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Katherine Losse

The Boy Kings: A Journey into the Heart of the Social Network Hardcover – July 11, 2012

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Publisher ‏ : ‎ Free Press (July 11, 2012)
Language ‏ : ‎ English
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Transparency and the End of Privacy

Reviewed in the United States on November 6, 2016

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"Social graces--and privacy and psychological well-being, for that matter--are just obstacles in the way of having more information." -page 43

"In the end, no matter how much we tried, we couldn't use technology to produce love. Because love, unlike technology and its uses, requires commitment to one, instead of the broadcast and consumption of many bits of distant, digital content. Love doesn't scale." -page 90

"This was always the case with social-media technology: It meant no harm, but that did not mean it would not cause it.... Facebook doesn't hurt people: People hurt people. This is true. But just as Facebook makes it possible to do things faster, more efficiently, more cheaply, it makes it possible to hurt people faster, more efficiently, with less cost to themselves." -page 93

"... perhaps your own perfection is what you would have to believe in if everyone else in the world isn't good enough. And that's why you'd want to reinvent a world in which everything had to appear perfect, all the time, as if forcing everyone else to believe in being perfect, too, or at least try.... I just wanted to be happy and loved for who I was and I wasn't sure all the algorithms or fame in the world could produce that." -page 135

"What I was seeing was that social websites were playing upon the biggest open and unsolved wound in our society: the need to be known, the need to be loved. It was unclear if they were meeting this need." -page 139

"I was getting paid to go on a trip around the world, first class. 'That's a nice gig,' my dad said after I told him I'd be out of the country for a month. 'Yes, it is,' I concurred, relieved and excited." -page 157

"Everyone wanted to see everything. This was all justified under the company's corporate buzzword, transparency, though no one seemed to know exactly what it meant. The fact that it was hard to define led Mark [Zuckerberg] to begin a discussion on the company's internal discussion page asking everyone to submit ideas for what transparency was. For some, like Mark, who posted in the thread with everyone else, the word transparency seemed to ring of enforced integrity, as if in a transparent world there could be no lies, no hidden information, and that nothing bad could happen because everyone knew everything about everyone." -page 174

The first five quotes above show some of Kate Losse's thoughts on emotional implications as they related to Facebook's corporate goals during her first two years working at the company. The limitations of social media in fulfilling people's emotional needs were often on her mind as was the emotional damage people could cause, very quickly, via social media posts and comments.

The sixth quote above simply relates that Losse traveled overseas for Facebook for a month at a time, similar to Annie in Dave Eggers' The Circle. Losse is more like Annie than Mae (The Circle's main character) in that she tows the corporate line for her social media company, travels overseas doing work to grow her company's global presence before eventually burning out (though in a different, less dramatic way than Annie).

The final quote above draws the closest parallel between this book and The Circle: the specific use of the term "transparency" in Facebook's internal discussions as described by Losse, just as Eggers makes "transparency" an actual program initiated at The Circle in which people wear body cameras and broadcast their lives 24/7.

Either Eggers actually did read Losse's book and borrowed heavily from it in his fiction, or their are uncanny similarities between what Eggers dreamed up for The Circle and the way Losse described her actual experiences at Facebook. Either way, as I wrote in my review of The Circle, the question of just how much of their personal lives people should share on social media is significant and will only grow in significance as technology continues to improve.

Facebook Live now advertises on television. At the moment, people can go Live on Facebook by filming with their smartphones or ipad or similar device, but who's to say we won't very, very soon live in a world where tiny, low cost, unnoticeable cameras can be planted by anyone, anywhere, to show us their surroundings at any given time, live? A world where anyone could be on camera at any moment without his or her knowledge, a world in which there's nobody to whom a person can complain about being on camera without his or her knowledge because the right for all to see that film footage outweighs the right for anyone to choose not to be filmed.

Here's the last sentence from that last quote above, again: "For some, like Mark [Zuckerberg], who posted in the thread with everyone else, the word transparency seemed to ring of enforced integrity, as if in a transparent world there could be no lies, no hidden information, and that nothing bad could happen because everyone knew everything about everyone."

If the above quoted sentence, in light of Facebook's approximately $350 billion market valuation (at the time of this review) and Zuckerberg's own extreme wealth and influence, does not have the potential to end privacy, to create a world where, as Margaret Atwood wrote in her review of The Circle for The New York Review of Books, "Privacy is Theft," I can't imagine what does.

