A long read but a good read; It contains Biblical and scientific (mostly geological) analysis; Understated in its conclusions; Look up technical terms
This two volume set of 1000+ pages was a long read but a good read. Many of the pages, particularly in the first volume, are given to a careful analysis of the relevant content in Genesis 1-11 so the geological content is slow in coming. Dr. Snelling also gives some background information about himself and his youth and development. A careful reading will show that Dr. Andrew Snelling is a good Bible teacher and a good and insightful geologist. Many of the chapters are slow in developing with the conclusions made by Dr. Snelling being subtle and understated. Not everything will be stated overtly so think about what is being said and the evidence being provided. Conclusions are almost left to the reader for many pages at a time and even at the ends of chapters. When the geological arguments due begin to emerge, Dr. Snelling has much to say with examples drawn from localities in many parts of the world. Even though the two volume set is large, readers would do well to stop frequently to look up technical terminology and words like mafic and felsic. Understanding some basic mineralogy like quartz, feldspar, olivine and pyroxene is also helpful and can be acquired along the way by doing your own research. Study the maps and diagrams at the back. For an even deeper dive, dig into select footnotes. Some of the conclusions are go beyond geology like insights on the youthfulness of comets and the salinity of the oceans. The book makes a significant dent in the effort to create a comprehensive framework for flood geology as an explanation for most of the sedimentary rocks in the world. It is a good place to start in building that understanding.
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Earth's Catastrophic Past: Geology, Creation & the Flood Hardcover – October 30, 2009
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Andrew A. Snelling is a research scientist and technical editor who earned his Ph.D. from the University of Sydney, Australia, in 1982. After working with the Creation Science Foundation of Australia, he joined the Institute for Creation Research in 1998 as Professor of Geology. He was a principal investigator in the 8-year, ICR-led RATE (Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth) research project, to which he made major contributions in rock dating studies using radioisotopes and in studies of radiation halos (radiohal) and tracks (fission tracks) in various minerals. Dr. Snelling currently resides in Australia and serves as Director of Research at Answers in Genesis, as well as Editor-in-Chief of Answers Research Journal.
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A long read but a good read; It contains Biblical and scientific (mostly geological) analysis
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If God created and governs the material universe, the study of that universe, known as science, should provide supporting evidence. This book shows how that is the case in very convincing fashion.
The author is a professional geologist who obtained his Ph. D. degree from a secular university. He has years of experience in his field and an in-depth knowledge of many other areas of scientific inquiry. The author shows how the uniformitarian approach to the earth's history fails to explain many earth features while the creation event and Noah's flood, as described in the Bible, provide explanations better supported by scientific findings. What most surprised me about this book is the extensive knowledge, supported by many footnoted references, the author has in many scientific disciplines. This two volume set is an encyclopedic reference work showing the superiority of the Biblical world view in every area of science. It is well written and understandable to the average lay person and yet contains a wealth of detailed scientific evidence. I would recommend this work to anyone wishing to have a complete knowledge of how the Biblical account is supported by scientific evidence and is superior to secular ideas and beliefs.
The author is a professional geologist who obtained his Ph. D. degree from a secular university. He has years of experience in his field and an in-depth knowledge of many other areas of scientific inquiry. The author shows how the uniformitarian approach to the earth's history fails to explain many earth features while the creation event and Noah's flood, as described in the Bible, provide explanations better supported by scientific findings. What most surprised me about this book is the extensive knowledge, supported by many footnoted references, the author has in many scientific disciplines. This two volume set is an encyclopedic reference work showing the superiority of the Biblical world view in every area of science. It is well written and understandable to the average lay person and yet contains a wealth of detailed scientific evidence. I would recommend this work to anyone wishing to have a complete knowledge of how the Biblical account is supported by scientific evidence and is superior to secular ideas and beliefs.
