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2014 Dayton Literary Peace Prize ― Nonfiction Runner Up

The complex histories and memories of Jewish and Palestinian Israelis today frame Israel’s future possibilities for peace.

1948: As Jewish refugees, survivors of the Holocaust, struggle toward the new State of Israel, Arab refugees are fleeing, many under duress. Sixty years later, the memory of trauma has shaped both peoples’ collective understanding of who they are.

After a war, the victors write history. How was the story of the exiled Palestinians erased – from textbooks, maps, even the land? How do Jewish and Palestinian Israelis now engage with the histories of the Palestinian Nakba ("Catastrophe") and the Holocaust, and how do these echo through the political and physical landscapes of their country?

Vividly narrated, with extensive original interview material,
Contested Land, Contested Memory examines how these tangled histories of suffering inform Jewish and Palestinian-Israeli lives today, and frame Israel’s possibilities for peace.

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In this moving, lyrical, and very important book, with some of the bravest and most honest of Israelis and Palestinians as guides, Roberts offers readers an intimate, often searing tour of the country’s psychological landscape. -- Professor Ian Lustick, , Bess W. Heyman Chair of Political Science, University of Pennsylvania

This compelling and compassionate book offers fresh insight into how these divergent histories reverberate in Israel today, examining how selective memories of suffering that exclude the ‘other’ impede reconciliation and a just peace. -- Mubarak Awad, founder, Palestinian Center for the Study of Nonviolence

[A] beautifully written book … Jo Roberts captures the voices of Jewish and Palestinian Israelis in all their diversity, pain, and eloquence. -- Professor Michael Rothberg, director of the Holocaust, Genocide, and Memory Studies Initiative at the University of Illinois

[T]his nuanced, empathic, and knowledgeable book is an important read for supporters of [both Israelis and Palestinians], and for people seeking a book through which to enter the charged field of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. -- Hillel Cohen, Israeli historian and journalist

Roberts does a masterful job of presenting all perspectives in their proper context. ―
Publishers Weekly

[Roberts’s] writing has academic credibility and personal appeal. If that sounds unlikely, it is. Only a writer as good as Roberts could make it work―but work it does, as it proceeds to unravel Israel’s paradoxical political identity. ―
Embassy

The author significantly contributes to the historiography of 1948, particularly in her presentation of the lesser-known experiences of displaced Palestinians who remained in what became Israel after the war. ―
Electronic Intifada

A short review such as this cannot do justice to a book which narrates in rich detail the history of the Jews in Europe leading to the founding of the State of Israel and its impact on the local population of Palestine. The discussion of identity, statehood and the role of narrative give a context for the sources of the conflicts and their continuation. ―
Jewish Renaissance

. . . Roberts provides an engaging introduction to the significance of collective memory in Israeli and Palestinian education, geography, and law. What results is a diverse anthology of the ways these divergent memories affect the current culture and conflict. ―
Mondoweiss.net

Writers have used collective memory to explore the history of groups besides Israelis and Palestinians, but
Contested Land, Contested Memory distinguishes itself on several counts. First, Roberts' fine writing makes the discourse of collective memory more accessible than many other books do. And because the catastrophes that concern her happened fairly recently, Roberts is able to use the memories of actual Palestinian and Jewish Israelis to frame her subject matter. -- National Catholic Reporter

Roberts’s formal arguments have a lapidary quality that makes them appear nearly self-evident. I thought more than once, “I knew that. She’s got that just right, and I couldn’t say it better.” ―
America: The National Catholic Review

Contested Land, Contested Memory is a work that disinters Israel’s buried history concealed in the collective psyche that ignores the past. It also shatters the assumed periodization of this conflict as originating in 1967 and highlights instead how the 1948 war and a Zionist ideology of ethnic nationalism contributed to this conflict. ―
Journal of Palestine Studies

This remarkable book is, to my knowledge, the first detailed analysis of the oppression inflicted upon the Palestinians by the Israeli government … that has been welcomed by Jewish organizations and prominent Jewish scholars. ―
THE ECUMENIST: A Journal of Theology, Culture, and Society

Biografía del autor

Trained in her native England as a lawyer and anthropologist, Jo Roberts is now a freelance writer. For five years she was managing editor of the New York Catholic Worker newspaper, to which she frequently contributed. Her reportage from Israel and from the West Bank has appeared in Embassy, Canada's foreign policy weekly. She lives in Toronto, Canada.