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Silicon Valley Culture, through the lens of Facebook

Reviewed in the United States on January 9, 2015

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Facebook, as portrayed in Kate Losse's book The Boy Kings is a case study of Silicon Valley culture in the twenty-first century. In many dimensions, Facebook is an impressive achievement that has taken years of engineering work. As I write this, Facebook has a billion users, spread throughout the world. Ms. Losse was involved in the birth of some of Facebook's first overseas networks and was the program manager for the internationalization effort. Facebook has defined social networking and has changed the way many people interact.

Along with its impressive achievements, the Facebook described by Ms. Loose can also be seen as an exemplar of many of the things that are wrong with The Valley.

In 1956 William Whyte wrote a book titled The Organization Man . In Businessweek, David Leonard writes that The Organization Man was "A critique of society as much as business culture, the book diagnosed groupthink--a term Whyte coined--in the suburbs as well as the boardroom, and became one of the century's most influential pieces of commentary." Although Facebook claims that their ethos is "move fast and break things", what they have created in many ways mirrors the corporations of their Grandfather's generation.

Corporations in the 1950s expected conformity and so it is with Facebook and many other Silicon Valley Companies. I once spoke to a start-up that was building a "App" for the Apple iPhone which, they claimed, was going to change the world (an iPhone App, really?) The actual nature of this change is rarely stated but everyone is supposed to buy into the idea that they are doing transformative work.

From the beginning, Mark Zuckerberg has believed that Facebook has a mission that will change the world. The mission of connectedness and "transparency" (where all your information is public). The "mission" is something that employees are supposed to endorse or at least never openly question. At one point in the book Ms. Losse recounts a conversation she had with a manager who said that one of the people in his group didn't "get" the mission and he was going to have to fire her. Facebook employees are expected to be enthusiastic users of Facebook, displaying their curated public personas.

In the 1950s large corporations mostly employed white protestant men. Women were usually secretaries and the idea that a women could run the corporation would have been considered outlandish.

As Ms. Losse describes Facebook, the culture is similarly homogeneous. Almost all of the engineering staff is under 30 and male. Mark Zuckerberg famously said:

"I want to stress the importance of being young and technical," he stated. If you want to found a successful company, you should only hire young people with technical expertise.

"Young people are just smarter," he said with a straight face. "Why are most chess masters under 30?" he asked. "I don't know," he answered. "Young people just have simpler lives. We may not own a car. We may not have family." In the absence of those distractions, he says, you can focus on big ideologies. He added, "I only own a mattress." Later: "Simplicity in life allows you to focus on what's important." [quote from Venture Beat, March 2007]

When Zuckerberg says "focus on what's important", he means focus on "the mission", focus on Facebook. The Organization Man was expected to have a family and a supportive wife - Facebook in Losse's book had dispensed with this. Facebook provided a living allowance so that staff could live near Facebook, all the better to dedicate their waking hours to the Company.

The claim that Silicon Valley is a "meritocracy" where anyone can succeed based on their skills and intelligence is being exposed for its hollowness. Ms. Losse describes in detail what she sees as the gender discrimination of the "Boys" who run Facebook. Facebook doesn't value work outside of engineering and jobs occupied by women at Facebook, like Product Management and customer support are seen as lesser work. The exception to Facebook's engineering stratificaiton seems to be Sheryl Sandberg, who appears to be so brilliant that she's in her own category.

Kate Losse's Facebook is hardly alone in populating engineering with young men. As an exercise, look at the web pages of any number of start-up companies. Many of them have team pictures. Most of these team pictures look so similar that it is difficult to tell them apart. You will see few women and even fewer people over 40 years of age.

Age and gender discrimination are sometimes justified on the basis of "cultural fit". Ms. Losse describes the Facebook engineers as "Boys" who are still riding around on stake boards and going out after work drinking. Most people grow up and leave these things behind. As they mature, their engineering and system design skills mature as well. But this is lost on Ms. Losse's Facebook and most Silicon Valley companies where experience is discounted.

Kate Losse is a good writer and the book is an easy and enjoyable read. Her book is not only an account of The Boy Kings, but also of her journey with Facebook from a small company to a globe spanning social network. She is good at describing some of her inner self. She seems to have a taste for rocker boys. But at Facebook the rocker boys are software engineers. She has a long friendship with an engineer she calls Thrax. In most of her relationships she substitutes the curated intimacy of Facebook for real world intimacy. It is not until the end of the book that she finally has sex with Thrax, although they have danced round it for years.

There are a few strange omissions. Losse starts out as an hourly employee. At some point she must have become more of an official employee with stock options, but it's never clear when this happens.

