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Deep And Wide is unapologetic about the fact that one of the most important ways that people become Christians is that they are invited to church by a friend or family member, and then they are confronted with God (usually over time, often over years) and are changed because of that confrontation. Deep and Wide is both Andy's story and the story of North Point.
If you want to hear about how Andy felt called to start a church (it really was the result of being pushed into it and problems with the church he was previously working at), or you want to find out why North Point is so focused on its children's ministries, or why Andy believes that one point sermons that are not primarily exegetical (but primarily are focused on an application) are the right way to preach, then you need to read this book.
This book is not for everyone. If you are at a church and you do not want to invite anyone to come to your church (I have been a member and the chair of the deacons at a church that I did not want anyone else to come to, so I know the feeling) then you may not want to read this book. On the other hand, if you really believe that the church should exist in order to point people to Christ, then this book is for you.
I do not think the book is perfect. I really wish Andy had re-written the section about church history. He does what most evangelicals do and points to the early church, mentions Constantine and then skips to the Reformation and again skips to modern US. I think skipping over church history like that damages modern Evangelical's understanding of what church is and the importance of church history and the relationship of the church to the church Universal throughout history. But given that mis-step, I fully support the theology that comes out of the chapter that says that the church is primarily about those that are outside of the church.
If you are a lay person and do not really influence policy at your church you might think that this book is not for you. I think you are wrong. The average lay person is the one that actually moves the church. Church staff are nice, they are the ones that influence budget, get to do all the behind the scenes work at church and get paid to think about the church, but it is the average lay person that actually knows people that do not go to church.
The problem with thinking that it should be the church staff that are responsible for evangelism is that church staff often do not know anyone that is unchurched. At one point in time I worked for a denomination, attended seminary, worked as an intern at my local church and lead a small group at the church. Do you know how many people in a normal day that I had a real relationship with that were not Christians? Zero. And that still is my problem.
It is the people that work in the secular world, who are parents of children that go to public school, who are on the Rotary Board and belong to a softball league that win people for Christ. They may not preach or be comfortable sharing their faith, but many they can invite their friends to church. And those friends often will come and over time those friends will come to know Christ and be baptized and lead families to know Christ. The problem is when people that are uncomfortable sharing their faith attend churches that they would not invite their worst enemy. That is the place where most Christians in the US are at. They are not comfortable directly sharing their faith and they are ashamed of the church that they go to because if they were not a Christian already, they would not go there.
Deep and Wide does cast a wide net. It steps back to give a history for North Point, it spends time on the how to keep unchurched the focus and there are two sections that are primarily for church leaders (how to preach to unchurched and how to lead a church through a change in focus). But all of those parts are important if a church is serious about focusing on the unchurched.
In the end this book is about a vision. It is a vision I believe in and a vision that this book has encouraged me to strive after living out. Church is often a pain in the neck. It is usually made up of a bunch of people not like you. It takes time and effort to serve and attend. But that is the group of people that Christ said were to be the group that reaches the world for him. I do not care if you believe in a church model like North Point. All that I want for you is to be in a church that is reaching people for Christ. This book makes me want to do that more.
A digital copy of this book was provided by the publisher through Netgalley for purposes of review.
Andy Stanley and the North Point model of church is certainly not without its detractors. Growing a church that size opens one up to a lot of criticism along the way. For the most part, I think Andy does a good job of addressing many of these criticisms. I certainly have my own criticisms and concerns (more on this later).
In Deep and Wide, Andy lays out the history and ministry philosophy of North Point Community Church. He gets personal by revealing the unconventional path they took to get where they are today (including a somewhat bitter split from Andy's father, Charles Stanley, and his church in Atlanta). Throughout the book, Andy's tone is humble and only a little defensive when addressing his critics. Along the way, Andy lays out his plan for being a church that reaches both a wide audience and still takes followers of Christ deeper in their spiritual walk. Along the way, it seemed evident to me that Andy genuinely desires to see the people in his city and beyond come to know, experience and love Jesus. He and his team have been relentless in pursuing ways to rethink how and why we do church.
As I mentioned, I certainly don't agree with everything Andy says about church practices and leadership. My biggest concern and criticism of this book comes from the fundamental premise of the book, which is often repeated and championed, and is the subtitle of the book: Creating Churches Unchurched People Love to Attend. For Andy this is the ultimate reason for any church to exist. For North Point this has been their driving vision and passion throughout their existence. But we must ask the question, is this the ultimate goal for the church? I don't think so. Should our churches be places that are welcoming and loving toward outsiders? Yes, I think so, but it's not the ultimate goal. Should all people involved in a church worship service strive toward excellence in all they do? Yes, I think this honors the Lord. But again, this isn't the reason the church exists.
The church exists for the glory of God. He should be the center and focus of all we do. We gather corporately to worship Him and build one another up in Christ. Andy's vision is too short-sighted, it's too man-centered. Jesus Christ is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He is worthy of all of our praise. He is the Creator and Sovereign of the universe. We should come together to behold Him! Our worship should fuel our outreach, evangelism, and our sacrifice to the ends of the earth to make His name great among the nations!
I have a tremendous respect for Andy Stanley and his leadership, but oh that he would aim higher!
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