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Commodore: A Company on the Edge Hardcover – December 15, 2010
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- Print length548 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherVariant Press
- Publication dateDecember 15, 2010
- Dimensions6 x 1.4 x 9 inches
- ISBN-100973864966
- ISBN-13978-0973864960
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Brian Bagnall is the author of numerous computer titles, including Core LEGO Mindstorms, On the Edge, and Maximum LEGO NXT. He is also a frequent contributor to Old-Computers.com, an online museum dedicated to recording and preserving computer history. He lives in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
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- Publisher : Variant Press; 2nd edition (December 15, 2010)
- Language : English
- Hardcover : 548 pages
- ISBN-10 : 0973864966
- ISBN-13 : 978-0973864960
- Item Weight : 2.07 pounds
- Dimensions : 6 x 1.4 x 9 inches
- Best Sellers Rank: #2,797,919 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
- #752 in Computing Industry History
- #4,593 in Company Business Profiles (Books)
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The writing style is not great, IMO. It is mostly prose just meant to allow a lot of quotes from mostly the same group of people to hang together. Nevertheless, it is a thorough, and very interesting read on the beginning of the personal computer era. Moreover, it is not an Apple or PC centric view. It gives Commodore its proper due and provides the counterpoint to the Woz fairy tale in which Apple invented the personal computer. It's a miracle that Apple survived the C64.
Anyway, I liked the book as someone who grew up with a C64.
The only reason I'm not giving it 5 stars is because the author doesn't seem to have a lot of technical knowledge. He still does a good job describing computing concepts to a wide audience, but with a little more understanding of the concepts, it could have been better, especially since the target audience for this book is likely made up of people that are very tech savvy and have probably owned a 64 or other Commodore product.
Mr. Bagnall does a good job of recreating the excitement, despair, joy, frustration, genius and folly of product development and existing in a chaotic corporate environment in the "wild west" days of computing. He does a good job of presenting all points of view without bias IMHO.
This book covers the history of Commodore until the departure of Jack Tramiel, at the time when the Plus/4 was introduced. The book ends with a promise of a second volume called "The Amiga Years" or something like that. So I guess this book might be considered "The Jack Years". It didn't cover the C128/128D, or the semi-mythological C65, and doesn't mention topics like Q-Link, so I hope that the second book will talk about those. My own personal interest in Commodore ends with the 8-bits, having no interest whatsoever in the Amiga (then, or now), so I'm not totally devastated.
It's been said that history is written by the winners, and that humans prefer a neat and tidy narrative over the often unwieldy and complex stories of reality. If left to authors of less integrity and courage (a certain "cringeworthy" blogger comes to mind), the world would believe the personal computer revolution was for only Apple and Microsoft to forge. Not so.
This book is not only a treat for Commodore fans, but also an historically vital chronicle of events, personalities, and lessons learned from the dawn of the era of information we find ourselves in today. While the Commodore described in these pages may be long gone, its impact, triumphs, and failures are still felt in the computer and consumer electronics industry and the companies that remain players.
Be sure to check out "Priming the Pump" for the story of another influential and often conveniently forgotten early computer manufacturer, Tandy.
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When the first edition came out I was most curious and bought and read it. It was great! A true eye opener.
So, when this second edition came out I wondered if it was worth getting. Was there anything different? Well the answer to both questions is "Yes!". It is most definitely worth getting.
This second edition puts into context what Commodore were doing in relation to the rest of the industry. Playing with Digital Cameras in the early 80's. What competitors were doing at the time when the C64 came out.
Well written, great insites, and good stories from the people who were there at the time.
Worth getting even if you have the first edition.
Describes what happened in the day to day life of those famous names while they worked for Commodore. There's a lot of detail and it's not too technical.
The pace of life for the engineers is conveyed well. As is the attitude Jack and the employees had for each other.
The author doesn't fall into the trap of "worshipping" the famous people he writes about (good).
The story ends suddenly, feeling like there will be more in the next chapter. But there's no more chapters you have to buy a follow-up book (bad). This book would be improved by having the whole story in one volume.
So all that was going on behind closed doors while I was zapping aliens on my VIC 20...
Told a very interesting tale about Chuck Peddle, and provided more info on MOS than I had seen elsewhere from sources such as the IEEE Spectrum design case history series on C64, Atari VCS etc.
The descriptions of the layout engineers on the table with their socks on with razor blades in hand modifying the layout mask makes me want to dig up my old university VLSI course notes and build an 8 bitter by hand.
My only gripe is ... what about the rest of the Commodore story ... what about Amiga? So much to tell about that.
Guess will have to wait of that book ...
As has been stated by other reviewers, this is a very different book from the first edition. Bagnall finishes with Jack Tramiel leaving commodore, excluding the creation of the C128 and the Amiga years.
Trust me, you will really enjoy this book.
This version appears to have more input from Kit Spencer, giving greater insight. I look forward to the second volume.
There are several things, however, that prevent me from giving it five stars:
In the introduction he mentions revisionist rewriting history to exclude commodore from the early days of the computer industry. However, Bagnall makes reference to Sinclair's "junk computer" and states in a later chapter "Despite the similar look and price, the ZX Spectrum dominated over the C116 in the UK. However, the C64 continued its domination of the ZX Spectrum, making the C116 redundant."
I am not aware of the C116 ever being released in the UK. It was the C16. Also, as someone who worked in retail at the time my recollection is that the C64 and spectrum both sold roughly 50/50 in the UK, with the spectrum possibly selling more. The spectrum sold over 5 million units (excluding a huge number of clone machines)in it's 10 years life.
It is understandable that this book is written with a North American point of view, but I worry that an uninformed reader would believe Sinclair were a small footnote in the computer industry. Where did the UK stats come from?
But as I said, great book!
I really hope Brian is able to release all the interviews at some point because some of these guys are living history and it's a great thing to have their stories out there.
I've just pre-ordered the Amiga Years follow-up and I'm so looking forward to it coming out!





