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Black Thursday Paperback – January 1, 1981
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- Print length272 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherBantam Books
- Publication dateJanuary 1, 1981
- ISBN-100553135821
- ISBN-13978-0553135824
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- Publisher : Bantam Books; Mass Paperback Edition (January 1, 1981)
- Language : English
- Paperback : 272 pages
- ISBN-10 : 0553135821
- ISBN-13 : 978-0553135824
- Item Weight : 4.8 ounces
- Best Sellers Rank: #7,259,918 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
- #50,585 in World War II History (Books)
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Customers find the content interesting and gritty, with a few interesting stories. They also describe the writing style as very descriptive, with none of the overly technical discussions. Readers find the references informative and detailed. They find the history compelling and the characters amazing and thoughtful. They describe the descriptiveness as authentic and realistic, with nice job of painting the picture. Customers also describe it as excellent. Opinions are mixed on the emotional content, with some finding it heartbreaking and uplifting, while others say it's sad and painful.
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Customers find the book a good read with interesting stories. They also say it's an exceptionally true book with historically accurate account of daring. Readers also mention that the book reads almost like a novel, and that it captures all the drama and danger of these trips. They say it’s gritty, harsh, and unflinching in its portrayal of aerial combat.
"...Having said that, I loved this book. It reads almost like a novel and it has none of the overly technical, burdensome discussions of metallurgy,..." Read more
"...This book is very engaging and well-written. It provides enough context to engage a reader who's unfamiliar with World War 2...." Read more
"...This is an excellent read on both the Schweinfurt raid and the VIIIth Air Force in general." Read more
"Overall a good read with a few interesting stories. Perhaps a few too many...." Read more
Customers find the writing style descriptive, candid, and brutally honest. They also say the book provides perspectives from a variety of crew members and provides a good combination on the larger strategic and operational aspects.
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"...This book is very engaging and well-written. It provides enough context to engage a reader who's unfamiliar with World War 2...." Read more
"...It is well written, very detailed and a good history of the B-17's and why they were so loved by the crews who flew them...." Read more
"...The author gets so descriptive I had to remind myself what the story was about; he goes on so long with it I found myself thinking, “this could be..." Read more
Customers find the book's reference quality informative, detailed, and thorough.
"...That book has terrific anecdotes and exhaustive research, but -- in my opinion -- it gets in its own way with all the nuts and bolts: BLACK THURSDAY..." Read more
"This book gives an excellent background and information on what it was like to be on a crew of a B17 in 1943 in England...." Read more
"...It provides enough technical detail to give the reader an appreciation of the complexities that B-17 crew members had to master...." Read more
"...I was NOT disappointed. The author did an excellent job in researching the event, starting with the mission planning a day or so in advance, and..." Read more
Customers find the book compelling and a good account of the Schweinfurt raid.
"...That book has terrific anecdotes and exhaustive research, but -- in my opinion -- it gets in its own way with all the nuts and bolts: BLACK THURSDAY..." Read more
"...It is well written, very detailed and a good history of the B-17's and why they were so loved by the crews who flew them...." Read more
"Good account of the Schweinfurt raid. Caidin provides extraordinary detail on the bombers and the men who flew and fought them...." Read more
"Martin Caidin was a fine author and this story of the Schweinfurt raid is compelling...." Read more
Customers find the characters in the book amazing, profound, and compassionate. They also say the book brings back wonderful memories.
"...This book is a fitting tribute to the bravery and sacrifice of young men who faced numerous dangers in the skies over Germany 75 years ago...." Read more
"...Their courage and dedication to duty is awesome...." Read more
"...It is both tragic and demonstrative of the absolute heroism of the young men in their early 20's so representative of that incredible period in..." Read more
"...Caidin is a master at depicting the incredible fortitude, bravery and skill of airmen on both sides of this conflict in the skies over Schweinfurt,..." Read more
Customers find the book authentic, realistic, and detailed. They say it accurately tells the brutal reality of what they went through to deliver their bombs. Readers also describe it as a balanced look at the bombing raid, well paced, and informative. They also say it's a good true air war book of WWII, with wonderful adaptation of war in the skies.
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Caiden takes a brief broad overview of the history of the air war over Europe, and America's participation in same. The British had tried, and failed, to carry out daylight bombing raids over Germany and resorted to heavy night attacks. America, establishing bases in Britain, took over the burden of daylight operations, flying gigantic formations of largely unescorted heavy bombers over Germany and Occupied Europe in the face of tremendous opposition. The Schweinfurt raids were meant to strike a fatal blow to the Third Reich's crucial ball-bearing industry and thus cripple the Nazi war machine. To achieve this goal, a force of about 300+ B-17s was mustered for the strike. This is their story.
