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Drobo Beyond Raid 4-Bay USB 2.0/FireWire 800 SATA 6GB/S Storage Array with Drobo PC Backup DR04DD10

Drobo Beyond Raid 4-Bay USB 2.0/FireWire 800 SATA 6GB/S Storage Array with Drobo PC Backup DR04DD10

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NorCal Explorer
5.0 out of 5 starsBetter than a regular raid / perfect for my iMac's Time Machine
Reviewed in the United States on February 3, 2015
Even though this is a used item it works perfectly and unlike a normal raid I can upgrade the hard drives to expand the capacity of the unit. This is important since I plan on using it for a Time Machine. The fan is a little loud, but when I have music or a movie playing it is quiet enough and not noticeable. Inserted a 4 TB hard drive to replace a very small 80 gb. It took about 4 hours before it came back on line, but now I have lots more room. The max is 16 TBs which more than enough for what I need. Like the fact it turns off and on with the computer and shows how much of the drives are being used. Plan on using it for the next several years. If you need up to 16 TBs of back up this is a simple way to get there.

May 18, 2016 - Well I thought the drobo with its 16 tb capacity would last a while for my Time Machine back-up, but since I have the firmware updated to 1.4.2 it will now take more than 16tb total. Currently have two 5tb drives and two 4tb drives for total 18tb, but I read on the drobo website and if I am understanding it correctly it will handle 8tb hard drives for a total of 32tb, way beyond its original capacity. The unit is still working strong and quiet.
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Hey Mo!!
3.0 out of 5 starsVery important tips...
Reviewed in the United States on October 16, 2012
I work in a place with lots of Drobos. Here's some info (and opinion) to address common problems/questions...

IMPORTANT: Download and install the latest version of Drobo Dashboard software from Drobo's website before connecting the Drobo to your computer.

IMPORTANT: Use Drobo Dashboard to update the firmware in your new Drobo before inserting and erasing your drives. Firmware updates are potentially hazardous, so do them when you don't have data at risk. Then put the Drobo into Standby mode and unplug it before inserting drives in your Drobo.*

*I didn't take my own advice. When I powered up my new Drobo for the first time, I jumped the gun and had already popped new 3TB drives in my new Drobo. It reported that the drives were defective and blinked ominous red lights. I simply installed the latest firmware update via Drobo Dashboard and that took care of the problem. All green lights on reboot. No problem erasing the drives after the firmware update. A few lingering alert windows that had to be dismissed. It's working normally now.

...

Many people don't know how to calculate the capacity of their Drobos. There is a calculator available on Drobo's website (do a Google search for "drobo capacity") that makes it very easy to see how much capacity will be lost to the parity information used when you set up the RAID, if one of the drives is replaced or if you add more drives.

When you first erase your drives with Drobo Dashboard you will be prompted to pick a capacity for your RAID. This is not the *actual* capacity of the RAID. It is a theoretical maximum capacity of the RAID assuming that you maxed out the storage. For most purposes, you'll probably want to pick 16TB as you can then expand the capacity of the RAID volume with new drives up to 16TB total without erasing it. Beware that this will cause the Drobo to report that there is 16TB of capacity to your operating system even though this number is false. (One reason to run the Drobo Dashboard software is that it will alert you to problems such as your RAID filling up.) If you pick a capacity that's less than the effective capacity of your drives then Drobo Dashboard will create a second volume for the extra capacity.

Drobos are slow. My new one is still running a modest copy operation that I started several hours ago. By my calculation, it will take more than 12 hours to copy 1TB of data to it via FW800. This seems to be about on-par or slightly faster than the speeds that most people get. Note that Drobos get even slower as they fill up.

Drobos are good as redundant backup devices, but I would not count on one as a primary storage device or sole backup. They are very very slow, they tend to make annoying rattling-noises and they have a pretty high drive-failure rate, but they're relatively cheap and it's not too great an expense to replace a drive in a Drobo vs the expense of professional data-recovery, so they have a place in a home or small business.

Just don't rely solely on the Drobo. Don't make it the sole repository of your data.

...And don't use "green" drives in a Drobo enclosure. I know that Drobo certifies green drives and it seems like a good idea to use those drives to save power, but they're just going to make your Drobo even slower and because they are not designed to work together in a RAID or to compensate for the vibrations in a multi-drive enclosure you're begging for trouble if you use green drives.
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Hey Mo!!
3.0 out of 5 stars Very important tips...
Reviewed in the United States on October 16, 2012
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I work in a place with lots of Drobos. Here's some info (and opinion) to address common problems/questions...

IMPORTANT: Download and install the latest version of Drobo Dashboard software from Drobo's website before connecting the Drobo to your computer.

