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The Case Against The Case For Christ: A New Testament Scholar Refutes the Reverend Lee Strobel Paperback – February 15, 2010

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Leading New Testament scholar Robert M. Price has taken umbrage at the cavalier manner in which Rev. Lee Strobel has misrepresented the field of Bible scholarship in his book The Case for Christ. Price exposes and refutes Strobel's arguments chapter-by-chapter. In doing so he has occasion to wipe out the entire field of Christian apologetics as summarized by Strobel. This book is a must-read for anyone bewildered by the various books published by Rev. Strobel.

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American Atheist Press
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February 15, 2010
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5.4 x 0.7 x 8.4 inches
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1578840058
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Robert M. Price was reared a fundamentalist and became president of a chapter of InterVarsity Christian Fellowship and for a time was an apologist of the sort he refuted in Beyond born Again, Deconstructing Jesus, The Incredible Shrinking Son of Man, and Jesus Is Dead. He holds a PhD in Systematic Theology and a second PhD in New Testament from Drew University. He has served as Professor of Religion at Mount Olive College in North Carolina and is a member of The Jesus Seminar and The Jesus Project.

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Publisher ‏ : ‎ American Atheist Press (February 15, 2010)
Language ‏ : ‎ English
Paperback ‏ : ‎ 300 pages
ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 1578840058
ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-1578840052
Item Weight ‏ : ‎ 12.6 ounces
Dimensions ‏ : ‎ 5.4 x 0.7 x 8.4 inches

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C. Ash

A collection of Non Sequiturs

Reviewed in the United States on December 31, 2019

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The author attacks Christianity’s premise with one argument after another. But his conclusions do not follow. He attempts to offer a rational alternative explanation for each argument supporting the divinity of Christ and the authenticity of the New Testament. But for the author’s arguments to be persuasive, you have to accept all of his assumptions, and none of Christianity’s.

Moreover, for as obviously well-read as the author appears to be, some of his facts are blatantly inaccurate. He states twice, for example, that Joseph Smith was hung, when in fact he was shot. This inaccuracy suggests the author is like the grandfather clock that strikes 13, thereby casting doubt upon all prior strokes.

The best evidence of the divinity of Christ is The Book of Mormon. It is the refutation of all of the author’s arguments. If Christ appeared in America shortly after his resurrection, there is no doubt who he was. As time goes by, The Book of Mormon continues to be increasingly authenticated. The author, and other readers, would do well to consider that.

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David Evans

Excellent.

Reviewed in the United States on May 11, 2018

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Wonderful point by point rebuttal of the stilted, worn out apologetic saws in Strobel’s shameless pseudo-skeptical tome. Price raises many of the same questions that arose in my mind repeatedly as I perused Strobel’s work, and he eloquently elaborates erudite counter arguments to each of the hopelessly inerrantist claims of each apologist interviewed in “The Case For Christ”, effectively laying the axe of Reason to the root of superstition and unwarranted belief that has nourished the Christian religion for two millennia. A few scattered typos prevented a five star recommendation.

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George Walter Hageman

The truth about the "Case for any stupid belief system you might have."

Reviewed in the United States on August 23, 2019

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Humor was good but took a bit to get into :). Very good very complete ... don't read "The Case for X" without it.

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KailuaFlyer

Return to Form

Reviewed in the United States on June 30, 2019

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A well written, well thought out, logically consistent and amply supported book akin in its thoroughness to his earlier works.

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Sam Nope

Stunning.

Reviewed in the United States on June 12, 2021

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This book is just unreal. Line after line of cogent arguments that utterly destroy the apologist position. The truth is, I couldn't put this book down. It was a thrilling, invigorating and interesting read that kept me engaged for the entire read --every single word. I cannot recommend this book strongly enough to anyone who wants a proper, critical examination of the new testament. Read this book and see just how feeble the apologist position really is.

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Gill

Utter Destruction.