The structure of the book is interesting. Caiden was a pilot and understood fliers and flying and machinery, and he wants the reader to understand what it means to move through the air in 30 tons of aircraft -- the work involved, the physics, the technical expertise and the cold courage. So he breaks down the chapters into the overall strategy, the tactics, the logistics, the everything involved in carrying out a 300-bomber raid over a hostile nation. Then we get the action. Caiden makes extensive use of firsthand accounts and official records to record the event from the POV of those involved. He makes us feel it, the successes and failures both, and tries to cover all aspects of the battle -- for example, one entire chapter is devoted to the improbable escape to Spain, through Germany and France, of one airman shot down during the attack; another takes the experiences of a single minute of heavy combat as experienced by a series of bomber crews. At the same time, he explains the tactics and strategy of the Luftwaffe, praising their courage, ingenuity and determination at every point. While Caiden is obviously partisan, using "we" and "our" when describing Americans and the Air Forces, he does not make the error of presenting the Germans as mere foils for American greatness. The Germans won this battle, and while they paid a steep price to do so, Caiden does not let us forget that Schweinfurt was a bloody mess that failed to achieve its objective despite shockingly accurate bombing. The scenes where American ground crews wait in vain for bombers that will never return, the times when accidents kill as many Americans as a lost battle, the pathetic image of the lone survivor of an entire squadron staring through tear-blurred eyes at row after row after row of empty bunks never again to be filled by their former occupants, will stick with you forever. Like many people, I always assumed the Air Forces had it easier than the infantry, that they fought a "clean war," but this assumption does not survive contact with BLACK THURSDAY. Aside from being in the first wave of an amphibious invasion against a hardened beach, I can't imagine anything as terrifying, and nothing more terrifying, than being stuck in the ball turret of a B-17 when 200 German fighters are attacking you from every direction, flak is pounding away all around you, one engine is on fire, and you know you've still got 3, 4, 5 more hours of this hell to go through before you can get home. If you get home.
If the book has a weakness, it is that Caiden uses German records only for the purposes of recording losses and measuring bomb damage. There are no interviews with Luftwaffe fighter pilots who flew against the raid, or the Luftwaffe commanders who directed the battle. He does not tap into official histories from "the other side of the hill" except to give us some statistics. By doing so he would have greatly improved an already amazing piece of history and research, and given us a broader and deeper, and also a more balanced, account of the battle. However, this may not have been his objective to begin with. As I said, Caiden is a partisan writer: he wrote this book to impress upon us the courage of the American airman and the tremendous struggles and sacrifices he had to make to win the daylight air war over Europe, not to tell both sides of the story. Still, I consider this a pity. I have read enough German accounts of what it was like to fly against the dreaded "boxes" of B-17s, each bristling with hundreds of .50 machine guns, to want to read more.
Having said that, I loved this book. It reads almost like a novel and it has none of the overly technical, burdensome discussions of metallurgy, aerdodynamics, and what-not that made what many consider his seminal work, THE FORK-TAILED DEVIL, impossible for me to read cover to cover. That book has terrific anecdotes and exhaustive research, but -- in my opinion -- it gets in its own way with all the nuts and bolts: BLACK THURSDAY does not make that mistake. It's one of the best WW2 histories I've ever read.
75 years ago, the skies over Europe in WW2 were unbelievably dangerous for 22 year-old B-17 pilots and their equally young crews. These young men knew they faced long odds in completing their 25-mission tour of duty. They learned that death could happen instantly as the result of a direct hit from an 88 mm German anit-aircraft shell. They watched in horror as other stricken bombers spun earthwards, with crewmen trapped in a flaming coffin. And yet they answered the call of duty again and again, demonstrating super-human bravery and unwavering devotion to the lives of the 9 other men with whom they rode in their Flying Fortress.
This book is very engaging and well-written. It provides enough context to engage a reader who's unfamiliar with World War 2. It provides enough technical detail to give the reader an appreciation of the complexities that B-17 crew members had to master. It also gives tribute to the human side of the air war, from the generals who ordered the planes into danger to the ground crews who rejoiced when their ship returned safely to base from a mission.
Even though this book is intended to be a micro-history of a day in October 1943, it doesn't read like one. This book is a fitting tribute to the bravery and sacrifice of young men who faced numerous dangers in the skies over Germany 75 years ago. Thank you, gentlemen, for your service.
I certainly came away with a far better insight into what the airmen had to wear, its discomfort and how it compromised their ability to do their job. Also I was enlightened as to how difficult it was to fly in these formations that we so often see in documentary footage. And although it seemed to go on forever, I appreciated the explanation behind the layout of the bases and how that helped the AAF to assemble the aircraft for raids.
The dedication of the the men to perform these missions is clearly brought out by his stories. My faults with the book are offset by the knowledge I gained. Any recognition of these men, frequently barely in their twenties, is more than worthwhile.