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Jo's first book, Contested Land, Contested Memory; Israel's Jews and Arabs and the Ghosts of Catastrophe, met with critical acclaim across the political divide, from the Times of Israel to the Journal of Palestine Studies and the Electronic Intifada. It was a finalist for the 2013 US National Jewish Book Awards, and placed second for the 2014 Dayton Literary Peace Prize for nonfiction.

Trained in her native England as a lawyer and anthropologist, Jo Roberts is a freelance writer. For five years she was managing editor of the New York Catholic Worker newspaper, to which she frequently contributed. Her reportage from Israel and from the West Bank has appeared in Embassy, Canada’s foreign policy weekly. She lives in Toronto, Canada.

“I couldn’t put it down… I was utterly absorbed. Jo is a beautiful writer, and this is a book with great heart, written by a journalist whose empathy for humanity is evident on every page. It is her patience and her curiosity that compel this book, and as a reader you simply can’t stop turning the pages.”

— Gilbert King: Pulitzer-Prize-winning author of The Devil in the Grove

"Perhaps the best book I can think of for thoughtful people to read about Israel and Palestine.”

— Professor Laura Levitt: author, American Jewish Loss after the Holocaust

For more information, see Jo's website at www.joroberts.org

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  • 5.0 de 5 estrellasCompra verificada
    ... of view this is the one book I can recommend without reservation to everyone who has an interest in ...
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 28 de enero de 2015
    Of all the things I have read and watched in the last 10 years from both the Israeli and Palestinian points of view this is the one book I can recommend without reservation to everyone who has an interest in understanding the on-going Palestinian-Israeli conflict whether... Ver más
    Of all the things I have read and watched in the last 10 years from both the Israeli and Palestinian points of view this is the one book I can recommend without reservation to everyone who has an interest in understanding the on-going Palestinian-Israeli conflict whether you take sides or not. The book is written from an anthropological point of view whereas the author has spent years gathering first hand accounts from Palestinians and Israelis living in Israel by way of personal interviews conducted by the author, some of whom lived in Mandate Palestine at the time of the Nakba (Catastrophe)/War of Independence of 1948. This is not a political book that advocates a singular and dominate point of view. Rather it presents the experience of two people groups with their on-going struggles to define themselves as nations in reference to their individual complex histories and in relation to each other in the modern context. Some of the interviewees inadvertently share some profound insights that can serve us as Americans to reconsider how we choose to see ourselves and how we choose to remember our own history. History is never just facts from some dispassionate point of view. History as a story is always incomplete if it does not include the lived experience of all those involved. In the case of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, what the two groups most deeply have in common is the experience of suffering. It is that particular realization that most affects a number of the interviewees -- the acknowledgment of the other's suffering. This is the first step towards healing and reconciliation, without which there never will be peace.
    Of all the things I have read and watched in the last 10 years from both the Israeli and Palestinian points of view this is the one book I can recommend without reservation to everyone who has an interest in understanding the on-going Palestinian-Israeli conflict whether you take sides or not. The book is written from an anthropological point of view whereas the author has spent years gathering first hand accounts from Palestinians and Israelis living in Israel by way of personal interviews conducted by the author, some of whom lived in Mandate Palestine at the time of the Nakba (Catastrophe)/War of Independence of 1948. This is not a political book that advocates a singular and dominate point of view. Rather it presents the experience of two people groups with their on-going struggles to define themselves as nations in reference to their individual complex histories and in relation to each other in the modern context. Some of the interviewees inadvertently share some profound insights that can serve us as Americans to reconsider how we choose to see ourselves and how we choose to remember our own history. History is never just facts from some dispassionate point of view. History as a story is always incomplete if it does not include the lived experience of all those involved. In the case of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, what the two groups most deeply have in common is the experience of suffering. It is that particular realization that most affects a number of the interviewees -- the acknowledgment of the other's suffering. This is the first step towards healing and reconciliation, without which there never will be peace.
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  • 4.0 de 5 estrellas
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    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 26 de noviembre de 2013
    I would like to strongly recommend this book. The headlines that come from Israel/Palestine don't capture the traumatic histories behind the conflict. Jo Roberts looks at the Israel-Palestine conflict through the compassionate lens of historic trauma. Dozens of... Ver más
    I would like to strongly recommend this book. The headlines that come from Israel/Palestine don't capture the traumatic histories behind the conflict. Jo Roberts looks at the Israel-Palestine conflict through the compassionate lens of historic trauma. Dozens of interviews with Jewish and Arab Israelis carry much of the narrative. As Roberts writes: “Opening oneself to the Other’s story, and to the possibility that it may transform one’s own story, is an essential step toward reconciliation.”

