| Memory Speed | 14000 MHz |
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| Graphics Coprocessor | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti |
| Chipset Brand | NVIDIA |
| Graphics Card Ram Size | 11 GB |
EVGA 11G-P4-2487-KR GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Ftw3 Ultra, Overclocked, 2.75 Slot Extreme Cool Triple + iCX2, 65C Gaming, RGB, Metal Backplate, 11GB GDDR6
| Graphics Coprocessor | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti |
| Brand | EVGA |
| Graphics Ram Size | 11 GB |
| GPU Clock Speed | 1755 MHz |
| Video Output Interface | DisplayPort |
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- Real Boost Clock: 1755 MegaHertz; Memory detail: 11264MB GDDR6; Get smooth, tear-free gameplay at refresh rates Upto 240 Hz, plus HDR, and more. This is the ultimate gaming display and the go-to equipment for enthusiast gamers.
- Triple HDB fans and all new cooler offers higher performance cooling and much quieter acoustic noise
- Adjustable RGB LED offers configuration options for all your PC lighting needs. Compatibility of the EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ultra gaming, 11G P4 2487 KR, 11GB GDDR6, iCX2 Technology, RGB LED, Metal Backplate (11G P4 2487 KR)
- Built for EVGA precision x1, EVGA all new tuning utility monitors your graphics card and gives you the power to overclock like a pro
- Requirements: Minimum of a 650 watt power supply, two available 8 pin or 6+2pin PCIe, power dongles, total power draw: 250 watts. Windows 10 64 bit, Windows 7 64 bit.
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The EVGA GeForce RTX K-series graphics cards are powered by the all-new NVIDIA Turing architecture to give you incredible new levels of gaming realism, speed, power efficiency, and immersion. With the EVGA GeForce RTX K-series gaming cards you get the best gaming experience with next generation graphics performance, ice cold cooling, and advanced overclocking features with the all new EVGA Precision x1 software. The new NVIDIA GeForce RTX GPUs have reinvented graphics and set a new bar for performance. Powered by the new NVIDIA Turing GPU architecture and the revolutionary NVIDIA RTX platform, The new graphics cards bring together real-time Ray tracing, artificial intelligence, and programmable shading. This is not only a whole new way to experience games - this is the ultimate PC gaming experience.
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| Graphics Card Interface | PCI Express | — | PCI Express | — |
| Graphics Coprocessor | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti | NVIDIA GeForce RTX™ 2080 Ti | NVIDIA GeForce RTX™ 2080 Ti |
| Graphics Ram Size | 11 GB | 11 GB | 11 GB | 11 GB |
| Graphics Ram | GDDR6 | GDDR6 | GDDR5 | GDDR5 |
| Hardware Interface | PCI Express x8 | — | PCI Express x8 | — |
| Included Components | RTX 2080Ti, User Manual, | — | ROG-STRIX-RTX2080TI-O11G-GAMING graphics card, warranty card, support DVD, Quick start guide | — |
| Item Dimensions | 11.9 x 9.5 x 5.5 inches | — | 12 x 5.13 x 2.13 inches | 16 x 3.5 x 9.2 inches |
| Memory Bus Width | 352 bits | 352 bits | 352 bits | 352 bits |
| Memory Clock Speed | 14000 MHz | — | 1665 MHz | 1650 MHz |
| Style | Graphics Card | — | ROG STRIX OC | graphics card |
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| Brand | EVGA |
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| Item model number | 11G-P4-2487-KR |
| Hardware Platform | PC |
| Item Weight | 5.7 pounds |
| Product Dimensions | 11.9 x 9.5 x 5.5 inches |
| Item Dimensions LxWxH | 11.9 x 9.5 x 5.5 inches |
| Processor Brand | Nvidia |
| Manufacturer | EVGA |
| ASIN | B07KVKRLG2 |
| Is Discontinued By Manufacturer | No |
| Date First Available | November 25, 2018 |
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I game at 1440p so the 1080 Ti was a great choice. I still love that card, but wanted to try the new features of the 2080 Ti. The price is silly, but the new hardware is no joke. There still are only a handful of games (and 3DMark) that use DLSS or ray tracing; I've only tried the benchmark in 3DMark, but ray tracing and DLSS really are amazing. Granted, 3DMark made a specific test to show this off (and nVidia has made a test for DLSS), but the reflections and lighting are incredible. nVidia wanted to get in the market before AMD to charge crazy prices so there really are few games that can use this new tech, but it will happen soon enough. I am bummed that the 2080 doesn't give much of a performance bump over the 1080 Ti because of the price. I had to shell out another $400 bucks to get about 30% better frames at 1440p.