IMPORTANT: Use Drobo Dashboard to update the firmware in your new Drobo before inserting and erasing your drives. Firmware updates are potentially hazardous, so do them when you don't have data at risk. Then put the Drobo into Standby mode and unplug it before inserting drives in your Drobo.*

*I didn't take my own advice. When I powered up my new Drobo for the first time, I jumped the gun and had already popped new 3TB drives in my new Drobo. It reported that the drives were defective and blinked ominous red lights. I simply installed the latest firmware update via Drobo Dashboard and that took care of the problem. All green lights on reboot. No problem erasing the drives after the firmware update. A few lingering alert windows that had to be dismissed. It's working normally now.

...

Many people don't know how to calculate the capacity of their Drobos. There is a calculator available on Drobo's website (do a Google search for "drobo capacity") that makes it very easy to see how much capacity will be lost to the parity information used when you set up the RAID, if one of the drives is replaced or if you add more drives.

When you first erase your drives with Drobo Dashboard you will be prompted to pick a capacity for your RAID. This is not the *actual* capacity of the RAID. It is a theoretical maximum capacity of the RAID assuming that you maxed out the storage. For most purposes, you'll probably want to pick 16TB as you can then expand the capacity of the RAID volume with new drives up to 16TB total without erasing it. Beware that this will cause the Drobo to report that there is 16TB of capacity to your operating system even though this number is false. (One reason to run the Drobo Dashboard software is that it will alert you to problems such as your RAID filling up.) If you pick a capacity that's less than the effective capacity of your drives then Drobo Dashboard will create a second volume for the extra capacity.

Drobos are slow. My new one is still running a modest copy operation that I started several hours ago. By my calculation, it will take more than 12 hours to copy 1TB of data to it via FW800. This seems to be about on-par or slightly faster than the speeds that most people get. Note that Drobos get even slower as they fill up.

Drobos are good as redundant backup devices, but I would not count on one as a primary storage device or sole backup. They are very very slow, they tend to make annoying rattling-noises and they have a pretty high drive-failure rate, but they're relatively cheap and it's not too great an expense to replace a drive in a Drobo vs the expense of professional data-recovery, so they have a place in a home or small business.

Just don't rely solely on the Drobo. Don't make it the sole repository of your data.

...And don't use "green" drives in a Drobo enclosure. I know that Drobo certifies green drives and it seems like a good idea to use those drives to save power, but they're just going to make your Drobo even slower and because they are not designed to work together in a RAID or to compensate for the vibrations in a multi-drive enclosure you're begging for trouble if you use green drives.
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livetofish
3.0 out of 5 stars Good when it works. End is catastrophic.
Reviewed in the United States on December 27, 2015
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Almost 5 years of use to date. When it worked, it was great. Plug in the drives, connect to PC/mac, format using the dashboard, map the drive and start using it. You are done. Simple.

There were two major failures. First was the power supply. Easy to fix with an Amazon purchase. Second was catastrophic. No way to recover all the data. Only partial recovery using multiple tools. Different tools gave different diagnostics so no way to know what exactly went wrong. All drives were WD NAS Red drives.

In my opinion, the failure should be graceful. Drobo at the minimum needs to provide recovery tools/methods and better diagnostics to at least retrieve the data.

I pulled them out and tested read/write on each drive separately. The individual drives did not report any errors.

Conclusion - Don't trust this drive or any other with your critical data. Encrypt and keep multiple copies at multiple locations.
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NorCal Explorer
5.0 out of 5 stars Better than a regular raid / perfect for my iMac's Time Machine
Reviewed in the United States on February 3, 2015
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Even though this is a used item it works perfectly and unlike a normal raid I can upgrade the hard drives to expand the capacity of the unit. This is important since I plan on using it for a Time Machine. The fan is a little loud, but when I have music or a movie playing it is quiet enough and not noticeable. Inserted a 4 TB hard drive to replace a very small 80 gb. It took about 4 hours before it came back on line, but now I have lots more room. The max is 16 TBs which more than enough for what I need. Like the fact it turns off and on with the computer and shows how much of the drives are being used. Plan on using it for the next several years. If you need up to 16 TBs of back up this is a simple way to get there.

May 18, 2016 - Well I thought the drobo with its 16 tb capacity would last a while for my Time Machine back-up, but since I have the firmware updated to 1.4.2 it will now take more than 16tb total. Currently have two 5tb drives and two 4tb drives for total 18tb, but I read on the drobo website and if I am understanding it correctly it will handle 8tb hard drives for a total of 32tb, way beyond its original capacity. The unit is still working strong and quiet.
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Douglas Stewart
1.0 out of 5 stars Slow, unreliable, bad user interface, dangerous sense of security easily shattered
Reviewed in the United States on December 22, 2012
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The only reason I did not lose great swaths of my data with this ultimate “backup” device is because I was quick on my feet about replacing it.