    If you’ve ever wanted a gentle introduction to this complicated conflict, this one is nuanced, compassionate, and accessible.
    I would like to strongly recommend this book. The headlines that come from Israel/Palestine don't capture the traumatic histories behind the conflict. Jo Roberts looks at the Israel-Palestine conflict through the compassionate lens of historic trauma. Dozens of interviews with Jewish and Arab Israelis carry much of the narrative. As Roberts writes: “Opening oneself to the Other’s story, and to the possibility that it may transform one’s own story, is an essential step toward reconciliation.”

    If you’ve ever wanted a gentle introduction to this complicated conflict, this one is nuanced, compassionate, and accessible.
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  • 5.0 de 5 estrellasCompra verificada
    Human, Accessible, Important
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 26 de enero de 2020
    Contested Land is about more than the Nakba; it's about the sociology of Israelis, Palestinians and of the long, horrible reach of the Holocaust and of other genocides and human tragedies. I read this book just after I returned from Bosnia, where I traversed a fractured... Ver más
    Contested Land is about more than the Nakba; it's about the sociology of Israelis, Palestinians and of the long, horrible reach of the Holocaust and of other genocides and human tragedies. I read this book just after I returned from Bosnia, where I traversed a fractured landscape riven with competing narratives and mass graves. Two completely different scenarios and yet the commonality of just what collective and individual memories are passed on and why was striking to me. Truth. Reconciliation. Justice. Three very difficult goals to achieve when the core story - the truth - cannot be agreed upon. Roberts paints with a delicate brush; no broad strokes for her; she emphasizes collective tragedy and its impact. As an Israeli-American, I was deeply appreciative of the compassionate manner in which Roberts seeks to uncover multiple truths and experiences through interviews and research. I would put this book on a shortlist of books to read about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the others being From Beirut to Jerusalem (Thomas Friedman) and A Tale of Love and Darkness (Amos Oz). There are many others to read (The Lemon Tree, Tolan) - the list is long - but I found the Roberts book to be a particularly human, accessible read on a very loaded topic.
    Contested Land is about more than the Nakba; it's about the sociology of Israelis, Palestinians and of the long, horrible reach of the Holocaust and of other genocides and human tragedies. I read this book just after I returned from Bosnia, where I traversed a fractured landscape riven with competing narratives and mass graves. Two completely different scenarios and yet the commonality of just what collective and individual memories are passed on and why was striking to me. Truth. Reconciliation. Justice. Three very difficult goals to achieve when the core story - the truth - cannot be agreed upon. Roberts paints with a delicate brush; no broad strokes for her; she emphasizes collective tragedy and its impact. As an Israeli-American, I was deeply appreciative of the compassionate manner in which Roberts seeks to uncover multiple truths and experiences through interviews and research. I would put this book on a shortlist of books to read about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the others being From Beirut to Jerusalem (Thomas Friedman) and A Tale of Love and Darkness (Amos Oz). There are many others to read (The Lemon Tree, Tolan) - the list is long - but I found the Roberts book to be a particularly human, accessible read on a very loaded topic.
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  • 4.0 de 5 estrellas
    A difficult read on a difficult subject. No easy answers
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 10 de diciembre de 2013
    Roberts uses a compassionate ear to tell the stories of two peoples locked in historical, geographic and cultural trauma. She deconstructs, historically and culturally, the intransigent positions Israelis and Palestinians are stuck in today. It's not a pretty picture.... Ver más
    Roberts uses a compassionate ear to tell the stories of two peoples locked in historical, geographic and cultural trauma. She deconstructs, historically and culturally, the intransigent positions Israelis and Palestinians are stuck in today. It's not a pretty picture. She doesn't look away from difficult truths. That's why it's a "difficult" read.

