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A Fire Upon The Deep (Zones of Thought, 1) Mass Market Paperback – February 15, 1993
A Hugo award-winning Novel!
“Vinge is one of the best visionary writers of SF today.” ―David Brin
Thousands of years in the future, humanity is no longer alone in a universe where a mind's potential is determined by its location in space, from superintelligent entities in the Transcend, to the limited minds of the Unthinking Depths, where only simple creatures, and technology, can function. Nobody knows what strange force partitioned space into these "regions of thought," but when the warring Straumli realm use an ancient Transcendent artifact as a weapon, they unwittingly unleash an awesome power that destroys thousands of worlds and enslaves all natural and artificial intelligence.
Fleeing this galactic threat, Ravna crash lands on a strange world with a ship-hold full of cryogenically frozen children, the only survivors from a destroyed space-lab. They are taken captive by the Tines, an alien race with a harsh medieval culture, and used as pawns in a ruthless power struggle.
Tor books by Vernor Vinge
Zones of Thought Series
A Fire Upon The Deep
A Deepness In The Sky
The Children of The Sky
Realtime/Bobble Series
The Peace War
Marooned in Realtime
Other Novels
The Witling
Tatja Grimm's World
Rainbows End
Collections
Collected Stories of Vernor Vinge
True Names
- Print length624 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherTor Science Fiction
- Publication dateFebruary 15, 1993
- Dimensions4.15 x 1.2 x 6.75 inches
- ISBN-100812515285
- ISBN-13978-0812515282
4 stars and above
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Amazon.com Review
Faster-than-light travel remains impossible near Earth, deep in the galaxy's Slow Zone--but physical laws relax in the surrounding Beyond. Outside that again is the Transcend, full of unguessable, godlike "Powers." When human meddling wakes an old Power, the Blight, this spreads like a wildfire mind virus that turns whole civilizations into its unthinking tools. And the half-mythical Countermeasure, if it exists, is lost with two human children on primitive Tines World.
Serious complications follow. One paranoid alien alliance blames humanity for the Blight and launches a genocidal strike. Pham Nuwen, the man who knows about Countermeasure, escapes this ruin in the spacecraft Out of Band--heading for more violence and treachery, with 500 warships soon in hot pursuit. On his destination world, the fascinating Tines are intelligent only in combination: named "individuals" are small packs of the doglike aliens. Primitive doesn't mean stupid, and opposed Tine leaders wheedle the young castaways for information about guns and radios. Low-tech war looms, with elaborately nested betrayals and schemes to seize Out of Band if it ever arrives. The tension becomes extreme... while half the Beyond debates the issues on galactic Usenet.
Vinge's climax is suitably mindboggling. This epic combines the flash and dazzle of old-style space opera with modern, polished thoughtfulness. Pham Nuwen also appears in the nifty prequel set 30,000 years earlier, A Deepness in the Sky. Both recommended. --David Langford, Amazon.co.uk
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“Fleeing a menace of galactic proportions, a spaceship crashes on an unfamiliar world, leaving the survivors--a pair of children--to the not-so-tender mercies of a medieval, lupine race. Responding to the crippled ship's distress signal, a rescue mission races against time to retrieve the children and recover the weapon they need to prevent the universe from being changed forever. Against a background depicting a space-time continuum stratified into 'zones of thought,' the author has created a rarity--a unique blend of hard science, high drama, and superb storytelling.” ―Library Journal
“A tale that burns with the brazen energy of the best space operas of the golden age. Vinge has created a galaxy for the readers of the '90s to believe in...immense, ancient, athrum with data webs, dotted with wonders.” ―John Clute, Interzone
“Vernor Vinge's best novel yet.” ―Greg Bear, author of Moving Mars
“Vast, riveting, far-future saga...The overall concept astonishes; the aliens are developed with memorable skill and insight, the plot twists and turns with unputdownable tension. A masterpiece of universe building.” ―Kirkus Reviews
“The first grand SF I've read in ages...Vinge is one of the best visionary writers of SF today.” ―David Brin, author of Earth
“Fiercely original...Compelling ideas in the book include problems and advantages of group mind, galactic communications turbidity, and the prospect of civilizations aspiring to godhood.” ―Stewart Brand, founder of the Whole Earth Catalog
