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Black Thursday Paperback – January 1, 1981

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  • Publisher ‏ : ‎ Bantam Books; Mass Paperback Edition (January 1, 1981)
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • Paperback ‏ : ‎ 272 pages
  • ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 0553135821
  • ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-0553135824
  • Item Weight ‏ : ‎ 4.8 ounces
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Customers find the content interesting and gritty, with a few interesting stories. They also describe the writing style as very descriptive, with none of the overly technical discussions. Readers find the references informative and detailed. They find the history compelling and the characters amazing and thoughtful. They describe the descriptiveness as authentic and realistic, with nice job of painting the picture. Customers also describe it as excellent. Opinions are mixed on the emotional content, with some finding it heartbreaking and uplifting, while others say it's sad and painful.

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234 customers mention "Content"222 positive12 negative

Customers find the book a good read with interesting stories. They also say it's an exceptionally true book with historically accurate account of daring. Readers also mention that the book reads almost like a novel, and that it captures all the drama and danger of these trips. They say it’s gritty, harsh, and unflinching in its portrayal of aerial combat.

"...Having said that, I loved this book. It reads almost like a novel and it has none of the overly technical, burdensome discussions of metallurgy,..." Read more

"...This book is very engaging and well-written. It provides enough context to engage a reader who's unfamiliar with World War 2...." Read more

"...This is an excellent read on both the Schweinfurt raid and the VIIIth Air Force in general." Read more

"Overall a good read with a few interesting stories. Perhaps a few too many...." Read more

181 customers mention "Writing style"136 positive45 negative

Customers find the writing style descriptive, candid, and brutally honest. They also say the book provides perspectives from a variety of crew members and provides a good combination on the larger strategic and operational aspects.

"...It reads almost like a novel and it has none of the overly technical, burdensome discussions of metallurgy, aerdodynamics, and what-not that made..." Read more

"...This book is very engaging and well-written. It provides enough context to engage a reader who's unfamiliar with World War 2...." Read more

"...It is well written, very detailed and a good history of the B-17's and why they were so loved by the crews who flew them...." Read more

"...The author gets so descriptive I had to remind myself what the story was about; he goes on so long with it I found myself thinking, “this could be..." Read more

75 customers mention "Reference quality"70 positive5 negative

Customers find the book's reference quality informative, detailed, and thorough.

"...That book has terrific anecdotes and exhaustive research, but -- in my opinion -- it gets in its own way with all the nuts and bolts: BLACK THURSDAY..." Read more

"This book gives an excellent background and information on what it was like to be on a crew of a B17 in 1943 in England...." Read more

"...It provides enough technical detail to give the reader an appreciation of the complexities that B-17 crew members had to master...." Read more

"...I was NOT disappointed. The author did an excellent job in researching the event, starting with the mission planning a day or so in advance, and..." Read more

56 customers mention "History"53 positive3 negative

Customers find the book compelling and a good account of the Schweinfurt raid.

"...That book has terrific anecdotes and exhaustive research, but -- in my opinion -- it gets in its own way with all the nuts and bolts: BLACK THURSDAY..." Read more

"...It is well written, very detailed and a good history of the B-17's and why they were so loved by the crews who flew them...." Read more

"Good account of the Schweinfurt raid. Caidin provides extraordinary detail on the bombers and the men who flew and fought them...." Read more

"Martin Caidin was a fine author and this story of the Schweinfurt raid is compelling...." Read more

50 customers mention "Characters"50 positive0 negative

Customers find the characters in the book amazing, profound, and compassionate. They also say the book brings back wonderful memories.

"...This book is a fitting tribute to the bravery and sacrifice of young men who faced numerous dangers in the skies over Germany 75 years ago...." Read more

"...Their courage and dedication to duty is awesome...." Read more

"...It is both tragic and demonstrative of the absolute heroism of the young men in their early 20's so representative of that incredible period in..." Read more

"...Caidin is a master at depicting the incredible fortitude, bravery and skill of airmen on both sides of this conflict in the skies over Schweinfurt,..." Read more

27 customers mention "Descriptiveness"27 positive0 negative

Customers find the book authentic, realistic, and detailed. They say it accurately tells the brutal reality of what they went through to deliver their bombs. Readers also describe it as a balanced look at the bombing raid, well paced, and informative. They also say it's a good true air war book of WWII, with wonderful adaptation of war in the skies.