    The book seems crucial in letting us hear each side's pain and history, contested as they are by the other side. I liked this book because you start to really know, why?" Why does the issue not have resolution. What is the depth of the problem. Where is each side coming from.

    I highly recommend this book.
    Roberts uses a compassionate ear to tell the stories of two peoples locked in historical, geographic and cultural trauma. She deconstructs, historically and culturally, the intransigent positions Israelis and Palestinians are stuck in today. It's not a pretty picture. She doesn't look away from difficult truths. That's why it's a "difficult" read.

    The book seems crucial in letting us hear each side's pain and history, contested as they are by the other side. I liked this book because you start to really know, why?" Why does the issue not have resolution. What is the depth of the problem. Where is each side coming from.

    I highly recommend this book.
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    One of the best I read
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 4 de octubre de 2013
    I am currently reading the book - it is fascinating and describes in detail and deep understanding the suffering of both people and the difficulties for both to understand the other. I have been dealing with this issue for half a century, but this book gave me an insight... Ver más
    I am currently reading the book - it is fascinating and describes in detail and deep understanding the suffering of both people and the difficulties for both to understand the other. I have been dealing with this issue for half a century, but this book gave me an insight which I did not have before. And it even gave me a glimmer of hope for an eventual reconciliation, even if some time in the future.

    Can highly recommend this absolutely fantastic book.
    I am currently reading the book - it is fascinating and describes in detail and deep understanding the suffering of both people and the difficulties for both to understand the other. I have been dealing with this issue for half a century, but this book gave me an insight which I did not have before. And it even gave me a glimmer of hope for an eventual reconciliation, even if some time in the future.