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In 2 Peter 3, the Apostle Peter warns that in the last days scoffers will come and deny the Last Judgment -- that Jesus will come to judge the living and the dead. The basis for their objection to the Second Coming is their belief in the principle of uniformitarianism -- "all things have continued as they were since our ancestors fell asleep" or "the present is the key to the past." However, Peter refutes this assumption of uniformitarianism by appealing to the witness of the Scriptures to two great global miracles -- Creation and the Deluge. If Peter is correct that Creation and the Deluge were each miraculous, then that would mean that the scientific method unaided would be incapable of unravelling the history of the world any more than a chemical analysis of the wine at the wedding feast of Cana could have demonstrated that the wine had previously been water before the miraculous transformation brought about by Christ.
In seeming fulfillment of the prophecy of Peter, in 1793, Leftist French Revolutionaries suppressed the University of Paris -- the most prestigious University in the world with its characteristic liberal arts approach that sought to reconcile Sacred Scripture and natural sciences. In 1795, James Hutton, a physician and leading Scottish Enlightenment figure who was a Professor at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland, articulated the principle of uniformitarianism. Liberal arts never recovered and in 1810, the University of Berlin was founded -- a new kind of education built upon anti-supernatural scientistic assumptions. In the aftermath of the devastation wreaked by the guillotine and leftist indoctrination on liberal arts education, scientists who sought to see how far Scripture and the natural sciences could be harmonized were scarce to be found. The new orthodoxy descended upon geologists and uniformitarianism has been a deep dogma of the geological consensus ever since.
Four books have attempted to challenge that consensus by appealing to Creation and the Flood as miraculous events largely responsible for the geology we find ourselves in:
In 1838, Presbyterian minister and geologist George Young wrote Scriptural Geology, or An Essay on the High Antiquity Ascribed to the Organic Remains Imbedded in Stratified Rocks. However, the book proved to be nothing more than a voice crying out in the wilderness against the uniformitarian orthodoxy. In 1923, Seventh Day Adventist George McCready price wrote The New Geology: A Textbook for Colleges, Normal Schools, and Training Schools; and for the General Reader. However, the 1920s were a period of such theological liberalism in Protestant Churches that the Virgin Birth itself was under attack and conservative Christians did not follow the theologically isolated Adventist writer into the endeavor of heeding the prophecy of Peter.
On the other hand, in 1961, Virginia Tech Professor of Hydraulic Engineering John Morris reintroduced the idea in his book The Genesis Flood and Its Scientific Implications and inspired the modern creationist movement. Since 1961, a generation of creationists have obtained doctorates in the sciences and certain scientists have been won over to the creationist camp. A recent Pew poll indicated two percent of scientists are creationists in spite of the hostility of the scientific consensus. Since 1961, creationist geologists have made enormous headway accounting for the evidence, writing countless books and articles.
This book, published in 2007, is the update to The Genesis Flood. It has the great strength of being an excellent summary. Given the enormity of the creationist literature, it often has to squeeze four hundred page books that various creationist authors spent decades researching and writing into a few pages. The arguments are systematic. The book sets up an audacious target. It seeks to demonstrate that the literal and obvious sense of Genesis is the only theologically coherent interpretation of Scripture -- an absolute target. It seeks to demonstrate that the Deluge explains the available evidence much better than the uniformitarian assumption. In places, I was underwhelmed by some arguments. In places, I was amazed by the simplicity and power of some arguments. For me, I found the book fell short of the absolute argument. It certainly demonstrated that the literal and obvious sense of Genesis is the most coherent interpretation but not necessarily the only coherent interpretation. And it demonstrated that the Deluge is certainly a viable explanation for the geological evidence.
I like the current Creationist consensus. Particularly brilliant and beautiful is accelerated nuclear decay,, the most recent addition to the other tenets (ecological zonation, catastrophic plate tectonics, a single ice age, etc.) which remarkable evidence points to. I was impressed that the book made a fairly direct appeal to the miraculous in the section where this was discussed. Up until that point, I was concerned that the miraculous would not be directly involved in the proposed understanding of the Deluge. And this is an area of particular interest to me after I read The Quantum Enigma: Finding the Hidden Key. The idea of accelerated nuclear decay fits very nicely with The Quantum Enigma, which is awesome.