I've only had time to play Monster Hunter: World and Far Cry 5 with the new card. With the 1080 Ti I was getting 60-75 FPS on Monster Hunter and about 60-100 FPS on Far Cry 5. Monster Hunter hasn't gotten much better as I'm now getting about 60-90 FPS with the 2080 Ti, but Far Cry 5 has gone up to 90-144 FPS (144 Hz monitor). Monster Hunter World requires a serious amount of hardware, so I'm not too worried about the performance difference. I am excited to try Tomb Raider and Metro Exodus. I've seen from other reviews that turning on ray tracing decreases performance. The other HUGE thing is that because of the adoption rate of the 2080 and 2080 Ti, nVidia is releasing ray tracing on Pascal cards. They will probably take a fairly deep dip in performance since they don't have the same processing power as the 2080 and 2080 Ti, but at least nVidia is trying to give new software enhancements to people that can't afford the new flagship cards. DLSS can increase quality while also increase framerate when programmed correctly. The 1xxx series cards can't do that.
Yes the price is crazy, yes scalpers are getting extra money, but this card is the real deal. The only faster consumer card is the Titan RTX, but it goes for an incredible $2,500 with only about a 10% increase in FPS. You could SLI two 2080 Ti's for cheaper. I've heard the 2080 Ti can run most games in 4K at 60 FPS which is the holy grail of gaming. I tend to side with professional reviewers that framerate is more important that resolution which is why I have a 1440p monitor and not a 4K monitor. The other issue is getting a 4K monitor that can go over 60 FPS. There are only a handful of them out there and they cost at least a grand.
If you have the money, the 144Hz+ monitor, and the patience to wait for features to be released for new games, this is the best choice. If you're on a 900 series card and are running 1440p or 1080p, this card is overkill- go with the 2070 or 2080. It's ironic that 1080 Ti prices have climbed again so you're paying the same or more than for the 2080.
I have quite a few fans in my case, so using the Precision X1 software, I'm able to keep the card at about 73 C using the auto fan curve feature. I can hear the card, but it's not any louder than my 1080 Ti Founder's Edition. Being able to change the LED is nice since I have a blue theme in my case. I've almost always gone with EVGA because their customer support is the best and they provide so many choices in cards. Even though there is the FTW3 and cards that are better cooled, I'm still able to get about 1800 MHz on the card just using the X1 software. I don't see a huge need to spend $100-300 more for that, but that's my opinion.
Enough rambling. If you have the $ and want high resolution, high framerate goodness, buy this card.
Machine Specs:
MSi MEG z390 ACE Mobo
Intel i7-9700k OC to 5 GHz with Corsair H80i V2 cooler
EVGA 2080 Ti Black Edition
16 GB Corsair RGB DDR4 3000 MHz
Samsung 850 Pro SSD for OS
Seagate SSHD 4 TB for games and storage
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2, 80+ PLATINUM 1000W PSU
My TV is a Samsung 4K 48" with no Gsync or Freesync. Playing WoW with all but ground clutter at max (so i can see chests etc. easier) the lowest fps was 70 (flying really fast over the tree tops) and my average is 120 (pretty much every where). No tearing or stuttering and no AA enabled in the WoW menu. This particular card is HUGE. If you did want to use two of them, the top cards fan air intakes would be severely restricted. Why you would need two does beg the question as one RTX 2080 Ti (EVGAS' top model) runs 4K with ZERO issues. Replacing my EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3. My 1080 ran my 27" rogswift IPS monitor (same settings) with no issues, but did struggle at times running my 4k TV, but it DID run my 4k TV.