This thing was nothing but trouble. It would constantly tell me one of the drives was dead when dropping it back in would find it saying, “Oh, a new drive? Great! Let me just rebuild myself…” OVER THE NEXT 5 DAYS. And it was never the same drive, either. From what I can gather it was corrupting the indexes on drives and then saying there was a hardware failure. Yeah.

And the speed? Oh, FireWire 800 you may have but nowhere near the same speeds as a RAID or even a bare drive! This think should at least be faster than the 1TB FW800 HDD I had sitting next to it but no, it was noticeably slower!

The best decision about this thing I ever made was to replace it with my own server. I built an Ubuntu box with 5 x 2 TB HDD’s running a ZFS raidz1 array. The result? Drastically faster performance and data high data integrity. Sure, it took me an afternoon to put it all together but in all the time I’ve had it it’s never once complained in a way that made me think my data might be lost. Ever.

The best part? Aside form the drives it cost less for all the parts (boot drive, processor, motherboard, case, PSU, cables, etc) than this stupid thing!

There is no one who should buy this. Know about computers? Go RAID or build your own server. You’ll get better speed and reliability as well as flexibility. Don’t know anything about computers? This still has a learning curve to it. Just buy a large hard drive from Western Digital and be done with it. Have lots of money? Pay someone to build you something better or buy a large disk array. Either way, there is no one who would find this to be the best solution.

Oh, and how it functions even when it’s working well? When you set this thing up you have to tell it the max capacity you’d like to partition it for. What this is really saying is, “Regardless of how much space is actually on here, I’m going to tell your computer that I’m 16 TB of usable storage even though you only have three 2 TB drives inside which, at most, is 4 TB of usable storage.”

At this point the only think my Drobo is good for is sitting in a corner, turned off, storing some now empty hard drives for the day I eventually need them for something. It will never again be turned on for fear that it might go to the next step in vexing me and simply burn down my house.
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TikiZealot
3.0 out of 5 stars Quirky but cool technology
Reviewed in the United States on November 5, 2010
Verified Purchase
The Drobo touts ease of use, however there are enough quirks that you will likely rely on tech support both at installation and if you move your Drobo. I've worked with a number of these now; and some of the normal things that seem to occur include it losing communication with one or more drives when rebooting it or even the first time you turn it on.

When I installed this unit with 4 brand new WD Green drives, the software told me the drives had old firmware and they were unusable. It prompted me to download an update to the management software which I did. Then after applying that, I had the same error. While talking to tech support they had me reboot the device and do some different things with the management software. After resetting at the power level, only two drives were 'showing' of the four installed. Tech support said "well you could have bad drives". I powered it off and reseated all the drives again. Turned on, then 3 of 4 came back. Same process again and I could see all 4 drives again. Really touchy hardware. This is scary considering if you 'lose' more than one drive due to quirky hardware connections, your data could really be at risk.

After getting through all that, and getting the array running, I decided to move from a USB cable to firewire interface for faster performance. I went through the approved 'shutdown process' and changed cables. Upon reboot, it showed a 'bad drive'. I hadn't moved the Drobo at all. Just restarted it. Now I had all these blinking lights, read the manual...had to call tecj support; and they had me...you guessed it....re-seat the drive in question. Once I did that, I was rewarded with a 60 hour rebuild time for the array. I can still use it, and my data is still there...but I'm just afraid.

It's bad enough to have to deal with drives that fail, but flimsy connections and constant worry about what seem to be unusual physical design flaws has me worried.
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Amazon13
4.0 out of 5 stars Drobo S 5 Bay (Replaced With Drobo 5D 5-bay Storage Array)
Reviewed in the United States on February 1, 2012
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Data Robotics Drobo 4-Bay USB 2.0/FireWire 800 SATA Storage Array DR04DD10 O.K., But customer service leaves something to be desired. Updates are awful, and I hope you like to read because you are going to have to read a lot of information about use, bugs and solutions and most of them doesn't solve your problems. The actual device is simple to setup use but that's as far as simplicity goes. Nothing else has been even remotely easy and get ready to do a lot of online correspondence with tech support because they give you long list of items to check for your problem. I would not buy anything from this company ever again because in my opinion, they have too many products and seem not to have perfected any of them! The units are simple to set up and install your hard drives but once that's done in in for a long haul in trying to get everything to come together for it to work on your computer.