    Can highly recommend this absolutely fantastic book.
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    memory
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 9 de noviembre de 2013
    Memories are what we make of our experiences. This illuminating book goes a long way in guiding me through the separate and shared traumas of this painful place and experience. All too frequently I can find myself getting charged and muddled through all the intensity of... Ver más
    Memories are what we make of our experiences. This illuminating book goes a long way in guiding me through the separate and shared traumas of this painful place and experience. All too frequently I can find myself getting charged and muddled through all the intensity of this difficult topic. It's wonderful to have a better lens. May we all come to a clearer understanding.
    Memories are what we make of our experiences. This illuminating book goes a long way in guiding me through the separate and shared traumas of this painful place and experience. All too frequently I can find myself getting charged and muddled through all the intensity of this difficult topic. It's wonderful to have a better lens. May we all come to a clearer understanding.
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    A Story that needs to be told
    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 7 de octubre de 2013
    Its a story that needs to be told and she does it so well. The only book I had read about it was Blood Brothers.
    Its a story that needs to be told and she does it so well. The only book I had read about it was Blood Brothers.
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    Calificado en Estados Unidos el 7 de octubre de 2014
    Thoughtful analysis and thought provoking commentary. A relatively well balanced discussion of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
    Thoughtful analysis and thought provoking commentary. A relatively well balanced discussion of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
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    Picking up the legacy of Edward Said
    Calificado en Reino Unido el 3 de abril de 2014
    In "The Question of Palestine", Edward Said wrote that the Palestinians "have had the extraordinarily bad luck to have a good case in resisting colonial invasion of their homeland combined with, in terms of the international and moral scene, the most morally...Ver más
    In "The Question of Palestine", Edward Said wrote that the Palestinians "have had the extraordinarily bad luck to have a good case in resisting colonial invasion of their homeland combined with, in terms of the international and moral scene, the most morally complex of all opponents, Jews, with a long history of victimization and terror behind them......I do not doubt that every thinking Palestinian, or those like myself whose trials have been cushioned by good fortune and privilege, knows somehow that all the real parallels between Israel and South Africa get badly shaken up in his consciousness when he reflects seriously on the difference between white settlers in Africa and Jews fleeing European anti-Semitism." Said's ability to combine recognition of the terrible injustice committed against the Palestinians with understanding of the "long history of victimization and terror" in the collective memory of Israeli Jews tends to be forgotten nowadays in the Palestinian solidarity movement, where there is a growing and disturbing tendency to view Israeli Jews solely as settler-colonialists. This is why Jo Roberts's book "Contested Land, Contested Memory" is so timely. Roberts picks up the largely neglected legacy of Edward Said by stressing the need for both Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs to make the imaginative leap to understand the collective memory and narrative of the Other. All too often, the approach of "let's feel each other's pain" carries the implication of an equal-sided conflict, but, like Said, Roberts makes it completely clear that Israel Jews are the oppressor and Palestinian Arabs the oppressed nation. Nor does she equate the genocide of the Holocaust with the ethnic cleansing of the Nakba - like Said, she points out the connection between the two. Roberts asks the Israeli Jewish New Historian Ilan Pappe, one of her many interviewees among both national groups: "did he think that Zionism could simultaneously be seen as a colonizing settler movement that dispossessed the Palestinians and as a liberating movement in terms of persecuted Jews?". Pappe replies: "Yes, there's something in it" and refers to Edward Said. Of course it is perfectly understandable that, at a time when Israel appears to be consolidating its final victory over the Palestinian people, Palestinians and their supporters should not want to bother with the past sufferings of the Jews. But, as Roberts brings out, this refusal to engage with the memory and narrative of Israeli Jews precludes any possibility of change and reconciliation, because it only confirms Israeli Jews in their own intransigence in relation to the Palestinian collective memory and narrative - a denial of the Other that they see as necessary for survival. Roberts also writes of the genuine historical and religious tie between the Jewish people and their ancestral homeland, while making clear that this connection does not justify establishing a Jewish majority ethnic nation-state by driving out over 700,000 Palestinians. My only criticism of the book comes here, in relation to Roberts's reference to Jewish collective memory of "two thousand years of Diaspora" (page 57). As Shlomo Sand has pointed out in "The Invention of the Jewish People", there was an extensive Jewish Diaspora long before the destruction of the Temple in 70 CE, and the Jewish population of Palestine was not exiled after this destruction - the Romans never expelled whole populations. But this qualification does not alter her main point of the significance of the Holy Land in Jewish collective memory. Eoberts's point is echoed by the Israeli Jewish dissident Jeff Halper, in a 2012 interview on the Mondoweiss website. I would like to quote from the interview here because it is so relevant to Roberts's book: [...] "JH: It was colonial. It was a colonial movement, although....this is an important point here, and that is that there was an impulse to Zionism. In other words, it wasn't the story of a British farmer that gets up one day and decides to go to Kenya to get free land. I mean, there was a genuine historic tie between the Jewish people and that country. Even if it's a narrative, even if it's a story, every country has its narratives. You know, this country has a couple. So, y'know, the point is that the Jews living abroad really saw the land of Israel as their territory and so what I'm saying is that it was a genuine national movement coming back to its territory. Then it became - ten minutes later it became - colonial; because it was displacement and it was denial of Palestinian identity and rights and everything else. Why is that important? Because if in fact Zionism was simply a settler-colonial movement, like....the French in Algeria, or the British in Kenya - it's irredeemable, I mean, then when Palestine is liberated the Jews .... go home. And one reason why I think it's not [solely] a colonial movement, was there wasn't a mother country to go home to....the French in Algeria, you could go back to France. Jews have nowhere to go back to. But if in fact you give at least acknowledgement that there was a genuine national kernel, y'know nucleus to this thing, then Zionism can be de-colonized. In other words, then you can envision one state - binational or democratic, y'know however it's worked out - in which the people stay there but only if Zionism is sort of cut that slack, that at the first ten minutes it was a genuine movement. It has to be held accountable for all of the terrible things it did after that, of course, but I think to completely call it a colonial movement misrepresents what Zionism is about." Roberts herself is neither Jewish nor Palestinian - which probably makes it easier for her to empathise with both national groups - but she is not a detached observer. On the contrary, she brings into the mix of historical narratives the painful collective memory of her own Catholic heritage in relation to the many centuries of Christian persecution of Jews that paved the ground for the Holocaust: "Few gentiles know about the centuries of persecution that laid the groundwork for the death camps. This too is part of the occlusion of an unwanted past, at least within Christianity. Yet it is an integral part of the history of both Jews and Christians in Europe. The killing of six million European Jews would not have occurred if the ground had not been prepared by sixteen hundred years of Christian anti-Judaism." In emphasising her own sense of involvement, connection and responsibility, Roberts entirely avoids what the American Jewish theologian Marc Ellis has called "the ecumenical deal" that succeeded the genuine and fruitful "ecumenical dialogue" that was set up in the decades following after the Holocaust. By "ecumenical deal", Ellis means Zionist exploitation of Christian guilt, in order to forestall Christian criticism of unjust Israeli policies. Roberts's conclusion is in many ways a bleak one - "the divide between the two is wide and growing wider "; and this is reflected in the polarisation between the international solidarity movements of both national groups. Yet Roberts also points to the small seedlings of hope - the rise of post-Zionism after Oslo, even though Israelis retreated into nationalism after the outbreak of the Second Intifada in 2000; the widespread recognition within Israel - as a result of the work of the New Historians - of the driving out of the Palestinians in 1948, even though denial of the Nakba has now been replaced by the idea that it was necessary for survival; the willingness expressed again and again in her interviews by both Palestinian Arabs and Israeli Jews to live together. Roberts is not dogmatic about solutions, but evidently thinks that Israeli Jews need to abandon the desperate need to maintain a Jewish majority ethnic nation-state at all costs - which is driving Israelis into more and more undemocratic measures - and find a way of living together on equal terms, both individual and collective, with Palestinian Arabs in one state. But this cannot happen, as she makes clear, unless Palestinians and their supporters find a way of addressing Israeli Jewish fears of becoming an oppressed minority within a Palestinian Arab or even Islamic state. To sum up: this is a complex, nuanced book full of compassion, empathy and courage - a book that manages both to stand back from the heat of the conflict and yet to be deeply involved in it. I recommend everyone, but particularly Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs and their international solidarity movements, to read it.
    In "The Question of Palestine", Edward Said wrote that the Palestinians "have had the extraordinarily bad luck to have a good case in resisting colonial invasion of their homeland combined with, in terms of the international and moral scene, the most morally complex of all opponents, Jews, with a long history of victimization and terror behind them......I do not doubt that every thinking Palestinian, or those like myself whose trials have been cushioned by good fortune and privilege, knows somehow that all the real parallels between Israel and South Africa get badly shaken up in his consciousness when he reflects seriously on the difference between white settlers in Africa and Jews fleeing European anti-Semitism."

