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Database Processing: Fundamentals, Design, and Implementation (Review Copy) Paperback – 1750

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  • Paperback
  • ISBN-10: 0130655511
  • ISBN-13: 978-0130655516
  • Product Dimensions: 15.3 x 12.6 x 3.1 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 4.2 pounds
  • Average Customer Review: 3.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (31 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #9,526,847 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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By A Customer on February 18, 2003
Format: Hardcover
I have to agree with the negative reviews so far. This book is a nightmare! I'm currently using this book for class.
The author contradicts himself not only from chapter to chapter but within individual paragraphs.
He spends entirely too much time on simple ideas and breezes through complex ones.
I find myself reading through paragraphs thinking, "Oh, he's still talking about that? Why is he still taking about that?"
Then the next paragraph, "What the hell is he talking about!?"
His sentences are wordy and complicated. He has forgotten the basic structure of the English sentence. That being: Stick to one subject per each, please. Throughout these verbose outbursts, he combines terms that are so similar they cause confusion. As an example:

"The physical description of a semantic object domain is just a reference to the semantic object description."
This gem of a sentence is halfway through Chapter Four. However, since this book is so poorly thought out and written, I still don't know what any of those terms mean or refer to.
If I knew what he was talking about, I would rewrite that sentence. However, I don't. So I've given up reading and am now writing a scathing review. What does that tell you?
Thankfully, there are many figures scattered throughout the book to attempt to clarify what the author can't seem to. Unfortunately, none of the figures being refered to are ever on the same page. The student must read the sentence, flip the page, try to remember what the author was rambling about, flip back, ... you get the point.
All in all, this is the most miserable textbook I have ever read. And perhaps one of the most overpriced. At "this cost", not only do expect this book to basically read itself, I would expect it to teach me through osmosis while I sleep.
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Format: Hardcover
Price over $130? Whew! But Kroenke's text is comparable in price (when purchased new) with its major competitor, Hoffer, Prescott, and McFadden's 7th edition (HPM), with which I will compare Kroenke's text below. (HPM is by the same publisher; eventually all textbooks will be sold by only one publisher!) To help with the price, I will not ask my students to buy a supplementary text for the database we choose to use, but will provide a few on library reserve.

Kroenke's text is geared more to the computer science major than to the business information systems major. For example, Kroenke recognizes that mySQL is now industrial strength, and so includes a discussion of it. For example, HPM is 700 pages of fine print, busy diagrams, and wordy explanations some of which talk down to the student ("A 'term' is a word or phrase that has a specific meaning for the business"). Kroenke's is 675 open, clearly written, succinct pages. At my college there is a sequence of courses for databases, another sequence for software engineering, and a third sequence for system analysis. HPM tries to do some of all of three of these topics, thereby diffusing a database focus. Kroenke's text by contrast is focused. In fact, the apparently comparable length to HPM is misleading, because which end chapters you read in Kroenke depends on the database you choose.

As the publisher's blurb says, Kroenke made a wise decision to introduce (easy) SQL early. And I add that Kroenke continues to introduce hard SQL later, such as nested EXISTS for the computer science major. HPM introduces SQL later, and only the easy parts.

XML is becoming increasingly important to database users. Kroenke's treatment of XML is adequate; HPM's treatment is cursory.
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Format: Hardcover
This is really not a critique of the material in the text since I consider it adequate as a beginners guide to database concepts. Due to my limited experience with database texts I cannot comment more on the actual material, but having read many other technical texts, I can say that the material and the examples provided are laid out poorly. The text will explain a concept, but if you are truly new to this subject, you will find yourself repeatedly flipping back and forth by a few pages to the examples and diagrams that they refer to. Correct this problem for the next edition and all's well.
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A huge re-write is needed, the author overpowers the basics of modeling and industry used methodology with his semantic object ramblings. The author contradicts himself in several chapters, which are bloated with useless words and ridden with mistakes.
I was forced to use this as a class textbook, however I would not consider the book worthy of keeping for reference. Urge your professors to use another text - the author is simply fixated on semantic objects - to the detriment of the victims who have purchased this book.
If your professor insists you use this text, change classes. If you are considering this book for reference material - it's a waste, unless you are a fan of the little used, (if at all) semantic object modeling.
Summary - too little focus on basic entity relationships, diagramming, and normalization - very heavy on author's fixation of semantic objects.
It's disgusting that Kroenke recently released another book on the basics of databases - and did NOT damage the customers with the semantic object fixation that makes this book an absolute mess.
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