My Dashboard, a part of the overall package in order to use the Drobo properly, has never been able to update any of the software for the unit that I bought, GEN2. Don't expect their tech support to be direct in answering any of your questions. They send you an email generated from your support question(s)and you have to figure out which option applies to your situation, not good, you can spend hours on their site trying to figure out what you should do to solve your problem. The software is difficult to get and you must make sure that you get the correct one for your version or it doesn't work. It just takes too long to get this unit together to do a simple job such as backing up your computer plus these units have "End Of Life" dates the same as Windows have end of life for its software programs and Operating Systems. I wouldn't recommend this to anyone due to the products complications. Don't let the beauty fool you!

UPDATE: 03/08/2014
Drobo replaced this unit with Drobo S, that you can turn it on and off. I was not so happy with it until recently the Dashboard was updated... Automatically by way of the Internet, and all I can say to Drobo is "RIGHT OWN"! Now this is what I'm talking about... After the update the unit does everything that it's suppose to do and the automatic updates are the best, you no longer have to worry about your Dashboard being out of date and the Firmware also updates with the Dashboard. The one that I have is the Drobo_S, it have 5 slots and I've just added a 4TB Drive without any problems so far. Will keep you updated in the future as to my progress, also this one shuts down when the computer shuts down! Thanks Drobo!

UPDATE 2: 03/08/2014 @5.54 pm
Wow, The Drobo S has been replaced with the 
Drobo 5D 5-bay Storage Array, Thunderbolt/USB 3.0  It looks like the Drobo S in appearance with the 5-Bays it's updated with the USB 3.0.
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Kat Page
5.0 out of 5 stars Works as advertised
Reviewed in the United States on February 23, 2012
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They promise simplicity and that's exactly what I got. I didn't want to be a an IT admin of my own business. Well, I have to be so let's make it as easy on myself as possible. Some of my friends suggested I buy an old box, installed some free NAS software, do this and do that and I can get my own cheaper mass storage.

I have way too much going on to be worrying about that on top of everything else. I wanted something literally plug and play. That's what Drobo is. When I got it I popped in my 3TB drives and waited for Drobo to format. (Keep in mind, there is new firmware to support high capacities so you may or may not have to do that first, but the dashboard software took care of that.) All in all setup took me about 20 minutes. That includes updating the firmware.

Then it's on to transfer data! Slowly . . . There are reports that this is slow. And honestly, it's not that it's slow. It's just not fast. I assume people see this and think it must be monstrously fast or something but it's no faster than my old drives. Maybe it's a Western Digital thing? I got this to replace to number 1 TB externals that were clogging up my desk. Running a Black Magic Speed Test I get around 35 MB/s write/read speeds. Not bad. Just as fast as my 1TB's.

Granted, I've only had it one day so it's long term survival I can't speak to. I have friends that highly recommend this and since I trust them, I trust the device.

*Note about speed: I have using WD Caviar GREEN drives. The green drives are known for being slower than the Black or Velociraptor. So keep in mind you CAN get faster performance. I just chose capacity over speed. I think Seagate makes a 7200RPM 3TB drive, but I opted for WD because it's what I use and it was offered next day and I needed it now.

It's only con so far is it's noisy. 60dB noisy. My place is normally around 35-40dB. Then again, I like it quiet. The average house is around 50dB. Ironically, since it's advertised along side the mac you would think they would be more mac zen-like. Jobs believed strongly that his computers shouldn't make any noise so as to not distract the user from their task. The Drobo takes that belief and smashes it into little pieces. I haven't heard it while not transferring data yet . . . but geez this sucker likes to make noise.

All in all, I still recommend it. This is just a small part of my overall data storage overall. I didn't get this as a work drive by any means. I got this as a storage drive for files I may need access to, but don't on a regular basis. Or when a project has moved from in the works to the back burner (such as documentaries where there's a lag between events.)

My primary drives will be LaCie Big2 drivers (just released on their site, and hopefully soon Amazon too) with Thunderbolt that will deliver the speeds people hoped Drobo would. 300MB/s speed.

*edit

It's been working great, just very noisy. I think mine is noisier than it's meant to be. I took the front panel off and all the noise disappeared. I think possibly I had something not attached tightly enough.
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Kevin Nicholls
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2.0 out of 5 stars Too quirky to be reliable, too expensive to be quirky.
Reviewed in the United States on July 9, 2012
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I've had this on-again/off-again intrigue with the Drobo ever since Cali Lewis started slinging them. I'm something of a RAID5 devotee at work, but at home, my data was shamefully unprotected. I really loved the idea of JBOD with parity, using old drives lying around, giving them a new lease on life.

