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Flock of Dodos: The Evolution-Intelligent Design Circus
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| Contributor | Flock of Dodos, Dr. Randy Olson |
| Language | English |
| Runtime | 1 hour and 25 minutes |
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In a light-hearted take on the culture wars, FLOCK OF DODOS tweaks egos and pokes fun at both sides in the evolution vs. intelligent design debate. Evolutionary biologist and filmmaker Dr. Randy Olson rides along with jargon-impaired scientists and jargon-rebranding intelligent designers as they engage in the comic theatrics that erupt wherever science and religion clash over the origins of life. From the shadowy, well-funded headquarters of the pro-intelligent design Discovery Institute in Seattle to the rarefied talk of Olson s science buddies around a late-night poker table, FLOCK OF DODOS lends a thoughtfully critical ear to the wonderful personalities and passions driving the Darwin wars.
By explaining the quirks of evolution with colorful visual aides while respectfully listening to people of faith, FLOCK OF DODOS is intelligently designed for popular appeal (VARIETY). And if you find it difficult to determine which side of the issue is the bigger flock of dodos, Olson offers up his 83-year-old mother, Muffy Moose, as the ultimate head dodo who provides the Rodney King perspective of can't we all just get along? This enlightened, fun film is a must-see for anyone who cares about the issues of our time.
DVD Features: Top Ten Questions; Shared Visions: A Comic Debate; Pulled Punches: Controversial Content; Vetoed Comedy: Humorous Deleted Scenes; Panel Discussion Highlights; Howard Hughes Medical Institute Clips; Animation Outtakes; Filmmaker Biography
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- Is Discontinued By Manufacturer : No
- MPAA rating : PG (Parental Guidance Suggested)
- Product Dimensions : 0.7 x 7.5 x 5.4 inches; 4 Ounces
- Item model number : 2293003
- Director : Dr. Randy Olson
- Media Format : Multiple Formats, Color, NTSC
- Run time : 1 hour and 25 minutes
- Release date : September 10, 2007
- Actors : Flock of Dodos
- Language : English (Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo), Unqualified
- Studio : Docurama
- ASIN : B000PATZKQ
- Number of discs : 1
- Best Sellers Rank: #244,037 in Movies & TV (See Top 100 in Movies & TV)
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- #15,804 in Special Interests (Movies & TV)
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This is definitely a documentary for people who are tired of the Michael Moore philosophy of documentaries. Randy Olson really doesn't barge in on people or make them feel uncomfortable. I think, for that reason, this documentary will speak to more people and more sides of the argument. Whereas a Michael Moore approach can come off as "rude" to some people. As most people will undoubtedly notice that when you're being belligerent most people tend to either shut down or oppose you even more vehemently. At least with Randy Olson's documentary it doesn't present an overbearing feel and gives the Intelligent Design believers their fair shake to explain what they believe. I think Olson expertly hits the nail on the head with what the real problem is in this kind of a "debate". (I put debate in quotes, because it's technically not.)
I think there are a few reasons why this stems even further than what is touched here in the documentary. From a scientific perspective evolution is a fact. However, it's listed as a "theory of evolution", and I think a major reason why non-scientists say to themselves "well it might not be true" is because most people don't know what it really takes for something to even be logged in as a theory in a science book. I think this is where science has essentially lost contact with humanity in some respects, and it's quite clear people can't be responsible to learn it on their own. So now all these people who think they understand what "theory" means from a literary perspective and not a scientific perspective walk into School Boards across the country and want to change science... for after all, it is just a theory. Not exactly, you need to go from a hypothesis to a theory. To get to the level of something being a theory it needs to be peer reviewed, and most importantly duplicated by multiple people. It's the ability to duplicate the research and come out with the SAME results that makes it a theory. It's a theory because it CAN undergo refinement. Like Charles Darwin's initial theory for survival of the fittest. It's been over a hundred years since that was proposed and just about everything in the "Origin of Species" has undergone refinement and changed. So to essentially say that this is where evolutionary thinking is, is basically saying that science is stuck in the 1800's, which it, most assuredly, is not. It's the same principle as the "laws" in the fields of physics. Does the general population really think that Newton's law of gravitation hasn't been refined? If they do then they are not keeping up because when Einstein came along it needed refinement... and that was just over fifty years ago. This is the problem, people have lost touch with the scientific community and I think that a greater deal of communication is in order.
