dang it I want the vinyl so much more than the CD... but not 6 times more. Jesus H Christmas $60???? That's outrageous. And I'm sure the CD will be so brickwalled that I'll regret not buying the vinyl. God they really screw with the real music market. I PAY FOR MY MUSIC WHY STEAL FROM ME???
BRICKWALLED BRICKWALLED BRICKWALLED BRICKWALLED BRICKWALLED BRICKWALLED BRICKWALLED BRICKWALLED BRICKWALLED BRICKWALLED BRICKWALLED BRICKWALLED even worse than BGWTB...because remember folks...if it's not so loud your ears bleed, it cannot be a metal masterpiece.
Thanks for the info. I won't be buying this for sure now. I also cancelled my pre-order of Like Clockwork by Queens of the Stone Age so I can see what the DR is before I buy it. I know it's going to suck. The DR on the rest of their stuff is horrendous. Great music, though.
Yes it's brickwalled. I'm listening to an advance copy and theres ok punch down low the treble region is compressed to hell and it's LOUD. Not Hi-Fi in any way. It's a shame since AIC music lends itself well to a good quality mastering with dynamics. With some music it just doesn't matter. Sounds like an extention of the last album if memory serves me. It'll sound good on a pair of Klipch speakers cranked to 11 or on a PA at a concert. I haven't analyzed it yet....but I'm sure someone will by the end of next Tuesday when the album is released in the states.
I buy very select few CD's lately. Only audiophile non-brickwalled recordings. Jazz/Fusion mostly. I don't feel I'm missing anything by what I'm doing. I've been dissapointed by several of my favorite bands last few releases so now I have a hard and fast rule and only buy verified top notch recorded/mastered releases. I don't understand why these executives believe that because an artist is Metal or Hard Rock that the final product has to be lifeless with the only things going on is some BOOM BOOM on the bottom end.....vocals....and....some sizzle....sizzle on the top. Everything in between is squeezed out and I WILL NOT stand for it one bit. None of you should either.
I have it. It is. To my ears anyway and directly comparing ----- on quality headphones through a high end DAC and amp combo ----- to recordings I know have nice dynamic range. But let the analysis prove it.
Steven Wilson's "The Raven That Refused To Sing" is a perfectly done recording and mastering job. Plus the music/writing is phenomenal. If you are into that type of music. Worth checking out. One of the rare new cd releases that is done properly. Several audio options to boot.
"Another thing is the problem is not the audio. It's likely the setup."
VIN, clearly you don't know what dynamic range is. It's not that we don't like loud music, it's the fact that the music is compressed so much and mastered so loud that it destroys the sound quality of the music. There's absolutely zero reason why the music should be destroyed like it is. AiC's first album had a DR of 11, the new one has a DR of 5. That is just unnecessary and pathetic.
Just downloaded the new AIC album. Much to early to really give it a rating since I like to hear the album in its entirely a couple times prior to giving it my thumbs up. With that said, I would like to chime in to the discussion. I am a audiophile that listens to 95% vinyl on a high end system. I have learned in the last couple years not to run out and purchase new vinyl since most vinyl is just a medium to reproduce a digital recording. So, if buying new vinyl beware the initial recording is still digital and not analog. In the end the sound may still be digital and lack the warm analog sound. Until they choose to use DSD or an advanced recording format than you may as well buy the CD. I do not buy CDs any longer. I will download a FLAC copy from a source and if I really like it than I will wait HD Trax add it to their library if they ever do. HD Trax is a hit or miss when it comes to new releases. Ok, half way through the new AIC album and I will agree, sounds much like the last, but not as good. Oh well, life long AIC fan and will still loyal. Happy Listening.
Loudness is all about mastering and LOUD mastering actually equals weak, whimpy sound. Clipping, another commonality in this trend, equals damaged sound.
Listen to the self titled AIC and tell me which has more punch...it or the last AIC release. And the self titled is fairly compressed too, but to me in the easily acceptable range.
As for John Coltrane, I own three of his cd's and they sound SPECTACULAR. His saxophone is practically hitting me in the forehead...at the very least certainly right in my living room, even with that old recording. Why? Because it has been properly mastered...preserving dynamics...giving it power and punch...although of course limited in the "punch" department due to it's nature.
Crush it down to an average range of 5db and see what happens.
We need more people like yourselves to speak and demand better mastered recordings. I believe it is getting better with the resurgence of vinyl and people are demanding better sound quality. I have no idea the cost to record in high audiophile quality sound and but as consumers we need to demand artists to produce better recordings and not feed into the the compressed MP3 format by purchasing these less than ideal formats. I will stick with analog until digital can get their act together and start using an advanced recording format. Happy Listening.
I'm not buying this. I'd love to get a good sounding CD of the new Alice In Chains songs, but apparently the band has chosen not to release such a thing. It's atrocious what is done to music these days. "Black Gives Way To Blue" had good songs, but the CD is unlistenable. I bought that one but I'm not buying this. It pisses me off cause there are so many new releases I'd love to buy and listen to, but spend my money on re-issues from audiophile labels instead or just on other things.