From the Publisher
"Fleeing a menace of galactic proportions, a spaceship crashes on an unfamiliar world, leaving the survivors--a pair of children--to the not-so-tender mercies of a medieval, lupine race. Responding to the crippled ship's distress signal, a rescue mission races against time to retrieve the children and recover the weapon they need to prevent the universe form being forever changed. Against a background depicting a space-time continuum stratified into 'zones of thought,' the author has created a rarity--a unique blend of hard science, high drama, and superb storytelling." --Library Journal
"A tale that burns with the brazen energy of the best space operas of the golden age. Vinge has created a galaxy for the readers of the 90s to believe in...immense, ancient, athrum with data webs, dotted with wonders." --John Clute, Interzone
"Vernor Vinge's best novel yet." --Greg Bear, author of Moving Mars
"Vast, riveting, far-future saga...The overall concept astonishes; the aliens are developed with memorable skill and insight, the plot twists and turns with unputdownable tension. A masterpiece of universe-building." --Kirkus Reviews
"The first grand SF I've read in ages...Vinge is one of the best visionary writers of SF today." --David Brin, author of Earth
"Fiercely original...Compelling ideas in the book include the problems and advantages of group mind, galactic communications turbidity, and the prospect of civilizations aspiring to godhood." --Steward Brand, founder of the Whole Earth Catalog
A New York Times Notable Book of the Year
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A Fire Upon The Deep
By Vinge, VernorTor Science Fiction
Copyright © 1993 Vinge, VernorAll right reserved.
ISBN: 9780812515282
ONE
The coldsleep itself was dreamless. Three days ago they had been getting ready to leave, and now they were here. Little Jefri complained about missing all the action, but Johanna Olsndot was glad she’d been asleep; she had known some of the grownups on the other ship.
Now Johanna drifted between the racks of sleepers. Waste heat from the coolers made the darkness infernally hot. Scabby gray mold grew on the walls. The coldsleep boxes were tightly packed, with narrow float spaces every tenth row. There were places where only Jefri could reach. Three hundred and nine children lay there, all the kids except herself and her brother Jefri.
The sleep boxes were light-duty hospital models. Given proper ventilation and maintenance, they would have been good for a hundred years, but…Johanna wiped her face and looked at a box’s readout. Like most of the ones on the inside rows, this was in bad shape. For twenty days it had kept the boy inside safely suspended, and would probably kill him if he stayed one day more. The box’s cooling vents were clean, but she vac’d them again—more a prayer for good luck than effective maintenance.
Mother and Dad were not to blame, though Johanna suspected that they blamed themselves. The escape had been put together with the materials at hand, at the last minute, when the experiment turned wicked. The High Lab staff had done what they could to save their children and protect against still greater disaster. And even so, things might have worked out if—
“Johanna! Daddy says there’s no more time. He says to finish what you’re doing an’ come up here.” Jefri had stuck his head down through the hatch to shout to her.
“Okay!” She shouldn’t be down here anyway; there was nothing more she could do to help her friends.
Tami and Giske and Magda…oh, please be safe. Johanna pulled herself through the floatway, almost bumped into Jefri coming from the other direction. He grabbed her hand and hung close as they drifted toward the hatch. These last two days he hadn’t cried, but he’d lost much of the independence of the last year. Now his eyes were wide. “We’re coming down near the North Pole, by all those islands and ice.”
In the cabin beyond the hatch, their parents were strapping themselves in. Trader Arne Olsndot looked up at her and grinned. “Hi, kiddo. Have a seat. We’ll be on the ground in less than an hour.” Johanna smiled back, almost caught by his enthusiasm. Ignore the jumble of equipment, the odors of twenty days’ confinement. Daddy looked as dashing as any adventure poster. The light from the display windows glittered off the seams of his pressure suit. He was just in from outside.
Jefri pushed across the cabin, pulling Johanna behind him. He strapped into the webbing between her and their mother. Sjana Olsndot checked his restraints, then Johanna’s. “This will be interesting, Jefri. You will learn something.”
“Yes, all about ice.” He was holding Mom’s hand now.