The part Olson really nailed was that for the most part scientists are really bad at communicating this to the general public. Olson does take a very light hearted approach to all this, after all he is a scientist as well, so he really can't berate them too much. Though for a scientist, I think he communicates quite well with the public and he's the kind of guy science needs to help educate the greater populace about what's going on.
On the other side, he spoke to quite a few people on the intelligent design camp. I think he gave them a fair enough shake in letting them throw their ideas out there. He didn't badger them or tell them they were wrong, he merely asked questions on the subject. It seemed almost unanimous that when it came time to question the theory of evolution they felt the side of the evolution was rude or belligerent. This doesn't help communicate the idea properly. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the nicest guy in the world, but even I have enough wit to adjust my delivery if it's just not being heard. Olson specifically covered the issue in the school board in Kansas (since it's his home area) and I was quite shocked that this was even considered. I'm not one to say you can't believe what you want, but if you're going to start playing something off as scientific rigor that isn't, then, yes, I do have an issue with that. If I decide to have kids, I don't want them to grow up in a world where it is acceptable to stop asking questions of the world around them and summarily decide that, "oh, I don't get it. God must be the answer." I don't think that would be acceptable on both sides, and I know that's not the point of their argument, but it could be an adverse affect if this policy is brought in to play. And where does it really stop... when we finally end up in a world that is portrayed in "Fahrenheit 451" where people aren't allowed to question anything anymore?
From what I can perceive another problem that has lasted for centuries is that for people to clamor about their beliefs and not let science be performed correctly. One of the scientists in the poker game brought up the Catholic Church suppressing Galileo because it didn't support their way of thinking and Galileo was observing a Copernican model. I think a lot of scientists know about these kinds of historical references, far more than the general public, and for their profession to be in jeopardy because of faith seems to be like they're reliving something that already happened in some senses. So I can see why scientists would get quite annoyed when someone purporting a "God in the gaps" theory comes along and tells them they don't have their facts straight. I'm really not surprised at the rude backlash against the intelligent design theory. I think the people in the intelligent design camp should probably start trying to look at it from the perspective of the scientists to understand why they're being rude. Scientists probably can't even believe this is being debated; I for one really can't either, but scientists also need to look at it from the perspective of non-scientists as well to really explain their points. What shocks me even more is that at some point someone could make this a lesson in the classroom.
I think this documentary really helps elevate people's awareness to the major problems with this issue, especially since it shouldn't be. This should spark some peoples concern and generate good discussions, because that's exactly what this does. Unfortunately for the Intelligent Design side, on this DVD it seems their arguments are really very weak. He even spoke to their greatest spokesman; Dr. Behe (whose book I haven't read yet, but now am more prompted to read). A lot of the people arguing on the side of intelligent design don't really understand the major intricacies of evolution and that was made very clear. Olson even tore down one of the books they point to in order to reference the problems in evolution: "Icons of Evolution." This book apparently takes the perspective that kids are still learning science the same way it was taught in the 1800's. This just isn't accurate. This is also coming from a guy who says that "Darwinism is anti-Christian" in his book "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Darwinism and Intelligent Design." This is just a stupid statement, I'm sorry, but I have to call it that because that's what it is.
However, I cannot berate the Intelligent Design group too harshly because in some cases they ask absolutely excellent questions of science. Such as when they ask for a specific thing to be explained, like flagellum bacteria. These points will simply send some scientist to go and figure it out, which is great for science and some scientist did go out and do that. I do think science should be questioned and I think everyone benefits in the end when tough questions are asked. However, to say science should stop researching and just say "god's the reason this happened" is a faulty argument. It honestly seems to be implied that this is what people that support intelligent design would want. Dr. Behe has already convinced himself that he's right, and he's convinced a lot of others as well, but that doesn't mean scientists should just give up. Galileo gave up after being summarily threatened, I don't want to go back to a world like that... a world that is flat and happens to revolve around the sun that is. These arguments have been going on since the Middle Ages; they seriously need to be put to rest.
The 10 questions part of the DVD which is about another 80 minutes is an excellent addition. I personally would have liked to watch the full two presentations on this because they were very intriguing. Namely that one of the major arguments against Intelligent Design is that it's not actually science. If it was science and peer reviewed then authors like Jonathan Wells would have the support of the scientific community, and that what Dr. Behe says is factually correct. The 10 questions also prompted me to go and purchase books by Michael Ruse because he seemed to explain things in a very interesting and excellent way. They also have some deleted scenes where Dr. Behe says he's not so concerned about what is taught in public schools because his kids don't go to public school, this is from the man who typically speaks at the school board hearings to convince the school to teach intelligent design. Olson mentioned he could have made a big deal out of it, but decided not to. There is also an excellent humorous skit debate with comedians poking fun at the circus this country has turned into over this subject. I found it to be pretty smart and funny, other reviewers clearly haven't.