If like me you really really want to play games on a large 4k TV, EVGAs 2080 Ti fits the bill. down side? it's $1,500.00. I was holding out for AMD and Nvidia to release their next set of video cards, but decided not to wait until October or even later.
My ASUS X-99 decided to quit working, so went with GIGABYTE X570 Auros Master, two Sabrent 1T 4.0 and 3600x chip set. Only one M.2 slot is pcie 4.0 the other 2 are 3.0. I liked the cost and feature set of the MB versus other offerings that had two or more 4.0 enabled M.2 slots. I do not have any tools that would show how fast the X-99 (with Samsung M.2) versus the X570 are, but both boot quickly (at least the X-99 used to). Cost was just under $1,000 to replace my MB, chip set and two HD. I included information on my system so you would know what the 2080 ti was running in. I've built 5 computers for family members and all 5 used Corsair carbide air 540. Windowed panel, thumb screws for panels and filters and VERY easy to install components in.
Bottom line: If a 2080 Ti is in your budget, it's a great performer.
Gezz, I see so many people out there complaning that their rig burned up because they over clocked it with 2 case fans! :/ WHAT? WAIT? YOU SAID WHAT? MY HEAD HURTS NOW! I digress.
If you are looking to have a MONSTER and you got the $$$$ buy a EVGA RTX 2080 Ti because this thing is a beast just out of the box without any overclocking. I can not imagine, well YES i can IMAGINE, BUT I do not want to. This thing cost alot for me. Some people make this kind of $$ in seconds and blow this kind of $$ on a night on the town. I would be kicked out of the house if I did that. I have to work to pay this off. So you see this is a investment for me, not a toy. Have Fun and I hope this helps someone who is looking to upgrade to a MONSTER of a video card. I know I love mine. I will have it for a very long time. My work is slow at the moment because work on my shop is in progress, and this THING that was sprung on us ;).
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Evga est je pense l’une des meilleures dans ce domaine, garantie (si produit enregistré) de 3 ans, excellent retour sav et **apparemment** la garantie transférable si revente en occasion.
Acheter – de 1100 euro avec 2 jeux (je note quelques soucis avec Amazon pour les jeux, j’avais acheté puis retourner une 2080 simple avec 1 jeu offert, du coup pour ce modèle ci avec 2 jeux gratuits au moment de mon achat, je n’ai pas pu avoir mon 2 eme jeux…).😖
👍👍La carte, et mes conseils.👍👍
****Ventilation.****
-Tu a un bon boitier ventilé, un processeur bien refroidit….
Prend ce modèle, a noté qu’une 2080 ti chauffe énormément, ce modèle est limite avec juste 2 ventillo.
Pour ma part j’ai un cooler master h500p, processeur ryzen (qui chauffe moins qu un intel) équipé d’un très bon ventirad+ 2 ventillo de 200 + 3 de 140.
74 degrés sur tomb raider en 4k casi tous a fond, ce qui est potable.
Tu as un boitier moyen, 2 options, soit tu changes ton boitier, soit tu prends la version plus chère à 3 ventillo .
Pour note, j’ai une alim de 650w, et elle tient sans soucis, je conseillerai néanmoins de prendre une 750 mini si overcloking du cpu et gpu .
****Achat face aux nouvelles carte 2080 super.****
La 2080 *super* est au-dessous de la 2080 ti, c’est évident mais en terme de prix la 2080 super a un meilleur rapport perf/prix.
Si tu hésites, ton écran décidera !
J’avais acheté une 2080 normal (celle de msi) j’ai un écran 4k.
Une 2080 classique en 4 k, c’est juste a moins de descendre les graphismes et pas mal d’options ce qui est dommage.