After a few years, the Drobo finally dropped to a price I was willing to pay -- but now I had to wrestle with storage. My three current "old" drives are about 1.5TB, and for the price of the Drobo, I'm awfully close to the same price it would cost to mirror two new 3TB SATA 6 drives in RAID1. Is it growable? Well, not as easily as the Drobo advertises, but at the same time, it absolutely spanks the Drobo in terms of price, speed, and redundancy.

Hmm...

But... Cali... and, and, and, a shiny new box for my desk...

I took the plunge anyway. The packaging? Surprisingly nice inside, almost Apple-esque. The setup? Ridiculously easy. The performance? Not so good. On a dedicated FireWire 800 card with custom drivers on a Core i7 system running with 32 gigs physical RAM and an SSD, I was getting not-quite USB2 speeds. Tons of other people have done benchmarks, so I'll spare you the numbers. I will point this out though: At the time of this review, This is listed as "USB 2.0/FireWire 800 SATA 6GB/S Storage Array". While it's certainly true that you can use SATA 6 drives in the Drobo, it would be a waste of money when FireWire tops out at just under 800 Mbit/S.

The nail in the Drobo's coffin, at least for me, is that it seems to randomly go to sleep -- and doesn't wake up without being rebooted, or having the FireWire cable physically removed. I'm not a very big fan of waiting for a disk to spin up, or for an array to spin up, but when it *won't* spin without physical intervention? Sorry, that's a deal breaker. Especially when my 
Mediasonic HFR2-SU3S2 ProRaid 4 Bay External Hard Drive Enclosure  has been happily chugging along since day one on another system.

In fact... unless you have your heart set on needlessly spending money to keep cheap old drives in play, I'd give the above-mentioned Mediasonic box a serious look. For a Benjamin less than the Drobo, you get hardware RAID and better peace of mind. Admittedly, its setup is harder -- you have to push the RAID button a couple of times, and then the confirmation button -- but it's super fast on USB 3.0 or eSATA, and you could buy an extra 2TB drive (even a 3TB drive if you time everything just right) for the price difference.
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C. Wolf
1.0 out of 5 stars BEWARE DROBO DOES NOT DETECT FAILURES!!
Reviewed in the United States on September 11, 2013
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My wife purchased a Drobo for her Photog business last Sept. as a high security backup solution. Ten months later she needed an asset from the backup stores on the Drobo (which was reporting "Drobo as healthy" as always) only to find that she could not access the Drobo and the OS (Win7) said the data on the J: Drobo was corrupt. She pays Drobo for support, so when she called them and said the Drobo Dashboard says it is reporting that the Drobo is healthy, yet the OS will not even allow access to protect the data on the Drobo from further damaged, they told her "the Drobo system does not protect or alert the user of anything except a mechanical failure of the drives"! WHAT THE???
OK, so now we are screwed, and then I ask them what the format of the drives inside the Drobo was, hoping to use a conventional Raid recovery tool, only to be told that the format is some proprietary mix of Raid5 / JBOD / Drobo and is unique to Drobo, but I could try the 3rd party Stellar Phoenix software, which ran for 4 days without success. A simple mirrored Raid inside the the PC would have worked better with the OS to alert my wife before she needed to retrieve her asset from the backup, and it definitely would have been easier to deal with the recovery. Remember the point of a backup is to have a healthy and secure copy for the occasion that you need an asset from it. Drobo makes their system seem like this warm and fuzzy box of security and makes you feel really good for doing the right thing, until it fails from anything other than "mechanical failure" and surprise, you are worse off than if you had just stuck a Raid backup in the PC and been done with it. For a business that stores important assets, use only a backup system that CAN and does alert to drive deterioration soft or hard, before the drive fails, according to Drobo's own support personal, after the fact, DROBO DOES NOT!
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D. Le
5.0 out of 5 stars Very reliable and flexible storage back up
Reviewed in the United States on December 30, 2015
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I bought this unit in November 2010 as a attached backup storage device in case my iMac computer drive failed. I started with 4 2TB hard drive configuration (Seagate and Western Digital).

Since then, I have upgraded/replaced 3 of the 4 2TB drives with newer 4 TB drives. The upgrade was dead simple, just unplug and plug. In the last upgrade, the unit is so reliable I don't even notice that one of the drive has failed. Its access time just slowed down! Each upgrade started with me noticing the red light coming on. I don't even turn on the Dashboard!

This Drobo unit has reliably performed for over 5 years, through 3 hardware upgrade and at least 3 operating system upgrade. I can mix and match 2TB and 4TB drives at interval of my choosing. I'm so impressed that I have to go back and write a review to give Drobo 5 stars!
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