Brass Stacker MN384453SSM Scout Scope Mount for Mosin Nagant M38 and T53 Rifles, Black
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- Allows for mounting of Scout Scope or other long eye relief (LER) optics on your military surplus rifle
- See through for continued use of fixed iron sights
- Works with straight bolt handle and no stripper clip interference
- No permanent modification to firearm
- No drill and tap of receiver
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The See Thru Scout Scope Mount for Mosin Nagant M38, m 44 Mand T53 rifles chambered in 7.62x54r allows you to "Scope your Mosin" while preserving its historic integrity. Mount and MIL-STD-1913 Picatinny rail are rigid steel construction with black oxide finish and bolt securely over rear sight block. Any scope on any mount that receives an impact (dropped, hit, etc.) should not be trusted to be accurate. This product provides ability to use original open sights if mount/scope have been compromised. Mount is designed for use with rear sight blocks that have ONE pin passing through the top edge of barrel and sight leaf pivot pin. The pin hole is often located inconsistently as a result of original manufacturing process. The pin hole, relative to the pivot pin, is frequently not parallel and may be skewed. Occasionally, the block itself can be out of alignment with the bore axis. This condition can adversely affect how Mount sits. Mount will accommodate a front to back (horizontal, parallel to bore axis) pin center distance of 1.56" (39.6mm) to 1.79" (45.4mm) and allows for an up and down (vertical, perpendicular to bore axis) pin center distance of .18" (4.6mm) to .41" (10.3mm). It is designed for blocks measuring between .750" (19.05mm) and .787" (20.00mm) wide. We have made every reasonable effort to ensure that Mount will work with vast majority of M38, m 44 and T53's. Mount will NOT work for M9130. Scope/rings NOT provided. Made in America with a 100% Lifetime Warranty
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Nice to have a red dot on my old T-53 hog gun now. Old eyeballs and all!
Just a few thoughts I will share (for whatever it is worth)....
I do a quite a bit of gunsmithing for the county and folks that live around here. Have for many years. So I am blessed with the right tools. So let me throw that qualifying remark out firstly :)
1. These are old guns. Pins have been in there for 50+ years. Beat the living snot out of those pins and they did not budge. Heated the sight to glowing red and beat the snot out of the pin and it still did not budge at all.
Put the barrel in the press. This is a 14 ton press guys. Got a appropriate size carbide steel pin and again....heated the sight to glowing red and pressed the pin into the sight pin.....it moved about an 1/8 of an inch and busted the carbide steel press pin. I drilled it out.
Front pin that was supposed to be "easier" was the same. I had to drill it out.
Just the nature of the beast when working on these old girls.
So I have no rear site but really do not care. The scope mount went right on. I would advise one important thing about leveling the scope rail. The instructions say level it by measuring from the wood. I strongly disagree. I took my scope level and leveled the barrel in the vice. Then leveled the scope rail level. Now the scope mount rail and the barrel are in perfect alignment. Wood is not "precession" cut for sure. You want your scope mount to be co-centric with your bore. So level your barrel in your vice then level your scope mount. Then put your wood back on and your rifle together. Just my $0.02 worth friends.
No way is the manufacturer (Brass Stacker) responsible for my rear sight pin issues! Of course not. But be prepared to drill the pins out and just go with a scope/red dot. Sometimes these pins are not going to come out. Even with Oxy/Ace torches, hydraulic presses et al. Nope aint gonna do it. No big deal......drill em out.
Very happy with this scope mount.
It seems like it will be able to handle about anything you can throw at it.
I haven't mounted it yet as I have a type 53 with silver soldered rear sight pins. I've used as much heat ad I'm comfortable using on top of the barrel (almost cherried metal) and there's no divot for my drill not to walk all over the place. So I'm probably going to have to pay a premium to a machinist to tackle this job.
Unfortunately this isn't that uncommon. This is not a do it yourself project for many people. That is THE ONLY i would remove a star. But I'm not going to.
Because the piece is that nice
Bottom line: it would really pay to check your mosins rear sight pins are removable before buying this. If they are b impossibly stuck like mine and many others have been... id honestly say just get the UTG tri-rail mount. I've had that one before as well... and it was pretty solid.
This is nicer... and they mount pretty similarly. But if your pins are locked in... this mounts $60 price tags turns into $150.
Broken drill bits. Broken punches. A torch and fuel... and eventually a machine shop fee.
Nice fitting and snugs up so there isn't a worry for the scope to lose it's zero. Followed the directions to the "T" and it went in....however the only issue is when punching out the old pin with the new bolt, you may mess up your threads so be prepared to use a jewelers file to fix it and get the nut on.
The rear sight is actually usable up to 200m setting on my rear sight...which is cool because then I can take the scope to a 300m BZO and use the irons reliably at closer ranges.
It has not shifted one iota after putting a lot of rounds downrange and moving the rifle to an Archangel stock. I sighted in again today in the new stock at 50 yards by looking down the bore and dialing in the scope to match, and my first three shots were a 1 1/2 inch group 2 inches high and three right.