As a Catholic, that is as far along as I needed the argument to carry me based on the principle articulated by Pope Leo XIII: "The literal and obvious sense of Scripture should be assumed unless and until it becomes rationally untenable." No one who took the time to read this book with an open mind would conclude that the geology renders the literal sense rationally untenable. Ultimately, the bar set by Pope Leo XIII is the reason I am a convert from theistic evolution to creationism.
That is the good news. The bad news is that Andrew Snelling's writing style leaves something to be desired. The vision proposed by the creationist is breathtakingly beautiful but at many points Snelling seems almost determined to make it sound as if the creationist vision is just as pedantic as the breathtakingly boring uniformitarian view (I remember being bored to the point of devastation in 4th grade when my teacher began to talk about the millions of years of geologic history of Virginia). Snelling would not have to abandon his scientific eye for detail to evoke an image of the warp and woof of the beautiful geological vision he is articulating.
Also, Snelling does not have a systematic approach to argumentation. Often, I would need to be several pages into a Chapter to fully grasp the argument structure of premises of uniformitarian interpretation and conclusion and which premises Snelling was targeting and why. Snelling would benefit from stating his argument intentions up front at the beginning of every chapter (he does this in some).
The best sections were clearly modeled closely on John Morris, who clearly has a much more captivating narrative style but does not benefit as much from the newfound insights of the movement he helped to found. This book took me six months to read (and I am usually a very quick reader). It was an extremely informative and ultimately enjoyable slog.
Ultimately, I want to thank the creationist movement for winning me over to a more childlike and trusting approach to the Scriptures. Converts and prospective converts to the creationist viewpoint or people who are wavering on the fence should read this book to know the comprehensiveness of the arguments proffered by the movement in the critical field of geology. If you have the stomach for reading this overly long review, you probably also have the stomach to read and benefit from this book. This book remains THE book for the full, modern argument for creationist geology.
In seeming fulfillment of the prophecy of Peter, in 1793, Leftist French Revolutionaries suppressed the University of Paris -- the most prestigious University in the world with its characteristic liberal arts approach that sought to reconcile Sacred Scripture and natural sciences. In 1795, James Hutton, a physician and leading Scottish Enlightenment figure who was a Professor at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland, articulated the principle of uniformitarianism. Liberal arts never recovered and in 1810, the University of Berlin was founded -- a new kind of education built upon anti-supernatural scientistic assumptions. In the aftermath of the devastation wreaked by the guillotine and leftist indoctrination on liberal arts education, scientists who sought to see how far Scripture and the natural sciences could be harmonized were scarce to be found. The new orthodoxy descended upon geologists and uniformitarianism has been a deep dogma of the geological consensus ever since.
Four books have attempted to challenge that consensus by appealing to Creation and the Flood as miraculous events largely responsible for the geology we find ourselves in:
In 1838, Presbyterian minister and geologist George Young wrote Scriptural Geology, or An Essay on the High Antiquity Ascribed to the Organic Remains Imbedded in Stratified Rocks. However, the book proved to be nothing more than a voice crying out in the wilderness against the uniformitarian orthodoxy. In 1923, Seventh Day Adventist George McCready price wrote The New Geology: A Textbook for Colleges, Normal Schools, and Training Schools; and for the General Reader. However, the 1920s were a period of such theological liberalism in Protestant Churches that the Virgin Birth itself was under attack and conservative Christians did not follow the theologically isolated Adventist writer into the endeavor of heeding the prophecy of Peter.
On the other hand, in 1961, Virginia Tech Professor of Hydraulic Engineering John Morris reintroduced the idea in his book The Genesis Flood and Its Scientific Implications and inspired the modern creationist movement. Since 1961, a generation of creationists have obtained doctorates in the sciences and certain scientists have been won over to the creationist camp. A recent Pew poll indicated two percent of scientists are creationists in spite of the hostility of the scientific consensus. Since 1961, creationist geologists have made enormous headway accounting for the evidence, writing countless books and articles.