At another point she mentions to Zuckerberg that Facebook should get a house with a pool. He agrees and they rent a house which the engineers and support staff hang out in. Losse apparently moves into one of the rooms, but she never comments on this arrangement. For example, was she expected to clean up after the engineers who, no doubt, left pizza boxes and beer bottles scattered around? What was it like living in Facebooks early hangout house?

I never got the feeling from reading the book that Losse burns with any particular passion. The closest she comes is her love of travel. But transience is an interlude, not a life. Hopefully Facebook, with its various pathologies, will not be the defining event of her life.

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Not at all interesting to me

Reviewed in the United States on October 11, 2017

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I hate to rate someone's creative work so low but honestly, this book put me to sleep! Literally, every time I sit down to try to read it I end up taking a nap. I was assigned it for a college class-- a career and life planning class-- and I just can't get through chapter 3. It's torture for me to even get that far. So many pointless anecdotes, details and stories that mean nothing to the point of the book, if there is even a point. Chapter 3 takes you over a third of the way through the book, and there has been no meat. I'm going to skim the rest of this, I just can't do it any more. It's just a series of complaints because she hated her job and the people around her. Which is fine. I've worked jobs I hated and around people I hated too, but why write a book? There's nothing in it and I'm seriously so frustrated for having to read it. I think I will look for summaries and Cliff notes instead.

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J. Ray

Required reading for understanding Facebook and Silicon Valley

Reviewed in the United States on April 2, 2018

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Kate’s book is a gift for anyone hoping to understand the opaque, obfuscated, all too often pollyanaish world of Silicon Valley. As relevant now, in the aftermath of Donald Trump and Russian bot wars and tech skepticism, as it was during the era of endless optimism and Hope & Change.

Today people genuinely ask how Facebook couldn’t have seen any of this coming. The answer is right here, from the earliest days: they never wanted any of the responsibility for what they were building, just the fame and fortune.

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Public

Some parts are good

Reviewed in the United Kingdom on July 30, 2018

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If all you want is to get an inside look into Facebook then you can ignore about 70% of the book. If you want to read the personal journey of one person then the whole book is not that bad.

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Christopher Parsons

Catchy, Quick, Informative Read About Facebook

Reviewed in Canada on October 21, 2012

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Losse has done a terrific job in her book. She's eloquently spoken about her time at Facebook and provided insights into the earliest periods of the company. Significantly, while the company's mission may have changed (i.e. publicity is seen a a default good, whereas Facebook was initially a more private social network than it's competitor, MySpace) the prevalent misogyny has not. Losse notes throughout how there are different tiers in the company; those with 'technical' backgrounds (i.e. the engineers) and everyone else who happens to be key to the 'social and safe' aspects of the site (i.e. subscriber assistance employees). We also see some of Facebook's internal tools - such as their unified admin password that gave total access to any subscribers' account, systems that precisely track where and when you view other subscribers' pages, and processes and policies to address hate speech - with good commentary on how employees loathed to give up the omniscience and omnipotence over other people's accounts once they possessed such power.

While Zuckerberg himself has a limit role in the book (Losse simply didn't interact much with him until her final years at Facebook), in the final chapters we get some insights into his character, aspirations, and attitude. In total, we get a picture of a 'Boy King' who is interested in flashy jargon while being reliant on others to spell out the broader thinking and philosophies behind the jargon. Tellingly, Losse was asked to (though never did) write a series of essays for Zuckerberg, focusing on topics like "revolutions and giving people power to share," "moving from countries to companies," "everyone becoming developers and how we support that," and "starting Facebook as a small project and a big theory." All these topics were meant to extend and explain his vision of the company: to change the world towards a default-public, freely sharing community and to tear down 'frictions' such as privacy and solitude.

Ultimately, this book is about Losse's own experiences at Facebook, experiences that were coloured by her gender and lack of formal technical engineering. Throughout her book, Losse deploys analytical skills that were developed in Johns Hopkins' MA English program. In large part because of these skills, she gracefully and in jargon-free language reveals a corporate culture that is largely misogynistic, that has developed strong racial overtones, and that features highly masculine and colonial internal languages and attitudes. I'd highly recommend this well written and accessible book: it provides a helpful, and rare, insight into the development and continuance of Facebook's internal culture and how it perceives its role in the world today.

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Steve

Very interesting look inside Facebook

Reviewed in Canada on November 15, 2013

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I really liked the inside look at the growth of Facebook but the writer tried to elevate this into more than that. It's the musings and comparisons of technology to real life seem like unimportant tangents. Still a very interesting read.

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