water damaged and molded.
    Loved the opportunity to pick this book up, but the item was unfortunately water damaged with mold present on half of the pages. Smells strongly of mold. Item was described as "well loved" and to expect "signs of heavy use with highlights/notes and/or stickers." Was not described as potentially water damaged and molded.
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    Understanding Palestine and Israel
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 30 de diciembre de 2013
    I've read this book before, and was astounded at the scathing honesty with which it was written. One of the few books about Palestine and Israel that truly sheds light on the sources of conflict in that area. A must read for all who wish to know the... Ver más
    I've read this book before, and was astounded at the scathing honesty
    with which it was written. One of the few books about Palestine and
    Israel that truly sheds light on the sources of conflict in that area. A
    must read for all who wish to know the history behind today's politics.
    I've read this book before, and was astounded at the scathing honesty
    with which it was written. One of the few books about Palestine and
    Israel that truly sheds light on the sources of conflict in that area. A
    must read for all who wish to know the history behind today's politics.
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    A Valuable Primer on the Middle East
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 27 de diciembre de 2011
    Flapan's book divulges a lot of material that either wasn't known before or was known only to a few. I'm not certain, but he may have been the first author to write about the Arab diplomatic initiatives in 1948-49. However, I don't think he proved his claim... Ver más
    Flapan's book divulges a lot of material that either wasn't known before or was known only to a few. I'm not certain, but he may have been the first author to write about the Arab diplomatic initiatives in 1948-49. However, I don't think he proved his claim that Zionists didn't intend to abide by the 1947 partition. Apart from Ben-Gurion, he didn't quote any Zionists from the Mapai-Mapam camp who made expansionist statements before the Arab states invaded--the Zionists reasonably concluded that they weren't bound by partition once the Arabs went to war to destroy partition.
    Flapan's book divulges a lot of material that either wasn't known before or was known only to a few. I'm not certain, but he may have been the first author to write about the Arab diplomatic initiatives in 1948-49. However, I don't think he proved his claim that Zionists didn't intend to abide by the 1947 partition. Apart from Ben-Gurion, he didn't quote any Zionists from the Mapai-Mapam camp who made expansionist statements before the Arab states invaded--the Zionists reasonably concluded that they weren't bound by partition once the Arabs went to war to destroy partition.
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    An excellent book that debunks the "official" story of Israel's founding
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 6 de febrero de 2007
    Simha Flapan who is an Israeli of the MAPAM party debunks some of the most common spewed out myths of how the state of Israel was founded. Using the documentary record and declassified diaries of David Ben Gurion, the truth behind what really happened becomes clear. A... Ver más
    Simha Flapan who is an Israeli of the MAPAM party debunks some of the most common spewed out myths of how the state of Israel was founded. Using the documentary record and declassified diaries of David Ben Gurion, the truth behind what really happened becomes clear. A must for anyone who wants to know the roots of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
    Simha Flapan who is an Israeli of the MAPAM party debunks some of the most common spewed out myths of how the state of Israel was founded. Using the documentary record and declassified diaries of David Ben Gurion, the truth behind what really happened becomes clear. A must for anyone who wants to know the roots of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
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    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 28 de enero de 2018
    A must for those who love History. Thank you for that book!
    A must for those who love History. Thank you for that book!
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  • Magpie
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    A HISTORY BOOK THAT NEEDS READING
    Calificado en Reino Unido el 23 de febrero de 2014
    I gave this book a five star rating not just because it arrived in very good condition, though second hand, as advised and well on time but also for the content. I lived in Israel for four years in the seventies before the government turned from left to right and became...Ver más
    I gave this book a five star rating not just because it arrived in very good condition, though second hand, as advised and well on time but also for the content. I lived in Israel for four years in the seventies before the government turned from left to right and became increasingly hardline in a very obvious way, initially with Begin and then Sharon at its head and the latter not a man I would respect! I think Flapan has done a service to Israel in its relatively short history by publishing data, letters, communications of all kinds previously protected for the proscribed period. All this information gives a very clear picture of the complex mess politically that the Brits walked out on in 1947 and all the political shenanigans that went on after that to ensure that the Jews, small in number, annexed as much land as possible through warfare under Ben Gurion and thereafter to ensure the survival of the state and its increasing territory, at the expense of the indiginous Arab population, a process which continues to today. The Palestinians, post 1947, were split and undecided about which way was best to achieve either a fair partitition agreed by both parties of an autonomous state. There was so much double-dealing by everyone involved including Brits, French, Americans and Russians as well as the Jews and Arabs so that in the end, with the West in the throes of a Cold War with Russia, Ben Gurion took the country to war to gain what it wanted, which it did. However, in the light of history revealed, like any history revealed, idealistic feelings one might once have had must be reviewed in the light of pragamatism, with individual opinion based on what one feels is right and proper. I am only glad that my husband came from a left of left kibbutz under the only decent organisation at that time, HaShomerHazair. They did their best and I admire them for that so I can be proud of my father and mother-in-law who arrived in Israel in the mid-thirties, surviving the holocaust and did not want to treat other human beings, Arabs living in Palestine, as second, third or no-class citizens whose land could be taken at will. Thank you Mr. Flapan for having the courage to write what would have been extremely painful to any Jew/Israeli of your generation. I salute you, your honesty and integrity and that at least give some hope for the future ... but that seems a long way off as I see it at the moment. What a sad and worsening situation it is for both Israelis and Palestinians when significant different choices might once have been made. Sadly many of the young know and care little of their past history beyond which of it they are taught or are led to believe ... plus ca change. But they should all READ THIS BOOK. Maggie Goren.
    I gave this book a five star rating not just because it arrived in very good condition, though second hand, as advised and well on time but also for the content. I lived in Israel for four years in the seventies before the government turned from left to right and became increasingly hardline in a very obvious way, initially with Begin and then Sharon at its head and the latter not a man I would respect! I think Flapan has done a service to Israel in its relatively short history by publishing data, letters, communications of all kinds previously protected for the proscribed period. All this information gives a very clear picture of the complex mess politically that the Brits walked out on in 1947 and all the political shenanigans that went on after that to ensure that the Jews, small in number, annexed as much land as possible through warfare under Ben Gurion and thereafter to ensure the survival of the state and its increasing territory, at the expense of the indiginous Arab population, a process which continues to today. The Palestinians, post 1947, were split and undecided about which way was best to achieve either a fair partitition agreed by both parties of an autonomous state. There was so much double-dealing by everyone involved including Brits, French, Americans and Russians as well as the Jews and Arabs so that in the end, with the West in the throes of a Cold War with Russia, Ben Gurion took the country to war to gain what it wanted, which it did. However, in the light of history revealed, like any history revealed, idealistic feelings one might once have had must be reviewed in the light of pragamatism, with individual opinion based on what one feels is right and proper. I am only glad that my husband came from a left of left kibbutz under the only decent organisation at that time, HaShomerHazair. They did their best and I admire them for that so I can be proud of my father and mother-in-law who arrived in Israel in the mid-thirties, surviving the holocaust and did not want to treat other human beings, Arabs living in Palestine, as second, third or no-class citizens whose land could be taken at will. Thank you Mr. Flapan for having the courage to write what would have been extremely painful to any Jew/Israeli of your generation. I salute you, your honesty and integrity and that at least give some hope for the future ... but that seems a long way off as I see it at the moment. What a sad and worsening situation it is for both Israelis and Palestinians when significant different choices might once have been made. Sadly many of the young know and care little of their past history beyond which of it they are taught or are led to believe ... plus ca change. But they should all READ THIS BOOK. Maggie Goren.