Une 2080 super, pour moi c’est du 4k avec un niveau moyen/bon en graphisme, sans parler de mettre tous en ultra, des graphisme élevé, mais clairement si ton budget est a 800/900 max a y réfléchir .
Une 2080 ti, c’est inutile sur du 1080p…, inutile d’acheter cela pour un tel écran.
Pour la 2080ti Sois-tu a un écran 2k et tu veut un max de fps
Sois-tu veut un solide 60 fps sur du 4k en ultra (attention il y a quand même quelques sacrifice a faire, du 4k avec ray tracing en ultra il n’y a pas encore de carte capable de le faire a 60 fps).
⛔⛔Ps : Pensez a contrôler la carte devant le livreur, je vois qu’il y a eu des soucis avec des produit autre qu’une 2080 ti dans le colis⛔⛔
En espérant que mon avis aura été utile merci de me le faire savoir.
Reviewed in France on July 29, 2019
Evga est je pense l’une des meilleures dans ce domaine, garantie (si produit enregistré) de 3 ans, excellent retour sav et **apparemment** la garantie transférable si revente en occasion.
Acheter – de 1100 euro avec 2 jeux (je note quelques soucis avec Amazon pour les jeux, j’avais acheté puis retourner une 2080 simple avec 1 jeu offert, du coup pour ce modèle ci avec 2 jeux gratuits au moment de mon achat, je n’ai pas pu avoir mon 2 eme jeux…).😖
👍👍La carte, et mes conseils.👍👍
****Ventilation.****
-Tu a un bon boitier ventilé, un processeur bien refroidit….
Prend ce modèle, a noté qu’une 2080 ti chauffe énormément, ce modèle est limite avec juste 2 ventillo.
Pour ma part j’ai un cooler master h500p, processeur ryzen (qui chauffe moins qu un intel) équipé d’un très bon ventirad+ 2 ventillo de 200 + 3 de 140.
74 degrés sur tomb raider en 4k casi tous a fond, ce qui est potable.
Tu as un boitier moyen, 2 options, soit tu changes ton boitier, soit tu prends la version plus chère à 3 ventillo .
Pour note, j’ai une alim de 650w, et elle tient sans soucis, je conseillerai néanmoins de prendre une 750 mini si overcloking du cpu et gpu .
****Achat face aux nouvelles carte 2080 super.****
La 2080 *super* est au-dessous de la 2080 ti, c’est évident mais en terme de prix la 2080 super a un meilleur rapport perf/prix.
Si tu hésites, ton écran décidera !
J’avais acheté une 2080 normal (celle de msi) j’ai un écran 4k.
Une 2080 classique en 4 k, c’est juste a moins de descendre les graphismes et pas mal d’options ce qui est dommage.
Une 2080 super, pour moi c’est du 4k avec un niveau moyen/bon en graphisme, sans parler de mettre tous en ultra, des graphisme élevé, mais clairement si ton budget est a 800/900 max a y réfléchir .
Une 2080 ti, c’est inutile sur du 1080p…, inutile d’acheter cela pour un tel écran.
Pour la 2080ti Sois-tu a un écran 2k et tu veut un max de fps
Sois-tu veut un solide 60 fps sur du 4k en ultra (attention il y a quand même quelques sacrifice a faire, du 4k avec ray tracing en ultra il n’y a pas encore de carte capable de le faire a 60 fps).
⛔⛔Ps : Pensez a contrôler la carte devant le livreur, je vois qu’il y a eu des soucis avec des produit autre qu’une 2080 ti dans le colis⛔⛔
En espérant que mon avis aura été utile merci de me le faire savoir.