    Said's ability to combine recognition of the terrible injustice committed against the Palestinians with understanding of the "long history of victimization and terror" in the collective memory of Israeli Jews tends to be forgotten nowadays in the Palestinian solidarity movement, where there is a growing and disturbing tendency to view Israeli Jews solely as settler-colonialists.

    This is why Jo Roberts's book "Contested Land, Contested Memory" is so timely. Roberts picks up the largely neglected legacy of Edward Said by stressing the need for both Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs to make the imaginative leap to understand the collective memory and narrative of the Other.

    All too often, the approach of "let's feel each other's pain" carries the implication of an equal-sided conflict, but, like Said, Roberts makes it completely clear that Israel Jews are the oppressor and Palestinian Arabs the oppressed nation. Nor does she equate the genocide of the Holocaust with the ethnic cleansing of the Nakba - like Said, she points out the connection between the two.

    Roberts asks the Israeli Jewish New Historian Ilan Pappe, one of her many interviewees among both national groups: "did he think that Zionism could simultaneously be seen as a colonizing settler movement that dispossessed the Palestinians and as a liberating movement in terms of persecuted Jews?". Pappe replies: "Yes, there's something in it" and refers to Edward Said.

    Of course it is perfectly understandable that, at a time when Israel appears to be consolidating its final victory over the Palestinian people, Palestinians and their supporters should not want to bother with the past sufferings of the Jews. But, as Roberts brings out, this refusal to engage with the memory and narrative of Israeli Jews precludes any possibility of change and reconciliation, because it only confirms Israeli Jews in their own intransigence in relation to the Palestinian collective memory and narrative - a denial of the Other that they see as necessary for survival.

    Roberts also writes of the genuine historical and religious tie between the Jewish people and their ancestral homeland, while making clear that this connection does not justify establishing a Jewish majority ethnic nation-state by driving out over 700,000 Palestinians. My only criticism of the book comes here, in relation to Roberts's reference to Jewish collective memory of "two thousand years of Diaspora" (page 57). As Shlomo Sand has pointed out in "The Invention of the Jewish People", there was an extensive Jewish Diaspora long before the destruction of the Temple in 70 CE, and the Jewish population of Palestine was not exiled after this destruction - the Romans never expelled whole populations. But this qualification does not alter her main point of the significance of the Holy Land in Jewish collective memory.

    Eoberts's point is echoed by the Israeli Jewish dissident Jeff Halper, in a 2012 interview on the Mondoweiss website. I would like to quote from the interview here because it is so relevant to Roberts's book:

    [...]

    "JH: It was colonial. It was a colonial movement, although....this is an important point here, and that is that there was an impulse to Zionism. In other words, it wasn't the story of a British farmer that gets up one day and decides to go to Kenya to get free land. I mean, there was a genuine historic tie between the Jewish people and that country. Even if it's a narrative, even if it's a story, every country has its narratives. You know, this country has a couple. So, y'know, the point is that the Jews living abroad really saw the land of Israel as their territory and so what I'm saying is that it was a genuine national movement coming back to its territory. Then it became - ten minutes later it became - colonial; because it was displacement and it was denial of Palestinian identity and rights and everything else. Why is that important? Because if in fact Zionism was simply a settler-colonial movement, like....the French in Algeria, or the British in Kenya - it's irredeemable, I mean, then when Palestine is liberated the Jews .... go home. And one reason why I think it's not [solely] a colonial movement, was there wasn't a mother country to go home to....the French in Algeria, you could go back to France. Jews have nowhere to go back to. But if in fact you give at least acknowledgement that there was a genuine national kernel, y'know nucleus to this thing, then Zionism can be de-colonized. In other words, then you can envision one state - binational or democratic, y'know however it's worked out - in which the people stay there but only if Zionism is sort of cut that slack, that at the first ten minutes it was a genuine movement. It has to be held accountable for all of the terrible things it did after that, of course, but I think to completely call it a colonial movement misrepresents what Zionism is about."

    Roberts herself is neither Jewish nor Palestinian - which probably makes it easier for her to empathise with both national groups - but she is not a detached observer. On the contrary, she brings into the mix of historical narratives the painful collective memory of her own Catholic heritage in relation to the many centuries of Christian persecution of Jews that paved the ground for the Holocaust: "Few gentiles know about the centuries of persecution that laid the groundwork for the death camps. This too is part of the occlusion of an unwanted past, at least within Christianity. Yet it is an integral part of the history of both Jews and Christians in Europe. The killing of six million European Jews would not have occurred if the ground had not been prepared by sixteen hundred years of Christian anti-Judaism." In emphasising her own sense of involvement, connection and responsibility, Roberts entirely avoids what the American Jewish theologian Marc Ellis has called "the ecumenical deal" that succeeded the genuine and fruitful "ecumenical dialogue" that was set up in the decades following after the Holocaust. By "ecumenical deal", Ellis means Zionist exploitation of Christian guilt, in order to forestall Christian criticism of unjust Israeli policies.