This book, published in 2007, is the update to The Genesis Flood. It has the great strength of being an excellent summary. Given the enormity of the creationist literature, it often has to squeeze four hundred page books that various creationist authors spent decades researching and writing into a few pages. The arguments are systematic. The book sets up an audacious target. It seeks to demonstrate that the literal and obvious sense of Genesis is the only theologically coherent interpretation of Scripture -- an absolute target. It seeks to demonstrate that the Deluge explains the available evidence much better than the uniformitarian assumption. In places, I was underwhelmed by some arguments. In places, I was amazed by the simplicity and power of some arguments. For me, I found the book fell short of the absolute argument. It certainly demonstrated that the literal and obvious sense of Genesis is the most coherent interpretation but not necessarily the only coherent interpretation. And it demonstrated that the Deluge is certainly a viable explanation for the geological evidence.
I like the current Creationist consensus. Particularly brilliant and beautiful is accelerated nuclear decay,, the most recent addition to the other tenets (ecological zonation, catastrophic plate tectonics, a single ice age, etc.) which remarkable evidence points to. I was impressed that the book made a fairly direct appeal to the miraculous in the section where this was discussed. Up until that point, I was concerned that the miraculous would not be directly involved in the proposed understanding of the Deluge. And this is an area of particular interest to me after I read The Quantum Enigma: Finding the Hidden Key. The idea of accelerated nuclear decay fits very nicely with The Quantum Enigma, which is awesome.
As a Catholic, that is as far along as I needed the argument to carry me based on the principle articulated by Pope Leo XIII: "The literal and obvious sense of Scripture should be assumed unless and until it becomes rationally untenable." No one who took the time to read this book with an open mind would conclude that the geology renders the literal sense rationally untenable. Ultimately, the bar set by Pope Leo XIII is the reason I am a convert from theistic evolution to creationism.
That is the good news. The bad news is that Andrew Snelling's writing style leaves something to be desired. The vision proposed by the creationist is breathtakingly beautiful but at many points Snelling seems almost determined to make it sound as if the creationist vision is just as pedantic as the breathtakingly boring uniformitarian view (I remember being bored to the point of devastation in 4th grade when my teacher began to talk about the millions of years of geologic history of Virginia). Snelling would not have to abandon his scientific eye for detail to evoke an image of the warp and woof of the beautiful geological vision he is articulating.
Also, Snelling does not have a systematic approach to argumentation. Often, I would need to be several pages into a Chapter to fully grasp the argument structure of premises of uniformitarian interpretation and conclusion and which premises Snelling was targeting and why. Snelling would benefit from stating his argument intentions up front at the beginning of every chapter (he does this in some).
The best sections were clearly modeled closely on John Morris, who clearly has a much more captivating narrative style but does not benefit as much from the newfound insights of the movement he helped to found. This book took me six months to read (and I am usually a very quick reader). It was an extremely informative and ultimately enjoyable slog.
Ultimately, I want to thank the creationist movement for winning me over to a more childlike and trusting approach to the Scriptures. Converts and prospective converts to the creationist viewpoint or people who are wavering on the fence should read this book to know the comprehensiveness of the arguments proffered by the movement in the critical field of geology. If you have the stomach for reading this overly long review, you probably also have the stomach to read and benefit from this book. This book remains THE book for the full, modern argument for creationist geology.
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I didn't know what to expect from these volumes but I was excited at the prospect of good information on this subject. And these books really nailed it! It has all that I wanted to gain a better understanding of and so much more. I loved the explanation of the rock layers and the ice age.
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Deepened my understanding of geology and gave me a framework to understand the Flood on a scientific level.
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Amazing resource. This will help me in teaching my kids the truth of the Bible.
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Comprehensive and well researched
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Dr Snelling has authored a comprehensive work on Noahcian Flood geology in which he presents a model for understanding how this catastrophe occurred and how we see its effects now. He shows clearly that data and field geology can be variously interpreted, and that many conventional explanations simply do not stand up to scrutiny. It is necessarily technical and detailed and so not an easy read, but well worth the effort. I never appreciated before just what was involved in this cataclysm.
Where this book fails though is in it's discussion on the 'Creation Week'. Dr Snelling falls into the same trap as the conventional geologists he argues against, namely, starting with an idea and trying to bend the facts to prove it. His insistence that creation took place in 7 literal 24 hour days is both preposterous and unscriptural. I understand his view that Christians who accept a longer time-frame often do so to allow a belief in evolution. But it is still possible to believe in divine creation and a longer creative week.