Reviewed in the United States on August 4, 2017

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This book totally destroys christian apologetics.The author, Price, is very knowledgeable about the topics. He's also funny and witty at times which helps keep things more interesting despite the dull topic. (the bible)
I don't see a reason fot anyone hating this book other than they're biblical literalists.

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Josh Gaitan

Why should christians have all the fun?

Reviewed in the United States on August 26, 2017

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This book is needed. In my travels online where I might post a word or statement suggesting there isn't a god, there is usually a few who bray about Lee Strobel's books. When I say that "yes I have read them, have you read the case against the case for crhist?" they call me a troll and leave in a huff. This book has given me greater insight as an atheist and new tools to use. And shows you just how deep that rabbit hole goes that is christianity.

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Rus

Smart and thorough but not for the casual reader

Reviewed in the United States on June 22, 2014

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Found this book takes a lot of focus and can be difficult to read. The author does seen to be thorough but the casual reader will get lost fairly easily. Seems to target those who already are somewhat familiar on the subject.

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Fulano De Tal

He is clearly the superior intellect in this argument

Reviewed in Canada on December 28, 2017

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Always a treat to read, Mr. Price goes for the jugular on this one.
He is clearly the superior intellect in this argument.

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David J Warden

Excoriating and very entertaining

Reviewed in the United Kingdom on April 19, 2016

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I should probably have given this a 4 star rating because Price's style is not always easy to follow. But I have given it a 5 to counter the unfair 1 star rating of another reviewer. We are honoured indeed to have such a doughty fighter as Price doing battle with the vast army of Christian apologists. His style is mockery, yes, but the mockery is deserved and often very funny. Earl Doherty's 'Challenging the Verdict: A Cross-Examination of Lee Strobel's "The Case of Christ"' is a worthy companion to this volume.

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PR439

Not that great of a rebuttal after all

Reviewed in Canada on January 9, 2017

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After recently reading "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel, I was looking forward to reading this book and discover the rebuttals that the author would make. Unfortunately I found that the author wrote the book more because he was upset that he wasn't consulted than anything else. He claims to be one of America's leading authorities on the Bible and a New Testament scholar and yet the evidence he provides in his book do not really stand to closer scrutiny. Though he made some valid points, many of his various arguments lack depth. This book is a must read for anyone who is uncertain about what Strobel writes - after reading this book by Robert Price and the poor arguments he provides and you'll actually be convinced that Strobel is correct after all.

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E. Heel

Case obscured by difficult English and arguments that are difficult to follow

Reviewed in the United Kingdom on February 1, 2014

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Having read Lee Strobel's "The Case for Christ", I wanted to read this book for an opposite viewpoint. However, I was disappointed: the language is too high-brow and difficult to understand. Even though I have a good English O level from a grammar school here in England, work as a technical writer and consider my vocabulary to be wide, I had to refer to my dictionary several times just to understand the blurb on the back cover. I started to read the first chapter but had to give up after a few pages because the language was just too heavy. I think that, if Robert Price wants to address readers of "The Case for Christ", he would do well to take a leaf out of Strobel's book and use plain English. In using pompous and intellectual language, I think that Price may have put off the very readers that he wants to reach.

I also think that, in the short section that I read, Price covers a lot of points in quick succession, assuming that the reader is able to keep in mind their New Testament knowledge and what they remember of Strobel's arguments in order to follow his counter-arguments. This gave me the impression that Price was so desperate to put down his thoughts on paper that he didn't bother to spell them out more clearly.

Overall, then, I remain to be convinced of a case against.

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1001 reasons not to worry about the threats of Orthodoxy

Reviewed in the United Kingdom on May 1, 2011

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Obviously the U.K 2011 laws are good and the Bible has many points which agree.
This is the sirloin steak of arguments against the supernatural claims of orthodox Christianity. I can remember as a teenager vaguely wishing that someone would explain the reasons why it was safe not to worry about extremist, pentecostal,Christ is going to return any minute now doctrine I was surrounded by . I was paralysed from asking or looking for such reasons by my desperation to believe, no matter what, to "be saved". My desperation was driven by fear. I think Robert M Price is humanities best friend. Price incinerates the arguments of orthodox fundamentalist Christianity. Price writes in a very clear, down to earth, witty, good humoured, easily read way. Sceptical anaylsis of the Bible turns it into a fascinating look at how the writings built up inspired by only a figment of peoples imagination.