Mom smiled. “Not today. I’m talking about the landing. This won’t be like an agrav or a ballistic.” The agrav was dead. Dad had just detached their shell from the cargo carrier. They could never have landed the whole thing on one torch.
Dad did something with the hodgepodge of controls he had softwired to his dataset. Their bodies settled into the webbing. Around them the cargo shell creaked, and the girder support for the sleep boxes groaned and popped. Something rattled and banged as it “fell” the length of the shell. Johanna guessed they were pulling about one gravity.
Jefri’s gaze went from the outside display to his mother’s face and then back. “What is it like then?” He sounded curious, but there was a little tremor in his voice. Johanna almost smiled; Jefri knew he was being diverted, and was trying to play along.
“This will be pure rocket descent, powered almost all the way. See on the middle window? That camera is looking straight down. You can actually see that we’re slowing down.” You could, too. Johanna guessed they weren’t more than a couple of hundred kilometers up. Arne Olsndot was using the rocket glued to the back end of the cargo shell to kill all their orbital velocity. There weren’t any other options. They had abandoned the cargo carrier, with its agrav and ultradrive. It had brought them far, but its control automation was failing. Some hundreds of kilometers behind them, it coasted dead along their orbit.
All they had left was the cargo shell. No wings, no agrav, no aero shielding. The shell was a hundred-tonne carton of eggs balanced on one hot torch.
Mom wasn’t describing it quite that way to Jefri, though what she said was the truth. Somehow she had Jefri seeming to forget the danger. Sjana Olsndot had been a pop writer-archaeologist at Straumli Realm, before they moved to the High Lab.
Dad cut the jet, and they were in free fall again. Johanna felt a wave of nausea; ordinarily she never got space sick, but this was different. The image of land and sea in the downward window slowly grew. There were only a few scattered clouds. The coastline was an indefinite recursion of islands and straits and inlets. Dark green spread along the coast and up the valleys, shading to black and gray in the mountains. There was snow—and probably Jefri’s ice—scattered in arcs and patches. It was all so beautiful…and they were falling straight into it!
She heard metallic banging on the cargo shell as the trim jets tipped their craft around, aligning the main jet downwards. The right-hand window showed the ground now. The torch lit again, at something like one gravity. The edge of the display darkened in a burnout halo. “Wow,” said Jefri. “It’s like an elevator, down and down and down and…” One hundred kilometers down, slow enough that aero forces wouldn’t tear them apart.
Sjana Olsndot was right; it was a novel way to descend from orbit, not a preferred method under any normal circumstances.
It was certainly not intended in the original escape plans. They were to meet with the High Lab’s frigate—and all the adults who could escape from the High Lab. And of course, that rendezvous was to be in space, an easy transfer. But the frigate was gone now, and they were on their own. Her eyes turned unwillingly to the stretch of hull beyond her parents. There was the familiar discoloration. It looked like gray fungus…growing out of the clean hull ceramic. Her parents didn’t talk about it much even now, except to shoo Jefri away from it. But Johanna had overheard them once, when they thought she and her brother were at the far end of the shell. Dad’s voice almost crying with anger. “All this for nothing!” he said softly. “We made a monster, and ran, and now we’re lost at the Bottom.” And Mom’s voice even softer: “For the thousandth time, Arne, not for nothing. We have the kids.” She waved at the roughness that spread across the wall, “And given the dreams … the directions we had…I think this was the best we could hope for. Somehow we are carrying the answer to all the evil we started.” Then Jefri had bounced loudly across the hold, proclaiming his imminent entrance, and his parents had shut up. Johanna hadn’t quite had the courage to ask them about it. There had been strange things at the High Lab, and toward the end, some quietly scary things; even people who were not quite the same.
Minutes passed. They were deep in the atmosphere now. The hull buzzed with the force of the air stream—or turbulence from the jet? But things were steady enough that Jefri was beginning to get restless. Much of the downlooking view was burned out by airglow around the torch. The rest was clearer and more detailed than anything they had seen from orbit. Johanna wondered how often a new-visited world had been landed upon with less reconnaissance than this. They had no telescopic cameras, and no ferrets.