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    MYTHS EXPOSED
    Calificado en Reino Unido el 6 de mayo de 2012
    Flapan's book is a fascinating examination of the alleged myths surrounding the birth of Israel. Using available historical data, he unravels the received wisdom to expose an altogether more nuanced version of events. Instead of a defenceless Israel only interested in...Ver más
    Flapan's book is a fascinating examination of the alleged myths surrounding the birth of Israel. Using available historical data, he unravels the received wisdom to expose an altogether more nuanced version of events. Instead of a defenceless Israel only interested in peaceful coexistence with its Arab neighbors, we learn of an Israel bent on territorial expansion determined to minimise the proportion of Arabs remaining within Israel. Far from the Arab nations being hell bent only on the destruction of the nascent country, we learn of the many opportunities Ben Gurion had to agree a truce with them immediately before the declaration of the state, but which he refused. This book is not a "hatchet job" on Israel, nor does it exonerate the Arab nations, but it does provide a far more balanced opinion supported by historical evidence than can normally be found on this most emotive of subjects.
    Flapan's book is a fascinating examination of the alleged myths surrounding the birth of Israel. Using available historical data, he unravels the received wisdom to expose an altogether more nuanced version of events. Instead of a defenceless Israel only interested in peaceful coexistence with its Arab neighbors, we learn of an Israel bent on territorial expansion determined to minimise the proportion of Arabs remaining within Israel. Far from the Arab nations being hell bent only on the destruction of the nascent country, we learn of the many opportunities Ben Gurion had to agree a truce with them immediately before the declaration of the state, but which he refused.

    This book is not a "hatchet job" on Israel, nor does it exonerate the Arab nations, but it does provide a far more balanced opinion supported by historical evidence than can normally be found on this most emotive of subjects.

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