The sections of this Good book are
Part 1. Examining the wreckage .Chapters:
1.The Utter lack of eyewitness evidence. The gospels are not Biographies
2. Testing the evidence of the gospels. Do the gospels stand up to scrutiny
3. The Manuscript evidence; Do we have what the evangelists originally wrote?
4. No Corroborating evidence; no reporters covered Jesus Beat
5. The stones keep mum. How archaeology digs up a world without Jesus
6. A butt-load of evidence. The Jesus seminar and mainstream Biblical research
Part 2 Using Jesus as a ventriloquist's dummy. Chapters:
7 The identity crisis. Did Jesus memorize the Nicene creed
8 The psychology of heresy. Must Apologists be crazy when they say Jesus Believed he was God
9 The piffle evidence. Could a finite Jesus correspond in any way to an infinite God
10 The finger-paint evidence. A mess of messianic prophecy
Part 3.Rationalizing the Resurrection. Chapters:
11 Dead man walking. The swoon theory
12 The evidence of the empty argument. Was Jesus body ever in a tomb
13 The appearance of evidence. Was Jesus seen in line at Burger King (of kings)
14 The circumcision evidence. Is a supernatural resurrection the best explanation for folks no longer trimming their sons' foreskins?
Conclusion; the failure of apologetics

When I was a child my minister threatened me that if I went away from (his doctrine of ) christianity I would never be able to return and would realise my mistake too late and weep and wail. Well that is mental abuse but I suppose I shouldn't have been so gullible, naive and fearful. Courage brother do not stumble. Robert Price seems to have started off life in a similar Fundamentalist camp but was brave and read through all the arguments for and against. I weep and wail now that I didn't ask a librarian or a bookseller if they knew of books which gave all the arguments against the Bible. I wish I'd said nonsense to the Christian myth when I was a child. Snakes don't talk. The Miracles were fiction.
Having said that, what does it mean "to walk away from Christianity"? I believe the UK 2011 laws are the best that man is likely to devise. There are ideas in the Bible which are similar to the UK law. In fact the O.T. puts its laws in a more definite, assertive way than UK law. The O.T. puts the laws as commands, Do not.., You shall not/ should not/ must not... Maybe alot of people like that way of talking and maybe it is something that they didn't hear from their parents. The Bible affirms some of the laws/rules that you believe to be good. It also affirms ideas such as love your neighbour and treat them as you wish to be treated. This could be good for children if they do not have a fully reasoned argument for and against particular behaviours. However why not read the UK laws more often in public, they are the relevant ones for now. I get the feeling from Robert Price that he thinks love is the guiding star and thing to aim for. Price has a great sense of morality. If there is a loving Good God then nothing will separate us from that God, not even believing God doesn't exist.
You can get most of the arguments from cheaper books like "Why I became an atheist" by John W Loftus and "Trusting doubt" by Valerie Tarico but this book gives top quality arguments by Price and well worth the price. I think the verdict is that you can relax, there probably is no God.
However it is possible to imagine an ideal personality that you aim to be like;
loving, caring, strong, intelligent, good at making decisions, creative, patient, kind. Maybe this is what people call Christ, that probably is a good thing.
An observation typical of Robert Price is that he notices a contradiction between Matt 28v19 which has Jesus tell the 11 disciples to "make disciples of all nations " but Acts 10 has Peter wonder if the gospel is just for Jews. Acts 10 does not have Peter wonder, "what did Jesus at Matt 28v19 mean ", no, it is as if Matt 28v19 words never happened. Could it be that they hadn't been made up at that point ?

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