All in all, this is a great product. This sums up both sides excellently and really delves into what is and what is not well researched. In the end Olson does take the side of evolution and states that he wasn't really convinced by the intelligent design arguments, because they didn't have that much weight behind them. I, for one, was tired of hearing Dr. Behe's Mt Rushmore argument towards the end of the documentary because it is not a good argument and shouldn't even be used to argue against science. For one it is documented that mankind built it, so to bring that into some estranged hypothetical scenario that God might have done something makes no sense. Not to mention the rocks look like humans from OUR history. If you really wanted to use an argument like that, use something like the face that was seen on Mars years ago because we have no record of humans building a structure that looks like that on another planet. Either way it's a rather preposterous argument. I highly recommend this DVD, it really makes you think about where the education system is heading and what we can possibly do about it.
- Kansas School Board member as quoted in "Flock of Dodos"
I am not sure if it is possible to write a "spoiler" to a documentary film. But if it is, I warn you that I am about to do it, as the conclusion of Flock of Dodos is quite necessary to reviewing this film. If you don't want me to spoil it for you, don't read on.
The film "Flock of Dodo's" is one scientist's (now film-maker's) journey to explore what the big deal is behind the intelligent design/evolution controversey. The conclusion? It is a controversey not of sceintists versus sceintists, but scientists versus lawyers and advertisers. The director tells us that his purpose was to find out more about the controversey in order to see if there was anything to it, but the more he found out, the more problems he had.
This is a very cool film that takes something of the form of a road-trip primarily into, and back out of, Kansas (where one of the more famous challenges to evolution in school curricula took place). We meet quite a few faces from all sides. On the evolution side, we meet several scientists from various universities and two former school board members. On the ID side, we meet Michael Behe (one of ID's 'pioneers'), John Calvert (lawyer making his living defending ID), and even attempt, unsuccessfully, to meet some folk from the Discovery Institute.
Through all of this, however, the film's director notices a big problem. Even though evolution is quite universally accepted and regarded as well corroborated fact in the scientific community, scientists and academics are very bad at being spokespersons for evolution in the way people like John Calvery and Michael Behe are spokespersons for ID. At one point, the director even wonders to himself, after noting Behe's status as one of the 'faces' of ID, who Behe's equivalent is in the evolution world: who are the public spokespersons? The answer, he finds, is that there aren't really any. (He does not mention people like Richard Dawkins, but if he did, it would be sad, as Dawkins has more-and-more become a perfect target for accusations of evolutionary zeolotry and irreligion).
Another great thing about this film is that we meet a wide variety of people and begin to see all of them as quite human - none of these people are evil, though many of them are convinced that the other side is. (And if both sides are nice folk convinced that the other side is evil, then the question comes up: do they really know eachother at all, or do they just scream in eachother's direction?)
My personal favorite by way of highlights was the director's confrontation of John Calvert, who asserts that Haeckel's drawings are a fraud widely used in evolution textbooks. Were Haeckel's drawings a fraid? Yes, and you don't have to get this info from - as Calvert did - Jonathan Wells' inflamatory book "Icons of Evolution." Are these drawings widely reproduced in textbooks? The answer is no, and the confrontation leading us to this conclusion is absolutely hilarious. I won't spoil it; you have to see it for yourself!
This is a good film. At times, it seems almost Michael Moore-ish but, unlike Moore's films, there really isn't a whole lot of UNSUBSTANTIATED spin here. You don't get the impression, as one does with Moore's films, that he is ambushing people, or that he is using rhetorical trickery (like taking quotes out of context, or grandstanding.) Behe has as much, if not more, say than many of the scientists in the film.
If you are concerned about evolution, intelligent design, and the fuure of sceince education, this is an outsanding film to watch. The director shows us why the issue is as contentious as it is important, and why - more importantly - evolutionists may be winning in the halls of the academe but losing in the sidwalks of Everytown, USA. He reminds us that if evolution hopes to win the day, it must roll up its sleeves and accept the fact that public relations is what we must do.
Entertaining. Interesting. Informative.