+ Beautiful design and LEDs
+ Runs fairly quiet and cool
+ Incredible performance
+ Precision X1 software has some very useful tools and information
- Had to return the first one due to crashing and BSOD
- Price to performance is awful (NVIDIA's fault, not EVGA)
- Potential for GPU sag
- Precision X1 software loves to crash on my system a lot of the time
This card is an absolute star performer and will handle gaming, video editing, art design, and anything else you can throw at it, with ease. I don't blame EVGA for the pricing as NVIDIA controls the pricing points for each level of GPU, but because of this pricing, it is hard to recommend this card to pure gamers unless they are after decent frames in 4K. The price to performance ratio is abysmal for gamers.
Ray Tracing (RTX), the card's main selling point, is not readily available in mainstream gaming titles, and when it is activated, it becomes a major performance hit as it will drop frames dramatically. NVIDIA's answer to this drop was supposed to be Deep Learning Super Sampling (DLSS), and while it may work, there are even fewer titles that can utilize that feature.
I have had no issues overclocking between 100-150 MHz on the core clock, and over 1000 on the memory clock, and during both stock and overclocked settings, this gpu never went over 70 degrees celsius on the stock fan curve. With a custom, and more aggressive fan curve, the temperature hovers between 60-65 degrees in my terrible summer weather.
Precision X1 software is useful and provides the user with lots of data and temperature read outs that you will not find on other software, and overclocking is a breeze within this utility. I still do not use it over MSI Afterburner simply because it crashes about 50% of the time when I use it. It is more a question of when, rather than if, but when X1 becomes more stable through patches and updates it will be an excellent software program to use with this card and others.
Overall, it is an incredible graphics card which I would definitely recommend to people who are after a gpu that will excel at more than just gaming, like video editing and graphic/art design, or alternatively, if you are a hardcore gamer, with an enthusiast level PC that is after 4K 60+ FPS or 1440p 120+ FPS on maxed out settings, this card will fit the bill, and that bill will be large.
My specs for reference:
Intel i7-9700K @ 5.0 GHz
32GB RAM @ 3200 MHz
Reviewed in Canada on July 11, 2019
+ Beautiful design and LEDs
+ Runs fairly quiet and cool
+ Incredible performance
+ Precision X1 software has some very useful tools and information
- Had to return the first one due to crashing and BSOD
- Price to performance is awful (NVIDIA's fault, not EVGA)
- Potential for GPU sag
- Precision X1 software loves to crash on my system a lot of the time
This card is an absolute star performer and will handle gaming, video editing, art design, and anything else you can throw at it, with ease. I don't blame EVGA for the pricing as NVIDIA controls the pricing points for each level of GPU, but because of this pricing, it is hard to recommend this card to pure gamers unless they are after decent frames in 4K. The price to performance ratio is abysmal for gamers.
Ray Tracing (RTX), the card's main selling point, is not readily available in mainstream gaming titles, and when it is activated, it becomes a major performance hit as it will drop frames dramatically. NVIDIA's answer to this drop was supposed to be Deep Learning Super Sampling (DLSS), and while it may work, there are even fewer titles that can utilize that feature.
I have had no issues overclocking between 100-150 MHz on the core clock, and over 1000 on the memory clock, and during both stock and overclocked settings, this gpu never went over 70 degrees celsius on the stock fan curve. With a custom, and more aggressive fan curve, the temperature hovers between 60-65 degrees in my terrible summer weather.
Precision X1 software is useful and provides the user with lots of data and temperature read outs that you will not find on other software, and overclocking is a breeze within this utility. I still do not use it over MSI Afterburner simply because it crashes about 50% of the time when I use it. It is more a question of when, rather than if, but when X1 becomes more stable through patches and updates it will be an excellent software program to use with this card and others.
Overall, it is an incredible graphics card which I would definitely recommend to people who are after a gpu that will excel at more than just gaming, like video editing and graphic/art design, or alternatively, if you are a hardcore gamer, with an enthusiast level PC that is after 4K 60+ FPS or 1440p 120+ FPS on maxed out settings, this card will fit the bill, and that bill will be large.
My specs for reference:
Intel i7-9700K @ 5.0 GHz
32GB RAM @ 3200 MHz
This is when I first realized that EVGA will NOT pay for the shipping TO them but only FROM them. I sucked it up and paid the price in hopes that I would get my card replaced but EVGA did not honor their warranty.