Physically, the planet was near the human ideal— wonderful good luck after all the bad.
It was heaven compared to the airless rocks of the system that had been the prime rendezvous.
On the other hand, there was intelligent life here: From orbit, they could see roads and towns. But there was no evidence of technic civilization; there was no sign of aircraft or radio or intense power sources.
They were coming down in a thinly populated corner of the continent. With luck there would be no one to see their landing among the green valleys and the black and white peaks—and Arne Olsndot could fly the torch right to ground without fear of hurting much more than forest and grass.
The coastal islands slid past the side camera’s view. Jefri shouted, pointing. It was gone now, but she had seen it too: on one of the islands an irregular polygon of walls and shadow. It reminded her of castles from the Age of Princesses on Nyjora.
She could see individual trees now, their shadows long in slanting sunlight. The roar of the torch was as loud as anything she had ever heard; they were deep in atmosphere, and they weren’t moving away from the sound.
“…things get tricky,” Dad shouted. “And no programs to make things right.…Where to, Love?”
Mom looked back and forth between the display windows. As far as Johanna knew, they couldn’t move the Cameras or assign new ones. “…that hill, above the timber line, but…think I saw a pack of animals running away from the blast on…west side.”
“Yeah,” shouted Jefri, “wolves.” Johanna had only had a quick glimpse of moving specks.
They were in full hover now, maybe a thousand meters above the hilltops. The noise was painful, unending; further talk was impossible. They drifted slowly across the landscape, partly to reconnoiter, partly to stay out of the plume of superheated air that rose about them.
The land was more rolling than craggy, and the “grass” looked mossy. Still Arne Olsndot hesitated. The main torch was designed for velocity matching after interstellar jumps; they could hang like this for a good while. But when they did touch down, they’d better have it right. She’d heard her parents talking that one over—when Jefri was working with the coldsleep boxes and out of earshot. If there was too much water in the soil, the backsplash would be a steam cannon, punching right through the shell. Landing in trees would have some dubious pluses, maybe giving them a little cushioning and a standoff from the splash. But now they were going for direct contact. At least they could see where they were landing.
Three hundred meters. Dad dragged the torch tip through the ground cover. The soft landscape exploded. A second later their boat rocked in the column of steam. The downlooking camera died. They didn’t back off, and after a movement the battering eased; the torch had burned through whatever water table or permafrost lay below them. The cabin air grew steadily hotter.
Olsndot brought them slowly down through it, using the side cameras and the sound of the backsplash as his guides. He cut the torch. There was a scary half-second fall, then the sound of the rendezvous pylons hitting ground. They steadied, then one side groaned, giving way a little.
Silence, except for heat pinging around the hull. Dad looked at their ad hoc pressure gauge. He grinned at Mom. “No breach. I bet I could even take this baby up again!”
Copyright ©1992 by Vernor Vinge
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- Publisher : Tor Science Fiction (February 15, 1993)
- Language : English
- Mass Market Paperback : 624 pages
- ISBN-10 : 0812515285
- ISBN-13 : 978-0812515282
- Item Weight : 10.5 ounces
- Dimensions : 4.15 x 1.2 x 6.75 inches
- Best Sellers Rank: #413,470 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
- #1,947 in Hard Science Fiction (Books)
- #2,311 in First Contact Science Fiction (Books)
- #2,963 in Exploration Science Fiction
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About the author

Vernor Steffen Vinge (Listeni/ˈvɜːrnər ˈvɪndʒiː/; born October 2, 1944) is a retired San Diego State University (SDSU) Professor of Mathematics, computer scientist, and science fiction author. He is best known for his Hugo Award-winning novels and novellas A Fire Upon the Deep (1992), A Deepness in the Sky (1999), Rainbows End (2006), Fast Times at Fairmont High (2002), and The Cookie Monster (2004), as well as for his 1984 novel The Peace War and his 1993 essay "The Coming Technological Singularity", in which he argues that the creation of superhuman artificial intelligence will mark the point at which "the human era will be ended", such that no current models of reality are sufficient to predict beyond it.