"...A good and honest assessment at the end on the effects of the raid...." Read more

"...It came with great sacrifce from many fronts. This book accurately tells the brutal reality of what they went through to deliver their ordance where..." Read more

"...The author did a nice job of painting the picture of what it was like for the aircrew and ground crews during the war and leading up to a mission...." Read more

"...This very candid and brutally honest book is just utterly fascinating and reads like a work of fiction. Would definitely recommend." Read more

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Customers find the writing quality of the book excellent. They also appreciate the detailed visuals.

"...The author did a very good job in describing the mission and provides perspectives from a variety of crew members...." Read more

"...youth, upon reading this past week, I find the book to be one of the best on the stategy, tactics and final outcome of that disastrous October air..." Read more

"...range of emotions they went through, leaving you drained, yet fully satisfied and glad that you took the time to read this book. I highly recommend it" Read more

"...of the air war over Europe and this book is certainly one of the best I have encountered...." Read more

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Customers have mixed opinions about the emotional content of the book. Some find it heartbreaking, realistic, and terrifying. They also say it's gruesome, harsh, and unflinching in its portrayal of aerial combat. However, others find it painful, difficult, and sad.

"...There are many touching and some tragic, and even a few funny, stories about how pilots, bombardiers, navigators, and gunners coped, or failed to..." Read more

"...It is a well researched and written book, but certainly not a "happy" story, if that is what you are looking for." Read more

"...Gritty, harsh, unflinching in it portrayal of aerial combat in the ETO. It will leave a mark on your memory...." Read more

"...This is the story about one mission, but what a mission. It is both tragic and demonstrative of the absolute heroism of the young men in their early..." Read more

Pictured is Frank Wiswall, when he was decorated with the French Legion of Honor.
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Pictured is Frank Wiswall, when he was decorated with the French Legion of Honor.
I thought I was an "expert" on the air war over Germany....but learned much more. One of my WWII veteran friends, now deceased, was a bombardier in the 8th AF, serving in B-17 E, F and G types. He also did some time in B-24 Liberators. Frank Wiswall loved the B-17 and disliked the Lib. He did 25 missions without a scratch! He retired a LTC after 38 years service, incl. reserves. Frank would watch "12 O'clock High" at least once a month for decades.
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Reviewed in the United States on May 1, 2020
This is an amazing piece of research which is also an eminently readable book. Martin Caiden takes us through the disastrous raid on Schweinfurt by the U.S. 8th Air Force in late 1943, the so-called "Black Thursday" which saw 60 American bombers shot down over Germany -- around 20% of the attacking force. No dry history this, but an almost novel-esque work which layers history, tactics, strategy and a blow-by-blow account of the raid, while simultaneously taking the deepest possible dive into what it meant to fly a B-17 in combat -- the mechanical wonders, the physical effort, the psychological strain. I really cannot emphasize how swiftly this book moves or how frightfully well it conveys the horror and confusion of a bombing raid carried out under continous attack by flak guns, rockets, aerial mines, and hundreds upon hundreds of enemy fighters. There are many touching and some tragic, and even a few funny, stories about how pilots, bombardiers, navigators, and gunners coped, or failed to cope, with the horror.

Caiden takes a brief broad overview of the history of the air war over Europe, and America's participation in same. The British had tried, and failed, to carry out daylight bombing raids over Germany and resorted to heavy night attacks. America, establishing bases in Britain, took over the burden of daylight operations, flying gigantic formations of largely unescorted heavy bombers over Germany and Occupied Europe in the face of tremendous opposition. The Schweinfurt raids were meant to strike a fatal blow to the Third Reich's crucial ball-bearing industry and thus cripple the Nazi war machine. To achieve this goal, a force of about 300+ B-17s was mustered for the strike. This is their story.