He quotes liberally from the scriptures, including 2 Peter chapter 3, but completely ignores verse 8, 'one day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day'. 1900 years before Einstein, this simple fisherman recognized that God is not a physical being and thus not bound by physical time. Why then would He work to a human week?
Also the Genesis account does not conclude the 7th day as it does with the other 6, but rather leaves it open. The Apostle Paul refers to this at length in Hebrews chapters 3&4, saying plainly that the 'Day of Rest' was continuing in his day, some 4000 years later. We have every reason to believe that it continues today. Why then would the other days need to be 24 hours long?
Bizarrely, he highlights the creation of Adam on the 6th day, and the task he had of naming the animals which God brought to him. Even if this was only the 8000 or so 'family kinds' Dr Snelling says went into the ark, then it still amounts to studying and naming each kind in a couple of seconds. Perhaps they were on some kind of celestial conveyor belt? As a father myself, I loved watching my son learn and play and grow in his own time. Why would Adam's father be any different? Wouldn't God have allowed proper time for Adam to grow mentally and emotionally? And why would God say 'it is not good for man to continue by himself if he was going to make a wife for him within a couple of hours? It just makes no sense.
I think this insistence on trying to shoehorn the theory into the doctrine is a serious flaw in this otherwise excellent book. There must be readers who are prepared to question the conventional model and examine the idea of global catastrophe who will be put off by the doctrinal errors (notably the 7 24 hour day creation, the immortal soul and the Trinity) and the absurdities that they lead to. And that is a shame because this book is otherwise very very good.
Where this book fails though is in it's discussion on the 'Creation Week'. Dr Snelling falls into the same trap as the conventional geologists he argues against, namely, starting with an idea and trying to bend the facts to prove it. His insistence that creation took place in 7 literal 24 hour days is both preposterous and unscriptural. I understand his view that Christians who accept a longer time-frame often do so to allow a belief in evolution. But it is still possible to believe in divine creation and a longer creative week.
He quotes liberally from the scriptures, including 2 Peter chapter 3, but completely ignores verse 8, 'one day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day'. 1900 years before Einstein, this simple fisherman recognized that God is not a physical being and thus not bound by physical time. Why then would He work to a human week?
Also the Genesis account does not conclude the 7th day as it does with the other 6, but rather leaves it open. The Apostle Paul refers to this at length in Hebrews chapters 3&4, saying plainly that the 'Day of Rest' was continuing in his day, some 4000 years later. We have every reason to believe that it continues today. Why then would the other days need to be 24 hours long?
Bizarrely, he highlights the creation of Adam on the 6th day, and the task he had of naming the animals which God brought to him. Even if this was only the 8000 or so 'family kinds' Dr Snelling says went into the ark, then it still amounts to studying and naming each kind in a couple of seconds. Perhaps they were on some kind of celestial conveyor belt? As a father myself, I loved watching my son learn and play and grow in his own time. Why would Adam's father be any different? Wouldn't God have allowed proper time for Adam to grow mentally and emotionally? And why would God say 'it is not good for man to continue by himself if he was going to make a wife for him within a couple of hours? It just makes no sense.
I think this insistence on trying to shoehorn the theory into the doctrine is a serious flaw in this otherwise excellent book. There must be readers who are prepared to question the conventional model and examine the idea of global catastrophe who will be put off by the doctrinal errors (notably the 7 24 hour day creation, the immortal soul and the Trinity) and the absurdities that they lead to. And that is a shame because this book is otherwise very very good.
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Brian Warnes
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Really interesting and revealing
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A big read with lots of really carefully thought out scientifically sound explanations for the history of our world. Anyone serious about science should read this.
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S. Mitchell
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documents flood geology theory
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He documents the flood geology theory perhaps the best of any yet. It still doesn't really fit the real world though.
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unable to review as I gave the second volume to ...
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unable to review as I gave the second volume to my husband as a gift. he said it is a little too technical for him because it is so scientific; however, he will finish reading to the end.
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