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Customers find the plot exciting and dramatic, with a strong grasp of dramatic tension. They also describe the book as original, enjoyable, and well-written. Readers find the characters interesting. However, some find the pacing slow and dragged out. Opinions are mixed on entertainment, with some finding it great and satisfying, while others say it's not satisfying.
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Customers find the plot exciting and entertaining. They also appreciate the mind-boggling ideas, wonderful complex aliens, and unique twist. Readers also mention the book has a strong grasp of dramatic tension and character development. They say the book is a space opera with interesting details and plenty of dramatic action.
"...It helps tremendously that both of these stories are compelling and that they betray the peak of Vinge's ability to write complex characters...." Read more
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Customers find the book an enjoyable and tremendous read, full of concepts that amaze them at first.
"...I think that alone makes for tremendous appeal, as Vinge shows the breadth of his writing ability...." Read more
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"This is a masterpiece of a book, deservedly considered a classic...." Read more
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However, there is also a large amount of great character drama within the book. An especially interesting feature is that this book contains two parallel stories; one of the interstellar effort to rescue two children who crash landed with their parents on a planet whose inhabitants are stuck in something like the High Middle Ages, and one of the children themselves as they navigate the complex, backward alien society into which they have been thrust.
The Middle Ages aspect combined with the interstellar adventure makes this feel like a combination of a sci fi novel with a fantasy novel. I think that alone makes for tremendous appeal, as Vinge shows the breadth of his writing ability. It helps tremendously that both of these stories are compelling and that they betray the peak of Vinge's ability to write complex characters. A particular highlight for me is a dilletante character who lives on the planet in question, who in another age might be called a genius but who is instead laughed at and ridiculed because he lacks the society (and the connections) to get his outlandish ideas off the ground. It is a reminder of how geniuses can often appear nonsensical unless they live in the proper technological context, and it is also an accurate picture of the struggles of people born before their time. The character reminds me a little of Boltzmann, who was ridiculed into suicide by the scientific community, despite having the most accurate description of thermodynamics yet.
The interstellar society is very creative. It feels like a combination of cyberpunk information systems with the diversity and strangeness of David Brin's Uplift Saga aliens. Vinge manages to effortlessly blend these ideas into a rich galactic culture full of danger and adventure. If any of that appeals to you, you will really enjoy this work.
Note: there's no need to start here if you plan to read A Deepness in the Sky. The two books are independent, entirely. But you should read both, no matter the order!
First Impressions:
I finished Vernor Vinge's "A Fire Upon the Deep" and let me tell you this monster book, clocking at nearly 600 pages, does have adventure, medieval civilizations, a bit of romance and has its dark side as well. Parts of the book do drag and the author might have been in need of an editor, but overall not a bad space tale.
Basic Premise, Some Comments:
In this universe we have 'zones of thought' that are linked through a subspace network, similar to our Internet which is colloquially called the "Net of a Million Lies." Would make a great advertisement for Wikipedia and the World Wide Web of today! The book was written in the 90s and so the pattern is of the Usenet groups of that time.
The book is broken down into several areas - the release of the "Blight", a malignant force that destroys all who oppose it, a family that discovers the "Countermeasure" but crash on a planet of dog-like aliens that only communicate in groups (a "pack" can think and respond only in a group, not singly), Ravna's planet, her job at "Relay" (as a librarian) and her relationship with a human (put together from parts by "The Old One," a superior being from "The Beyond", and their adventures together.
These parts don't always fit well. Each is expanded on (such as in the dog-like alien world, "Tine's World") and that's where the story tends to drag. We get involved in the intrigue, the castles, the battles and traitors of their race. The man and woman mentioned earlier crash-land and are immediately killed by this race. The brother and sister (Jefri and Joanna) are separated and each thinks the other is dead. The warring factions take advantage of this misunderstanding and slowly leech out technology that these children may know for their own advantages.
Interest:
I did enjoy the clash between factions in this alien society and the imaginative way they built "packs" where you would take different skills from each "dog" and they would somehow think together. With the invention of radio, thanks to the humans, the Tines discovered that they could radio to each others' brains! This was interesting but never expanded upon to include the whole race, but just one pack.
Other aspects of the story: The warring factions clash near the last 100 pages of the book which I found fascinating, how each faction used the children as pawns and at one point wanting to kill them to gain advantage.