They sent me the same card back IMMIEDIATELY. They could not have tested it for more than a day. I received absolutely NO information from EVGA about what they did or didn't do. If not for UPS notifying me about the package I would not have even known it was coming. But what should have been my replacement was nothing but the same card with seemingly nothing done to it in the same box I sent it in and not a peep from EVGA about anything.
I didn't receive any emails and there was nothing in my profile on their convoluted website either. After contacting them they basically confirmed that they did nothing but reapply thermal paste(which is completely useless and pointless when it comes to the artifacting problem).
This approach is highly suggestive that their RMA people are not well trained, knowledgeable or intuitive.
I'm in an email exchange with them now and they have started to try and deflect blame to the games I took screenshots of artifacting, suggesting to me its caused by the game engine and not their broken card. I played these games for MONTHS without any problems until the card started to show signs of defect out of nowhere.
The same defects that 2080 ti's are so well known for. I also have confirmed to them that other cards I have used and am using right now are not causing the same defects but they are still playing games and avoiding responsibility.
They wasted the expensive shipping charge I was stuck with and have shown no genuine remorse about it.
I would never purchase something from EVGA again and would advise looking elsewhere if you expect a legitimate warranty.
The card is heavy, as you can see in my pic there is a bit of sag. I ordered one of those verticle support arms to relieve some of the stress on the board. It doesnt come with those evga cable ties. I had those from my old hybrid aio cooler on my old gpu.
This is obv noisier than my old gpu since im back to 3 fans vs a liquid cooler, but even after modifying the fan curve i find it bearable. Loud, but i dont notice it once i get into a game.
I have always been impressed by how EVGA cards boost. Mine is boosting to 1950 mhz, numbers may +/- with each card.
Ive also had no issues with temps. Has not exceeded 70*C at load for extended periods. Though i also have 5 140 mm fans in this case, 2 blow in and 4 blow out.
If you still have 1080p monitors i wouldnt jump on this yet since it is procey 10xx series cards should do the trick, but for 1440p (perhaps 4k) this is probably the route to go.
Reviewed in Canada on March 20, 2020
The card is heavy, as you can see in my pic there is a bit of sag. I ordered one of those verticle support arms to relieve some of the stress on the board. It doesnt come with those evga cable ties. I had those from my old hybrid aio cooler on my old gpu.
This is obv noisier than my old gpu since im back to 3 fans vs a liquid cooler, but even after modifying the fan curve i find it bearable. Loud, but i dont notice it once i get into a game.
I have always been impressed by how EVGA cards boost. Mine is boosting to 1950 mhz, numbers may +/- with each card.
Ive also had no issues with temps. Has not exceeded 70*C at load for extended periods. Though i also have 5 140 mm fans in this case, 2 blow in and 4 blow out.
If you still have 1080p monitors i wouldnt jump on this yet since it is procey 10xx series cards should do the trick, but for 1440p (perhaps 4k) this is probably the route to go.
Danke an Amazon das das Rücksenden so gut geklappt hat und die Neulieferung auch. Zum spielen hätte auch meine alte GTX 980Ti oder die RTX2070 gereicht, aber bei Cuda Anwendungen ist die 2080Ti echt Top und auch unter Volllast nicht zu laut, obwohl es nur die Black ist. Die Ultra ist zwar etwas kühler durch den 3-Slot Kühler aber das EVGA Kühlsystem schafft es die Karte unter Vollast auch nach Stunden unter 80°C zu halten.
Ich nutze die Karte allerdings nur in einem PCI-E 2.0 Board (X58 Classified) mit einem i7 6 Kerner.
Trotz des Alters harmonisieren die Komponenten und die CPU hat genug Druck für die GPU. Die beiden schenken sich nix unter Volllast ;-)











