    Roberts's conclusion is in many ways a bleak one - "the divide between the two is wide and growing wider "; and this is reflected in the polarisation between the international solidarity movements of both national groups. Yet Roberts also points to the small seedlings of hope - the rise of post-Zionism after Oslo, even though Israelis retreated into nationalism after the outbreak of the Second Intifada in 2000; the widespread recognition within Israel - as a result of the work of the New Historians - of the driving out of the Palestinians in 1948, even though denial of the Nakba has now been replaced by the idea that it was necessary for survival; the willingness expressed again and again in her interviews by both Palestinian Arabs and Israeli Jews to live together.

    Roberts is not dogmatic about solutions, but evidently thinks that Israeli Jews need to abandon the desperate need to maintain a Jewish majority ethnic nation-state at all costs - which is driving Israelis into more and more undemocratic measures - and find a way of living together on equal terms, both individual and collective, with Palestinian Arabs in one state. But this cannot happen, as she makes clear, unless Palestinians and their supporters find a way of addressing Israeli Jewish fears of becoming an oppressed minority within a Palestinian Arab or even Islamic state.

    To sum up: this is a complex, nuanced book full of compassion, empathy and courage - a book that manages both to stand back from the heat of the conflict and yet to be deeply involved in it. I recommend everyone, but particularly Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs and their international solidarity movements, to read it.
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    Interesting but incomplete
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    The book was interesting but did not offer the complete picture I was hoping for. Would have liked more details on various wars, agreements, and negotiations. The focus is mostly on the general feelings of the two sides, very enlightening in itself but at the end I still...Ver más
    The book was interesting but did not offer the complete picture I was hoping for. Would have liked more details on various wars, agreements, and negotiations. The focus is mostly on the general feelings of the two sides, very enlightening in itself but at the end I still had no idea what was going on.
    The book was interesting but did not offer the complete picture I was hoping for. Would have liked more details on various wars, agreements, and negotiations. The focus is mostly on the general feelings of the two sides, very enlightening in itself but at the end I still had no idea what was going on.

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    Thus is the first book I have read having supported from afar the Palestinian cause all my life to understand the trauma of these people. It has provided me with the knowledge and hopefully much needed confidence in continuing to support it. However the book has left me...Ver más
    Thus is the first book I have read having supported from afar the Palestinian cause all my life to understand the trauma of these people. It has provided me with the knowledge and hopefully much needed confidence in continuing to support it. However the book has left me very depressed that a solution will be found in my life time. I am however encouraged reading of the recognition from a number of Jewish establishment respected elites and at the same time surprised why their voices are not heard more loudly if at all. Perhaps they need to do more. Apologies as not a review of the book but my thoughts.
    Thus is the first book I have read having supported from afar the Palestinian cause all my life to understand the trauma of these people. It has provided me with the knowledge and hopefully much needed confidence in continuing to support it.
    However the book has left me very depressed that a solution will be found in my life time. I am however encouraged reading of the recognition from a number of Jewish establishment respected elites and at the same time surprised why their voices are not heard more loudly if at all. Perhaps they need to do more.
    Apologies as not a review of the book but my thoughts.
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    This is such a lucid, well-written book showing a deep understanding of the people and problems. I felt for the first time I began to have some understanding of the history and current situation of the region.
    This is such a lucid, well-written book showing a deep understanding of the people and problems. I felt for the first time I began to have some understanding of the history and current situation of the region.
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    wonderful book
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    This is a wonderful book which seeks to explain the on going conflict between Israelis and Palestinians through their own words. I recommend it to anyone who wants to know more about the conflict.
    This is a wonderful book which seeks to explain the on going conflict between Israelis and Palestinians through their own words. I recommend it to anyone who wants to know more about the conflict.
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