The structure of the book is interesting. Caiden was a pilot and understood fliers and flying and machinery, and he wants the reader to understand what it means to move through the air in 30 tons of aircraft -- the work involved, the physics, the technical expertise and the cold courage. So he breaks down the chapters into the overall strategy, the tactics, the logistics, the everything involved in carrying out a 300-bomber raid over a hostile nation. Then we get the action. Caiden makes extensive use of firsthand accounts and official records to record the event from the POV of those involved. He makes us feel it, the successes and failures both, and tries to cover all aspects of the battle -- for example, one entire chapter is devoted to the improbable escape to Spain, through Germany and France, of one airman shot down during the attack; another takes the experiences of a single minute of heavy combat as experienced by a series of bomber crews. At the same time, he explains the tactics and strategy of the Luftwaffe, praising their courage, ingenuity and determination at every point. While Caiden is obviously partisan, using "we" and "our" when describing Americans and the Air Forces, he does not make the error of presenting the Germans as mere foils for American greatness. The Germans won this battle, and while they paid a steep price to do so, Caiden does not let us forget that Schweinfurt was a bloody mess that failed to achieve its objective despite shockingly accurate bombing. The scenes where American ground crews wait in vain for bombers that will never return, the times when accidents kill as many Americans as a lost battle, the pathetic image of the lone survivor of an entire squadron staring through tear-blurred eyes at row after row after row of empty bunks never again to be filled by their former occupants, will stick with you forever. Like many people, I always assumed the Air Forces had it easier than the infantry, that they fought a "clean war," but this assumption does not survive contact with BLACK THURSDAY. Aside from being in the first wave of an amphibious invasion against a hardened beach, I can't imagine anything as terrifying, and nothing more terrifying, than being stuck in the ball turret of a B-17 when 200 German fighters are attacking you from every direction, flak is pounding away all around you, one engine is on fire, and you know you've still got 3, 4, 5 more hours of this hell to go through before you can get home. If you get home.

If the book has a weakness, it is that Caiden uses German records only for the purposes of recording losses and measuring bomb damage. There are no interviews with Luftwaffe fighter pilots who flew against the raid, or the Luftwaffe commanders who directed the battle. He does not tap into official histories from "the other side of the hill" except to give us some statistics. By doing so he would have greatly improved an already amazing piece of history and research, and given us a broader and deeper, and also a more balanced, account of the battle. However, this may not have been his objective to begin with. As I said, Caiden is a partisan writer: he wrote this book to impress upon us the courage of the American airman and the tremendous struggles and sacrifices he had to make to win the daylight air war over Europe, not to tell both sides of the story. Still, I consider this a pity. I have read enough German accounts of what it was like to fly against the dreaded "boxes" of B-17s, each bristling with hundreds of .50 machine guns, to want to read more.

Having said that, I loved this book. It reads almost like a novel and it has none of the overly technical, burdensome discussions of metallurgy, aerdodynamics, and what-not that made what many consider his seminal work, THE FORK-TAILED DEVIL, impossible for me to read cover to cover. That book has terrific anecdotes and exhaustive research, but -- in my opinion -- it gets in its own way with all the nuts and bolts: BLACK THURSDAY does not make that mistake. It's one of the best WW2 histories I've ever read.
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Reviewed in the United States on August 1, 2018
This book gives an excellent background and information on what it was like to be on a crew of a B17 in 1943 in England. The Germans were tough foes at that time, the effectiveness of bombing proved questionable even with the best technology of the time, and the losses high. But as many battles fought in those days, the bloody fight went on. One needs to keep perspective that something needed to be done to beat the Germans, and poor intelligence and even with difficult circumstances, the battles continued, eventually the Allies were victorious. The planes and pilots did their job admirably, although one can argue would those resources been applied better elsewhere? I did not find the grammar errors significant to impact reading. It is a well researched and written book, but certainly not a "happy" story, if that is what you are looking for.
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Reviewed in the United States on September 23, 2018
Martin Caidin's "Black Thursday" does for the US 8th Air Force what the "Saving Private Ryan" movie did for D-Day.