The part where each discovers that the other is alive is heartwarming but also comes with the price of a life. That was the best part of the book.
Romance: There is a bit of this, between Ravna and Pham (at least before she discovers he's not all man - oops!). Also camaraderie and loyalty between starship captains as they attempt to rescue Ravna from "the Blight." Great space battle here.
World Building and The Internet:
The author dwells too long on detail and I felt the reader spends a long, long time on the chatter of the 'Net, which can be annoying as you just want to story to move along, and the extraordinary time we spend on the Tines' World. There's not a lot of explanation of the "Beyond" and how and what that's all about - just hints of superior beings and we as humans or lesser aliens are their pawns, and only in the lower levels are we safe from them.
Finally, it's a tough book to put down and wait awhile and pick up again. You have to reread a few sections to refresh your memory on what's going on. As well, Vernor Vinge tends to make up words without explanation and leaves it up to the reader to figure out, as well as not fully explaining what's going on. For example it took quite awhile into the book before discovering that the alien "packs" communicated as groups not as individuals.
Final Thoughts:
Overall, a decent read. Set aside some time and give Vinge your full cooperation. May not be as good as the amazing space operas of the Golden Age of Science Fiction, but it is a worthy, if dragged-out read. Recommended.
Vernor Vinge's Other Novels:
The Children of the Sky
Marooned in Realtime
The Collected Stories of Vernor Vinge
A Deepness in the Sky [Sequel to "Fire."]
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Ein weiteres Visionäraspekt, das Vinge in die Liga der Großen bestätigt, ist die Problematik der Informationqualität und deren Wirkung auf die Welt. Information, Desinformation, rafinierte Manipulation ... Was stimmt denn noch? Was stimmt definitiv nicht? Kann man der Quelle vertrauen? Versteht man überhaupt noch die Mendung richtig?
Das Thema ist leider keine SciFic, sondern unser Alltag. Wenn Trump lesen könnte, glaubte man fast, dass er Vinge gelesen hat.Bei diesem Werk könnte man den Name der Kunsttechnik "Mise en abyme" aus zwei Gründen fast wortwörtlich nehmen.
1) "Abyme" bedeutet Abgrund, also "deep" in english. Die Inszenirung des Kontrasts zwischen dem "Beyond", wo eine künstliche Intellingenz eine Art Bürgerkrieg auslöst (denken Sie an Terminator, es ist sehr ähnlich) und viele Welte zerstören lässt oder "ins Feuer setzt", und dem "Slow Zone", wo nur noch unter der Lichtgeschwindigkeit eine Reise denkbar ist und von "oben" wie einen geheimnisvollen Abgrund wahrgenommen wird, ist eine litterale "Mise en abyme".
2) Ja, die anderen Rezensionen haben recht. Vinge Kreativität ist sehr beeindruckend (Beispiel: Spezies wie die Rudel von Wolfen, die ein Vernetzes Wesen durch die Synchronisierung ihrer Gehirne gestalten) und sein Buch hat die Dimension eines Space Operas. Und ja, sie haben auch recht: Vinge geht oft nicht ins Detail. Wir bekommen nur Bruchteile der Themen mit. Als würden wir den Trailer einer Oper zuschauen. Insofern spürt der Leser die potenzielle Tiefe der erschaffenen Welt, doch ohne dorthin zugelangen. Auch wird es dem Leser schwindelig, sich "den Abgrund" (oder die Tiefe) dieser Geschichte vorzustellen, ohne hinrunter zu fallen.
Eine echte Mise en Abyme (nach der Definition) könnte man so sehen:
Eine Künstliche Intelligenz produziert künstliche Informationen
Für Beispiele von Mise en Abyme empfehle ich "Ubik" oder "The Man in the high Castle" von P.K Dick zu lesen. Es gibt extrem viel Werke, die die Technik nutzen. Die Wikipedia Artikel listen nur einen Burchteil davon auf.
In meinem Buch (3939044466) finden Sie sowohl eine technichen Singularität als auch eine Vorführung in der Technik der Mise en Abyme. Und eine Desinformation fehlt im Inventar nicht.