75 years ago, the skies over Europe in WW2 were unbelievably dangerous for 22 year-old B-17 pilots and their equally young crews. These young men knew they faced long odds in completing their 25-mission tour of duty. They learned that death could happen instantly as the result of a direct hit from an 88 mm German anit-aircraft shell. They watched in horror as other stricken bombers spun earthwards, with crewmen trapped in a flaming coffin. And yet they answered the call of duty again and again, demonstrating super-human bravery and unwavering devotion to the lives of the 9 other men with whom they rode in their Flying Fortress.

This book is very engaging and well-written. It provides enough context to engage a reader who's unfamiliar with World War 2. It provides enough technical detail to give the reader an appreciation of the complexities that B-17 crew members had to master. It also gives tribute to the human side of the air war, from the generals who ordered the planes into danger to the ground crews who rejoiced when their ship returned safely to base from a mission.

Even though this book is intended to be a micro-history of a day in October 1943, it doesn't read like one. This book is a fitting tribute to the bravery and sacrifice of young men who faced numerous dangers in the skies over Germany 75 years ago. Thank you, gentlemen, for your service.
Reviewed in the United States on March 22, 2020
I understand that the original 1960 edition of this book, included photos and illustrations- all sorely missing from this 2018 edition. The reader can go online and find photos of the the various aircraft, but I felt the need for illustrations of the various formations that the bombers arranged and flew in to better understand the descriptions the author was giving of the many air battles that took place. I felt his descriptions of the encounters with both enemy aircraft as well as his own aircraft to be confusing, and his retelling of events from the same time period, but different aircraft added to this confusion. That said, an author faces hard choices with the order in which he presents material, and his getting carried away with lavish descriptions of shells exploding, guns firing, engines running and the sounds of battle do add to the confusion that must have existed in every airman’s mind that was there.
I certainly came away with a far better insight into what the airmen had to wear, its discomfort and how it compromised their ability to do their job. Also I was enlightened as to how difficult it was to fly in these formations that we so often see in documentary footage. And although it seemed to go on forever, I appreciated the explanation behind the layout of the bases and how that helped the AAF to assemble the aircraft for raids.
The dedication of the the men to perform these missions is clearly brought out by his stories. My faults with the book are offset by the knowledge I gained. Any recognition of these men, frequently barely in their twenties, is more than worthwhile.
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P D LANGHAM
5.0 out of 5 stars A detailed and factual read about the colossal raid 115.
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on January 14, 2024
Thoroughly researched and interesting read about raid 115 to destroy the German ball bearings factories. Features maps, drawings and pictures and is a valuable contribution to the history of the eighth air force in the UK during WW2.
Jonathan Bate
5.0 out of 5 stars A great trip through history
Reviewed in Germany on September 6, 2018
This is a very down-to-earth look at the air war at its'most desperate time. After reading this book, I could feel the sweat and the fear, could really begin to imagine what those airmen had to go through, could appreciate the sacrifice of the common airman. If you are interested in getting inside a B-17 and coming as close as a reader can to the desperate reality of their world, then read this book. It is the best of its'kind that I have ever read, and I have read 100's of books on the airwar.
Mike Prescott
5.0 out of 5 stars Well worth reading.
Reviewed in Canada on April 25, 2015
Excellent Account! One of the most descriptive narration of the USAAF bomber war I have read. Perhaps because it was written so soon after the war. The reality of the terror and destruction is palpable.
Amazon Customer
4.0 out of 5 stars A well written first hand account of the bravery, terror, and trials of B-17 crews flying over Europe
Reviewed in Australia on April 18, 2016
This is a well written first hand account of the bravery, terror, and trials of B-17 crews flying over Europe, especially in the period before long-range fighter escorts began to fly with them. The illustrations show up well on my tablet, using the Kindle app, and are very interesting. Worth the price in the Kindle edition.
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John Zamick
4.0 out of 5 stars Brings this history to life
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on February 17, 2019
The events in the air war over Germany over WWII were of interest to me previously. This book used a format that graphically illustrated some of the pain, suffering and courage of the US guys fighting it. Well worth a read.